KIPASS issues

[virginiajim]

 

[PaulB]

It happened to me.....twice, early on.  Knock on wood, it hasn't happened again.  I was able to get by it by cursing it quite severely and hitting it with my fist.  I couldn't find any rocks and didn't have a hammer.   Since then I've carried a small silver hammer for just in case...have never needed it.  I'm not sure at all that lubrication of any sort helps it as it can get gummy after time.  Every once in awhile I give it a spritz with contact cleaner at about the 9 o'clock position to blow any dirt out.  Kwackers upgraded the spring in the ignition switch at some point on the later bikes.  Can't tell you when that happened (10+?).  You can't just get this spring as it's part of the ignition assembly, unfortunately. 

One of our members, Brian, sells a wiring kit to get you by it and back on the road if it should happen.  I also have that kit installed.  It's not too expensive.

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=6976.0

If you really want the bike (OP) then buy it.  Whilst it's been discussed until the Kaws come home, I wouldn't let that deter you.

Same here. It has happened to me once, 2500 miles away from home (and a long way from "civilisation"). After spending the best part of 30 minutes trying to get the cooker knob to the "ON" position (using ever increasing forms of persuasion) a hefty blow from a disc-lock finally jarred the micro-switch and brought the system to life. After that I rode all the way home leaving it in the "ON" position and disconnected the battery earth-lead whenever I wanted to "secure" the bike (overnight for example). Reconnecting the lead would instantly bring the ignition system back to life.

After that, I also fitted the wiring kit Jim mentioned. Pressure-washing the grit (I can only assume that's what it was) from around the ignition micro-switch area and I haven't had a problem since.

As others have mentioned, people only tend to rant on the internet when things go wrong; it's easy to forget the thousands+ of others for whom there really hasn't been any problems whatsoever.

So... Yeah. Just buy it

Cheers

Paul B.

[mikeyw64]

Ok so I understand you have to have the fob within 5 ft (approx) of the bike in order for the KiPass to activate.

Question:

What happens if the bike is started and either it moves further away from the fob or the fob moves further away from the bike?

[shaggs147]

Ok so I understand you have to have the fob within 5 ft (approx) of the bike in order for the KiPass to activate.

Question:

What happens if the bike is started and either it moves further away from the fob or the fob moves further away from the bike?

You've fallen off    :-\

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[virginiajim]

That and nothing happens.  You'll eventually get a message that says the fob is not within range, but it's usually too late by that time to ever find it again.  The bike will not cut off, however, once stopped it will not start again.

[mikeyw64]

That and nothing happens.  You'll eventually get a message that says the fob is not within range, but it's usually too late by that time to ever find it again.  The bike will not cut off, however, once stopped it will not start again.

Interesting that it doesnt turn off. I would have thought it would as a security measure in the (admittedly unlikely I would think) event that someone rides off on your pride and joy whilst you're sat having a coffee.

Hmmm I can think of another use for that Bypass loom the chap on the other forum has come up with.

Extend the leads to a switch inside the glovebox and it can act as a hidden immobiliser that can be quickly set.

[O.C.]

That and nothing happens.  You'll eventually get a message that says the fob is not within range, but it's usually too late by that time to ever find it again.  The bike will not cut off, however, once stopped it will not start again.

Exactly correct, and  I am speaking from experience       

[virginiajim]

Interesting that it doesnt turn off. I would have thought it would as a security measure in the (admittedly unlikely I would think) event that someone rides off on your pride and joy whilst you're sat having a coffee.

Hmmm I can think of another use for that Bypass loom the chap on the other forum has come up with.

Extend the leads to a switch inside the glovebox and it can act as a hidden immobiliser that can be quickly set.

They can't ride off if you have the fob on your person.  I would never ever leave the fob on the bike without me.

[Wookie]

Wook duz .. but leaves a elf an safety notice stating
THE KEYS ARE UNDER THE WIFE ! AND SHE BITES 

[mikeyw64]

They can't ride off if you have the fob on your person.  I would never ever leave the fob on the bike without me.

Ok I'm confused, two other occupants suggest you can ride off and leave the fob behind.

Maybe one to test once I pick her up :)

[virginiajim]

You need to have the fob in close proximity to the bike to start it.  Once it falls off the seat or where ever you left lying about on the bike or loose on your person you're up the creek as the bike goes down the road.  I know some that leave it on the bike in one of the compartments so someone could come up to the bike and use the stove knob to start it....very bad practice in my opinion.

[O.C.]

i left my fob attached to keys in my top box lock, the bike started ok as the fob was in close proximity, the keys and fob fell out of the top box whilst i was riding home, I didnt notice the message on my dash telling me the fob was out of proximity . I got home, stopped the bike and obviously it wouldnt re start as the fob was now miles and miles away somewhere .

It cost me about £250 for a new fob and re programming.

Moral, keep your fob safely secured about your person or in a jacket pocket

[mikeyw64]

wonder if some clever person could figure out how to trigger an audible warning when the out of proximity message flashes up?

[mikeyw64]

You need to have the fob in close proximity to the bike to start it.  Once it falls off the seat or where ever you left lying about on the bike or loose on your person you're up the creek as the bike goes down the road.  I know some that leave it on the bike in one of the compartments so someone could come up to the bike and use the stove knob to start it....very bad practice in my opinion.

Yup I do agree that's bad practice.


Mythoughts were more around leaving it on a table and riding away or the slim chance someone could start whilst you were sat near /behind a window for example. (the latter being probably more theoretical I admit)

[nightrider]

The key fob Goes on the inside of your bike jacket , there is no reason to take it out , leave it there and you will not have any problems, get another key cut for the panniers and petrol cap , I wish more vehicles had keyless ,