Auto Screen Raising - Fact or Fiction

[Stolichnaya]

Hello People!! in GTR Land

I was at a friends the other day who has the 2008 GTR and he was saying he'd like a newer version for various reasons..  one of which was that you can set the screen to automatically raise at a desired speed !!  now this would be brilliant !!

is this true and anyone done this??  or is it an old wives tale

cheers
Stoli

[PRD]

Old wives tale I think

[Charlie farley]

The stereo volume in my car goes up and down with the speed if that helps.
But I don't know much about tumble dryers.

[Stolichnaya]

my stereo does too..  quite what that has to do with my screen I'm a tad lost.. 

i thought it was just folklore but the guy i was talking to said he'd seen a vid on youtube !!

ahh well..  would be nice tho....

[O.C.]

Not true, however on a previous GTR I owned it was possible to pre-set the screen to raise to a position when turning on the ignition, I dont think it is possible with the current latest model, interestingly the original GTRs had a warning sticker on the screen advising against adjusting whilst on the move

[Stolichnaya]

i jumped on this as i'd love mine to auto raise at say 60mph.  the noise and wind and stuff on a GTR is (in my opinion) one of the worst i have experienced on any bike ive owned.  its simply awful and i was near on selling the thing.  (queue the stalwarts defending the GTR...)

only in fully up mode does the screen offer anything like the reduced noise and wind blast it should

any before anyone starts hammering me with grief...  I'm on my 4th different screen and 1 new Lid trying to reduce it!

honestly, i nearly sold the damn thing and went back to my GSX14 for touring

[virginiajim]

Hello People!! in GTR Land

I was at a friends the other day who has the 2008 GTR and he was saying he'd like a newer version for various reasons..  one of which was that you can set the screen to automatically raise at a desired speed !!  now this would be brilliant !!

is this true and anyone done this??  or is it an old wives tale

cheers
Stoli

Sorry, it doesn't raise the screen as the speed increases.  What screens have you tried?

[Stolichnaya]

that's a shame..  and i better tell the other guy who thinks it does before he buys a new model thinking it does !!!

ive tried....
The Standard one - utterly useless and gave me raging headaches.  i even bought a new helmet thinking it was the shape of my Lid !!  never for one minute thought a purpose built touring bike would have such a rubbish screen - let alone an updated model of the bike !

Then bought an MRA Screen with flippy up bit. Only when i got it home and offered it up to the Std one did i see it was actually smaller!  didn't hold out much hope and yep - for me useless 

Then a standard screen with Laminar Lip - this was better when extended and was happy but - for me it was wobbling/moving about a bit at cruise speeds.  i did like it and it did the job but put off was the constant wobble and the two pieces of plastic were not the best to look throu and gave a distorted view

Then a Calsci XL - have this on now and while on lowest setting its useless at anything over 50/60, when its up its very good.  doesn't suffer from wobble.  just looks like a ships sail!!  but it does the job

(hence my 2 screens for sale in The Market)

I'm supposed to be going to the Catalan GP next week (subject  to being able to buy fuel in France) - i very nearly decided to take my GSX14 as to be honest i don't get the wind/noise form that anywhere near like the GTR.  as i say i nearly sold the damn thing as i bought it specifically for touring and for me its not as good as my GSX14.  I know its all down to preference and stuff so please..  before i get mobbed with "its the best bike for touring"....  it isn't.  its noisy, loud, the foot pegs are too high for the rider (even with short-arse legs like mine) and the passenger pegs are a joke... oh and its a tad snatch off/on throttle

apart form that I'm happy !!!!

[O.C.]

Did you test ride your GTR before purchasing it ? I would have expected these issues to have been apparent during a proper test ride

I do agree with you that the standard screen, even the one fitted on the latest model, is not great and is somewhat noisy, but I don't mind some noise, I am on a motorbike after all, I have just fitted a Laminar Lip and will have to see how it performs on my bike.

I'm sorry your bike doesn't meet your expectations, and no, I'm not going to have  a 'go' at you or even suggest that you change for a K1600         

I do hope that you get something sorted to your satisfaction before your trip     

[Stolichnaya]

you might find with the Lip on, when its fully extended that at 80+it wobbles a bit and obstructs vision a bit.  i found it a tad off-putting but these things are all down to personal stuff.  what suits me may be opposite for another...

as above i have the Calsci XL and when up its fine

I'm not saying it doesn't meet my expectations and please don't think I'm all down on it.. there has to be the ability to highlight issues and thoughts on personal views on here as NO bike is perfect.  ive been riding for 35+ years so have some experience to draw from.  all I'm hinting is that for a dedicated purpose built tourer - attention to detail like pillion pegs being made of Ally and no rubbers, being far far too high and even in my opinion the rider pegs are too high by 2cm or so....  plus the absolute uselessness of the Std screen youd have thought these would have been better on a bike of this type.

ive had to spend a lot of money on it getting these things ironed out

now i have lower rear pegs, with rubbers and the Calsci its more of a bike i WANT to use.  before i wanted to use my GSX14 instead.

[virginiajim]

Having a test ride is no experience than riding it all day.  Most things don't show up until you ride it a bit.

My advice before you buy anything else (screens) is to meet up with Kwacker group and exchange screens.  Everything affects how a screen works for you such as your lean angle on the bike, different bars, helmet, and your torso height just to name a few.

Personally I've settled on a CB Ultra Tour Dome for most riding.  I still go back to the shorty stock 08 screen depending on the heat and weather conditions.

Oh, I also use ear plugs so the noise doesn't bother me as much.

[O.C.]

My latest model has rubber covers on the pillion pegs as standard ....just saying   

[Stolichnaya]

only taken how many years to add that !!!! 

don't get me wrong here..  its a great bike and this thread has got way way off topic but, as with all bikes they have shortcomings.  the trouble is....  the things that should be there on Bikes as they are designed for a specific job are often woefully under spec or just not right for the job they are to be used for.

why have Ally only pegs and high up ones at that?  it just doesn't make sense.  and the test riders in the design and build stage must have had raging wind noise when they rode it screen down !!

unless they  were very short in body and legs!!

[virginiajim]

Well, think about that..   Where do these bikes come from and where are they designed?  Smaller stature on average I would say as compared to us.

[PRD]

Stoli raises some very valid points there. I'm always amazed at how much has to be altered
Regardless of manufacturer to make bike fit for purpose. Imagine cars with one seat suits all or you had to change the windshield. Pillions often are not catered for properly- too high pegs, uncomfortable seats.  We need to get the manufacturers to change or they will carry on doing it.