Advice required

[Debs]

I decided to do some Maintenance on baby today.

I had not cleaned the brake pads for more than 6 months, so thought I would get that done. All went well except for one part 

When I was torquing the right hand side lower brake pad pin in, it didn't stop. The pin went through and pushed the back collar out making it impossible to torque up. I don't know if it's my torque wrench that's no good or the collar was already cracked.

The only option I have to is buy a replacement. Is the ZZR 1400 brake calliper the same as the GTR?

I have found a few on fleabay. Maybe this one will be ok??

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191365533972?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I will have to get the dealer to fit it.

[BigAlan]

Hi Debs

If my old memory serves me right when my mate had a ZZR we compared the brake calipers and they were the same, his was a 2013 model and mine is a 2011.

As for torquing up the bolts in the case of those pesky pins I tend to do it by feel rather then torque, I copper slip the threads tighten them up, tights tight to tights f****d it.

I reckon with your ability you could change the calipers easy enough yourself, you could gently clamp the flexible pipe closed, swop the calipers and put your pads back in and then fit it and let the clamp off, you might need a helper to bleed the fluid but if you can fit a cruise control you can change a caliper.

Have fun.
Alan

[nightrider]

They are the same part number if you look on Cornwall Kawasaki parts viewer ,at £300 a side , could a engineering firm fix it , it only holds the pad in place does not need much to do that ,

[Debs]

Thank you Alan.. i do use copper slip on the thread just gutted it's broken.

I don't know nightrider... A bolt with a locking nut would do it but that would look untidy. It's a cast part so don't think it an be repaired. 

[virginiajim]

In looking up various things about this, I think I would stay away from pinching the brake line if it's either steel braided or the original hose and it's been more than several years on the bike.  Hidden damage to the internal tubing might result.   Yes, I know some have been pinching lines for the last 10,000 years without issue but to me it isn't worth the risk.  Definitely don't use a tool that isn't designed for pinching hoses, but will do in a .......wait for it........pinch.  Up to you of course.  They do make 'brake hose plugs' (search on that) which may work just as well.

https://www.otctools.com/products/line-plug-fluid-stoppers-6-pk

The above can be had from Amazon US, not sure about the UK, but I'm sure that there is something similar.  I think I may invest in these myself.

[O.C.]

I'm with Jim on this one     

There's a variety of appliances that will help in this respect, so I've just copied the relevant page from fleabay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xline+plug+fluid+stoppers.TRS0&_nkw=line+plug+fluid+stoppers&_sacat=0

[nightrider]

When I swapped the caliphers on my zzr11 for gixer  1000 ones , I just undo the bolt on the old calliper  and put it straight on to the new one , it never lost any  fluid bar a small amount , then to bleed is easy as you only need to pump a few times to rid of any air at the bottom , just have everything to hand for a fast change , 

[virginiajim]

Don't forget to put new sealing washers on...

[Debs]

I've bought a used calliper from a 2012 ZZR and will get it fitted by the dealer on Tuesday 

[Debs]

Been in to the dealer today who fitted my 2nd hand brake calliper..

I am now a happy bunny.. 

Just a few scratches on it to touch up that's all.. 

[doebag]

I know this is after the event, but most torque figures are for clean dry threads, and lubricant or anti-seize will affect the readings.

[Debs]

Thank you doebag.. Even the dealer didn't torque them.. I have learnt a lesson 

[BigAlan]

Nipped up is what I call it, like wheel nuts, I remember a mate winding his wheel nuts up so tight I reckon he would strip the thread, I asked him how tight did he want them as nipped up plus a bit is enough for anything.

Feel, that's another good way of knowing something is tight enough, comes with old age. 😄

Alan