Just suppose 2

[zedmeister]

You can fit top box and panniers (together) on the latest SX Zed   

Are you quite sure OC, you can fit a top box without panniers but not with the panniers Mr K doesn't offer a rack to fit both although if you know otherwise i stand corrected.

Is the sx a bit of a buzy engine ,I read in one of the road tests how at 95 it was revving at 6500 revs , where the gtr would just be ticking over , one of its best points of the gtr is the smooth engine, I had a z650 many years ago and that engine always felt like you needed 4 more gears to quiet the motor down ,   

Yes the engine is buzzy and you are always searching for another gear in top as it is short geared ( easy fix is to put a bigger front sprocket on )  but believe me there is plenty of grunt on tap anytime without the need to drastically gear down every time.

[O.C.]

I asked the question about panniers and top box when talking to my mate at Kawasaki dealership and he told me that they could be used together.

Might be worth double checking, as I knew that this wasn't possible with the pre 2017 model

[virginiajim]

How about stepping down in size. Makes sense economically and performance is good enough. Versys 650 GT.

You know what they say, it's not the size it's how you use it.  But really nothing beats large displacement.  Getting on a smaller bike would feel like a toy, at least it has in the past.

[Macskwak]

        a bike that is often overlooked, ~~ but as they say "a good big 'un will always beat a good little 'un"  I've never ridden the Versys 650     

Mac, Picking up on your point about weather protection, it surprised me how good the protection against the elements was on the Yamaha Super Tenere I owned was, in fact it was better than I expected.

Yea oc big bike and big wrap around tank helps no end eh? 

[Macskwak]

You know what they say, it's not the size it's how you use it.  But really nothing beats large displacement.  Getting on a smaller bike would feel like a toy, at least it has in the past.

Haha its funny jim my daughters boyfriend just picked up a cbr 600 and i cocked my leg over it and couldnt believe how light it was. Just swinging it from side to side made me laugh. It does feel like a toy now lol

[Wookie]

Slightly off topic but ....
When considering gearing ... this is an excellent solution....
Going 1 tooth up on the front = a decrease of 2 teeth smaller on the rear which can = lack of pull especially in top  and hammering the clutch pulling away fully loaded and the speedo is a mile out...
SOLUTION....
GO 1 tooth front and 1 tooth bigger on the rear this equates to a overall gearing of 1 tooth smaller on the final drive .
It removes the 10 % deficit set at factory on the speedo .. and still gives good pull through out the 6 cogs and easier on the clutch .
Now back on topic
The GTR will return as the Japanese HATE loosing face to competitors ...so as long as honda yamaha and bmw are producing tourers the big K will.
Besides the sales in USA  are impressive and they seem to be the BIG influence on what manufacturers to UPGRADE machines for elekky fripperies ...
So .. sit tight ... we're in for a supreme in 12 months or so 
Ya like that O.C    off topic then back on it ..who sez men canna multitask. .. 

[Wookie]

P.S
Besides can you see a proud brand name making a bike (as good as it is ) being a FLAG SHIP BIKE ?
Nah me neither 

[PRD]

Time for Mz to enter the equation I think.

[O.C.]

Time for Mz to enter the equation I think.

   

Maybe these too    

http://www.mashmotorcycles.co.uk       

[PRD]

Definitely. Nice and simple. No tps or unnecessary frills to worry about.

[Macskwak]

Then why not a c90 stepthrough and a rucksack lol. Very simple no clutch and 1500 miles to the thimble lol. Loved my old c90 😃

[virginiajim]

Ya like that O.C    off topic then back on it ..who sez men canna multitask. .. 

My wife and she's spot on..

[PRD]

Then why not a c90 stepthrough and a rucksack lol. Very simple no clutch and 1500 miles to the thimble lol. Loved my old c90 😃

but I do feel a more simple approacH is needed.

[Wookie]

My wife and she's spot on..

Jim that's only coz she has convinced you that you can't 
WIves are more cunning than wolves and as sneaky as a fox 

[Wookie]

  but I do feel a more simple approacH is needed.

Why not make it real simple and get to use ya spanners a LOT .. get a Hardley Dangerous