Auto Screen Raising - Fact or Fiction

Started by Stolichnaya, May 27, 2016, 09:16:50 AM

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Stolichnaya

YAY!!  someone agrees!!  thank you ..

the things that do need attention are really quite no-brainer things.  Peg height ... on a tourer !  why would a pillion want their knees by their ears, and hard Ally too. just a small bit of spirited riding and a quick nail it in 2nd saw my wifes feet off the pegs.  and shes a seasoned biker/pillion with 30 years on a bike.  she said they were small, slippy and way too high

Screen, something that at least offers wind protection to some degree when its down.  Up it looks like a sheet on a washing line and ruins the looks of the bike. 

and one ive never been able to fathom, why remove the cubby hole that was on the tank on 2007/8/9 !!!!!  and what numpty thought "i know , lets just put a bit of cheap plastic there that serves no purpose whatsoever!!  That's an Improvement!!  where do i put my Fob?  (no suggestions please!) and why oh why oh why isn't there a box / cubby hole on the right fairing panel ! 

ah well...  there are tons of positives too...  i know i seem down on it..  supposed I'm just pissed off as I'm supposed to be going to Barcelona for the GP and setting off Thursday but with the French cracking off...  I'm not sure i wil be able to get fuel
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Charlie747

It always struck me as strange that for a bike with such potential that the majority of us have had to modify to make it right for us !

Yep lowered rear foot pegs with FJ pegs Gel seat etc etc.........

My thoughts are with you ref the screen.  I tend to ride with my visor 3/4 open (it's a fresh air thing) and have experienced blurred vision while reading motorway road signs due to the vibration fron airflow buffeting off the screen. For a bike that is design in a wind tunnel its a major flaw.

If you find the screen answer please let us all into the secret  :punk:

O.C.

maybe there isn't a one off answer that suits us all Charlie,  we all differ in size and the way we sit on a bike, plus some riders prefer to ride in a near silent bubble, I'm not one of them  :smiley:   
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Charlie747

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Quote from: O.C. on May 28, 2016, 06:52:34 AM
maybe there isn't a one off answer that suits us all Charlie,  we all differ in size and the way we sit on a bike, plus some riders prefer to ride in a near silent bubble, I'm not one of them  :smiley:   

I've found when making progress that I trim the airflow to hit the top of my shoulders and give my head a chance of stability.

I admit disappointment that I imagined I would sit in a serine bubble of tranquility as I found years ago on an ST1100 but have accepted the GTR as a pratical Soft tuned ZZR with all day potential.

I would say that the lower fairing is far better than the K16 for me

But I do empherthise with Stolichnaya regarding wind noise and buffeting of the head.  I just hope he finds a solution after investing time and money that if not perfect is a compromise he can live with   :yes:

Stolichnaya

Morning guys
I have found a solution as said. Well of sorts
The Calsci XL is excellent when fully up. By far the best of the 4 I've tried and I wouldn't want anything bigger for fear of it looking rediculous. My beef is that even after all this when its down (and any screen I've tried in the down position) is utterly rubbish past 50.
It's not a silent bubble I'm after. If I were I'd not be riding bikes!  My experience of the GTR before the XL was a contingency of ibuprofen upon getting home. The wind noise in my lid with this particular bike was awful. I went as far as buying a different lid and trying all 3 I have.
A touring bike should be a pleasurable place to be. And in the main it is. The noise and head shaking due to buffeting was poor.
I may even try and see if I can fit the Laminar Lip to the Calsci!! 
My Gtr is great. I can fully see its merits and really do like it... Apart from this one pain in the bum issue which is resolved in the main. I have a solution!  But I don't like riding with the screen up all the time. It's s trade off.
What's odd for me is that I don't get the same issue on my Gsx14 with no fairing
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Charlie747

All I can assume is that with your monster muscle bike your head is hitting a clean airflow that enables it to make a cleaner quiter passage than when it meets the turbulence from the screen on the GTR.

I always remember the hype ref ZZR1100 being designed in a wind tunnel.  It's a pity that they did not design a better airflow management for the GTR upper fairing on the all day missile  :popcorn:

What helmet have you gone from too ?


Stolichnaya

I've had an HJC RPHA-10 for years. It's a brilliant Lid. Comfy, quiet and just right for me. It's old tho so after 2 hours in a shop trying lots of helmets I went for a Scorpion Exo 510 Air

It's in the cheaper range than I'd usually buy but it's turning out to be a good lid. Lots of nice touches and spec but the drawback is the side vision isn't the best. It's a bit letterbox if you know what I mean.
But it does have pre cut holes for speakers. Drop down dark visor/shades. Pinlock as std. Lots of vents that do work. It's comfy and also an ingenious pump up method to make it snug.
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Quote from: Stolichnaya on May 28, 2016, 09:02:09 AM
I've had an HJC RPHA-10 for years. It's a brilliant Lid. Comfy, quiet and just right for me. It's old tho so after 2 hours in a shop trying lots of helmets I went for a Scorpion Exo 510 Air

It's in the cheaper range than I'd usually buy but it's turning out to be a good lid. Lots of nice touches and spec but the drawback is the side vision isn't the best. It's a bit letterbox if you know what I mean.
But it does have pre cut holes for speakers. Drop down dark visor/shades. Pinlock as std. Lots of vents that do work. It's comfy and also an ingenious pump up method to make it snug.

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virginiajim

I was experimenting today with my setup.  If I bend my head downward it gets really quiet.  Unfortunately, I can't see the road so I'll stick with the noise and use earplugs.
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Charlie747

Quote from: virginiajim on May 28, 2016, 10:23:02 PM
I was experimenting today with my setup.  If I bend my head downward it gets really quiet.  Unfortunately, I can't see the road so I'll stick with the noise and use earplugs.

Have we all got it wrong and we need to fit lower bars not risers ?

The short screen on the K16 is about the same as the GTR for noise and turbulence  :no:


snowy

Quote from: virginiajim on May 28, 2016, 10:23:02 PM
I was experimenting today with my setup.  If I bend my head downward it gets really quiet.  Unfortunately, I can't see the road so I'll stick with the noise and use earplugs.


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virginiajim

I've got the adjustable ones so I can adjust them.  I'll have to see how that goes.  I've got the original screen, which is quite short and does flow air but I'm thinking the helmet has more to do with this than the screen itself.  I have a Scorpion 1100, I think.
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GTRpilot

My pennies worth regarding this, I've got a Schuberth C3 pro flip front helmet and a Cee Baileys screen fitted, I always ride with ear plugs. I enjoy riding the bike with the screen fully down, but on longer trips, i.e. motorway runs, I raise it just enough to see over the top, I find it quiet, not whisper quiet 'cause I'm on a motorbike doing, ahem, 70MPH  :whistling: but quiet enough to listen to music, directions or pillion on the sat nag. Fully up, it is whisper quiet and I can lift the flip and talk to my pillion if need be, so I guess I'm happy.
I have had two Blackbird's and the search for the correct screen on that was like looking for the holy grail.
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My gtr, 2009, has an auto adjusting screen.  When I decide the height needs to change my thumb automaticaly moves the switch lol