NEW - H2 SX Tourer

[Robbieben]

Had a good look at the SX myself on Sunday at the NEC, lovely looking bike, perfect all rounder for a Solo Rider, a bit short in the seating area to offer real world long distance comfort for two, no provision for a top box.

I would own one, but for touring with the wife as I do I'll need to keep the GTR for many years to come unless a suitable alternative is brought out by someone, GTR and Pan European are both victims of E4 emissions regulations, the Honda VFR again is too small and has no tank range, will the FJR survive, currently meets the emission regulations and I imagine sales will now increase with less competition in the marketplace.

[Rynglieder]

Had a good look at the SX myself on Sunday at the NEC, lovely looking bike, perfect all rounder for a Solo Rider, a bit short in the seating area to offer real world long distance comfort for two, no provision for a top box.

I would own one, but for touring with the wife as I do I'll need to keep the GTR for many years to come unless a suitable alternative is brought out by someone, GTR and Pan European are both victims of E4 emissions regulations, the Honda VFR again is too small and has no tank range, will the FJR survive, currently meets the emission regulations and I imagine sales will now increase with less competition in the marketplace.

Sorry to stray off topic, but can anyone explain why the GTR won't conform to EU4 when the ZZR which shares the same engine does and has been rolled through to the 2018 range? The only significant thing I can think of is the exhaust system and IMO a twin pipe system shared with or based around the ZZR would improve the GTR's looks.

[Robbieben]

Sorry to stray off topic, but can anyone explain why the GTR won't conform to EU4 when the ZZR which shares the same engine does and has been rolled through to the 2018 range? The only significant thing I can think of is the exhaust system and IMO a twin pipe system shared with or based around the ZZR would improve the GTR's looks.

Though the GTR and ZZR share the same engine capacity the engines themselves are very different, GTR has variable valve timing etc etc. I wouldn't mind if they fitted the ZZR engine into the GTR, I've owned a 2012 ZZR and it was fantastic, I'm sure Kawasaki could easily fit it to the GTR.

[Burchy]

The GTR is based on the older ZZR with a 1352 engine.  Newer ZZRs have a 1441 engine

[pross]

Was there on sun at show saw new sx , looked ok ,  if it had been a gtr with supercharger on and lots of extras then it would have had more wow factor ,,, thought that the show was poor ,seems to be less to look at ever year ,

I agree 100% I thought it was very poor I didn't go last year as two years ago I thought it was poor.
I gave them the benefit of doubt this year but alas it was worse.
Not even the coach in the bike parking area this year if required to leave your helmets and gear.
Unless you are in the market for cheap shoddy gear I won't be bothering next year I can see as much at various dealers just have to travel on the bike no hardship

[O.C.]

I agree 100% I thought it was very poor I didn't go last year as two years ago I thought it was poor.
I gave them the benefit of doubt this year but alas it was worse.
Not even the coach in the bike parking area this year if required to leave your helmets and gear.
Unless you are in the market for cheap shoddy gear I won't be bothering next year I can see as much at various dealers just have to travel on the bike no hardship

I haven't been to the show for a good few years now, but I'm amazed that according to what you say the major manufacturers/retailers of  accessories and clothing aren't there any more, is this really the case nowadays ?      

[Robbieben]

I haven't been to the show for a good few years now, but I'm amazed that according to what you say the major manufacturers/retailers of  accessories and clothing aren't there any more, is this really the case nowadays ?      

NEC has to have been the worst it has ever been since it moved there, it started off using 6 halls of the NEC, this year barely filled 3. Major manufacturers were their, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Ducati, KTM, lots of cheap gear stands selling gear most experienced riders wouldn't wear. Yes there was some good stuff to see and buy but I'd seen everything there was to see in under 3 hours. £20 ticket, £25 plus to get there makes it an expensive 3 hours out.... I won't be going for a while, I'd rather go to the London show, far better.

