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Started by 2kwacks, December 09, 2013, 01:04:00 PM

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2kwacks

went for a nice ride out yesterday around north wales :smiley: called into a Kawasaki dealers for brew and a look around :rolleyes: well, you know what the salesmen are like :whistling: he made a beeline for me and my mate hoping that we would buy a bike :smiley: sorry mate I said, I'm very happy with what I've got at the moment :smiley: then we got talking about the present GTR1400 and he told me that models from 2012 onwards now have replaceable batteries in the tyre sensors is this true :undecided: it won't please the stealers :no: but the owners will be chuffed to bits :smiley: all they need to do now is splash out £2.00 on batteries for front and rear and replace them every other tyre change and never have another low battery warning ever again :clap: don't know why Kawasaki didn't do this with the previous models :hammer:
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MGvalerio

Avranno pensato!!! :undecided: Batteria saldata non darà mai falsi contatti. :whistling:


Have though!!!  :undecided:soldered battery will never give false contacts. :whistling:


MGvalerio.

2kwacks

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Quote from: MGvalerio on December 09, 2013, 01:30:01 PM
Avranno pensato!!! :undecided: Batteria saldata non darà mai falsi contatti. :whistling:


Have though!!!  :undecided:soldered battery will never give false contacts. :whistling:


MGvalerio.
neither will batteries that are correctly installed :smiley: got to be easier and a dam sight cheaper than paying just short of £300 for a new sensor and having it re-programmed and the labour for removing the wheel and tyre and re-fitting and that's per wheel :hammer: Kawasaki have got their own interests at heart here :yes: quite a few batteries have failed a lot earlier than Kawasaki expected and have become victims of there own doing :laugh: by needing to replace the sensor which is expensive for them :grin: now they only need to replace the batteries which are consumable items and most likely only carry a one year warranty :whistling: I'm just  :shocked: it's took them so long for the penny to drop :mfr_lol: 
getting on now...  but not as old as Rog or Geoff

Lonewolf

Dave, sounds like you need to call Kawasaki and have that confirmed, let us all know what they say won't you? Who pays for the tyre removing if the battery fails?

virginiajim

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According to what we (in the US) have heard, the dealers are replacing the current sensors (LDL France) with sensors made in the US that have batteries that aren't easily replaceable.  I've already replaced my rear wheel sensor with a new battery and am waiting to replace the front one...

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=15369.msg195063#msg195063
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Boomer

I heard from a friend who works at a Kwak dealers that the new sensors are smaller, lighter, and the batteries last over 10 years.
However, they are more expensive if you do need to replace them.
I'm sure someone will figure out how to replace the battery in them when it becomes necessary in a few years time.
George "Boomer" Garratt
Wickford, UK
http://www.gtr1000.com

2kwacks

Quote from: The Wolf on December 09, 2013, 08:06:27 PM
Dave, sounds like you need to call Kawasaki and have that confirmed, let us all know what they say won't you? Who pays for the tyre removing if the battery fails?
I've been told this by a few dealers now so most likely is true :smiley: suppose it makes sense for Kawasaki just to replace batteries of course this would require removing the wheel and tyre, but batteries are a consumables so will only carry 12 month warranty and Kawasaki know how many have failed with-in 12 months which is only a few if none. Kawasaki have thought, lets make the sensor "none sealed unit" with push in batteries and we can class it as a consumable item if any do fail with-in 12 months we will replace the batteries at a fraction of the cost of the sensor, reprograming with dealer labour costs after that it's down to the customer but instead of £300 a wheel it would be a few quid for batteries and £10.00 to remove the wheel and re-fit :yes: infact.. the dealer may even remove the wheel and re-fit as a gesture of goodwill for the customer :smiley: it's a no brainer really :yes: and who ever the engineer was who never thought of this in the first place...   sack the monkey :mfr_lol:
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virginiajim

The easier replacement of batteries story surfaced over here sometime back.  It's now morphed into non-replaceable battery units.
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2kwacks

Quote from: virginiajim on December 10, 2013, 11:28:25 AM
The easier replacement of batteries story surfaced over here sometime back.  It's now morphed into non-replaceable battery units.
It's now morphed into non-replaceable battery units....  well if that is the case, it a :cry: ing shame. As far as I'm concerned none replaceable tyre sensor batteries are bloody ridiculous :hammer: batteries are consumable items and who can say they will last one, two, or 3 years :undecided: so if you buy a GTR that's 3 years old or less than 3 years old where the owner as done his own servicing "like I do" then the dealer will most likely say.. sorry but under the warranty conditions the bike must be serviced by a dealer :hammer: I think the GTR1400 is the best tourer on the market at the moment :smiley: but having sealed tyre sensor units when its just as easy to make them so they just unclip and to push 2 new batteries in place with out the need to reprogram is taking the piss :yes: but as I've already stated in another post of mine, Kawasaki may have gone down the "none sealed tyre sensor" way from 2012 onwards :clap:
getting on now...  but not as old as Rog or Geoff

Lonewolf

I've had one of my batteries in the TPS exchanged under warranty as Kawasaki said the batteries should last between 3 & 5 years, mine lasted two and a half years approximately. However you have to factor in how often the bike is started which apparently reflects on the use of the TPS battery in getting up to the correct pressure, I didn't really give a monkeys as long as I didn't have to lay the £300 I wasn't that bothered.

virginiajim

My RAV4 doesn't use sensors...instead it uses the ABS toothed ring to sense differences in the speed of wheel rotation.  Only problem is you have to figure out which tire has the leak.  It does work fairly decently and does not use batteries.  I don't see why they couldn't use that unless Toyota has locked up the patent in the coding.
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