[tapps]

the last time i went to the NEC was 4 years ago,to be honest it wasn't that busy then,i wanted some decent gear,i was looking at helmet's & clothing there was nothing there apart from dealers showing off there latest offering's.it wasn't that good then, my mate asked me what i was doing last week end, he wanted to go to the show,I SIMPLY COULDN'T BE BOTHERED,i'd rather go to the BMF in PETERBOROUGH.another thing that put's me off is the time of year the show is held, one would like to think that they would hold this in the summer.

[PRD]

It's easier just to buy a magazine with show report and cheaper too! Haven't been for years.

[Lonewolf]

I was planning to go on the Saturday, I even bought the rail tickets but then after seeing some video footage of the event and how mediocre it looked, I simply couldn't be bothered.

[doebag]

The BMF no longer run the show at Peter Bog Horror [ ]
They pulled out about three years ago when the showground put their prices up yet again.

MCN now put on a similar show, but BMF are running smaller local shows around the country.

IMO the Peterborough show was going down hill, I went regularly as part of a club stand,, but I would not have paid to enter for the last few years.

[pross]

I haven't been to the show for a good few years now, but I'm amazed that according to what you say the major manufacturers/retailers of  accessories and clothing aren't there any more, is this really the case nowadays ?      

A couple of the quality gear stands like  halvarssons had gear there to try on but not purchase.
Aria /  shoie etc was there helmet city oxford. I asked a salesman on the helmet city stand about the new Schuberth c4 he gave me a load of waffle in his answer which I questioned he put the helmet back on the shelf and walked away pmsl.

As you said mr Wolf a waist of £25 I'm glad I was on the bike or you could add another £12 parking.
I bought a coffee while there nothing special a flat white £2.65    I nearly told them where to shove it a small bottle of coke in the shops normally £1to £1.20 they charged £2.20 
There was a stall doing pull pork cobs ( rolls or baps to you lot  ) I was very tempted but I hadn't took a credit card with me for the purchase 

[Burchy]

Its funny how different people view these things, isn't it?
I went with my nipper and our mate, so 3 in a car.  prebooked parking was £10 - split 3 ways.  Not too bad

OAP ticket was £12, one std ticket ws £17 (I think) and 1 freebie (Thank you Kawasaki)

Had a really good day.  Hospitality from Kawasaki meant that there was somewhere to sit down plus free teas and coffees and biscuits. The Club Kawasaki membership meant that we got 25% off the clothing

We had a good day out

[O.C.]

Its funny how different people view these things, isn't it?
I went with my nipper and our mate, so 3 in a car.  prebooked parking was £10 - split 3 ways.  Not too bad

OAP ticket was £12, one std ticket ws £17 (I think) and 1 freebie (Thank you Kawasaki)

Had a really good day.  Hospitality from Kawasaki meant that there was somewhere to sit down plus free teas and coffees and biscuits. The Club Kawasaki membership meant that we got 25% off the clothing

We had a good day out

Its good to hear another side to the story       

Some pals from here in N.I visited a few days ago and enjoyed their day too, the only issue they experienced was a broken down rail link from the airport and resulting queues for coach transfers
 

[Stolichnaya]

Well. Since starting this post as I was so excited to see the SX I have to say what a disappointment!!  It's ugly, the front is too sharp, the single headlight looks like a cyclops. The panniers are small and crazily... no top box!!  A tourer with small capacity!!  From memory it's also chain drive I think.
Backwards steps Mr Kawasaki.
The Tank is also a very odd shape and if you look at the press photos just take a closer look.. passenger is very small on purpose as it's cramped plus they are rediculously close together.

It's like little thought has gone into a serious Euro mile muncher for 2 with kit.
I'll be on a XZR14 as next bike then.

Thought the event was ok. Just that. Ok. I went with my brother who'd love to be in a bike so he was cooing at lots. 5hrs we had a wander.
Stunned at the lack of being able to pick up a deal. I managed to bag a Rad Cover for £50 but that was only after 10 mins haggling from £70!!
Also a Pin Lock for my RPHA-10 ST. Only 3 stands had one and one wanted £35!! Paid £20 in the end

I'm amazed at these guys spending thousands and thousands on a stand and they refuse to claw anything back by selling kit.

Sigh. Grab a bargain days over.

But I DO want the Triumph Bobber. Just to look at!!