GTR Trike - up for sale again?

[BigAlan]

I might be thick but why would any sane person transfer money to anybody else BEFORE seeing the bike? Or anything for sale for that matter when it's a high value? And especially someone with a zero rating.

I have been on eBay since 1999 and have a full 100% record and always check out others feedback.

Alan

[Richard]

I might be thick but why would any sane person transfer money to anybody else BEFORE seeing the bike? Or anything for sale for that matter when it's a high value? And especially someone with a zero rating.

I have been on eBay since 1999 and have a full 100% record and always check out others feedback.

Alan

Pass, but as someone said for people to do this it must work sometimes?

£2500.00 for a £9000.00+ trike, tempting.......

The first thing I ever sold on ebay was a 1920s electricity meter, made by Dr Aeron, my feedback was below 10, I was expecting £50 or something, it went for over £3000.00 to a collector in the USA, paid by bank transfer, lots of trust involved.

[Lonewolf]

Bigal, the scam works because the seller usually offers something at an unbelievably low price. They will get loads of messages sometimes outside eBay, telephone or email etc. They will agree to sell the bike many times and to many people making much money in the process and then just disappear. I got fleeced a month or two back on eBay but I managed to get my money back, I suggested to eBay they report the seller to the Police but they weren't interested. My seller fleeced a number of people in the space of a couple of weeks. 

[routemaster]

Hi

I have just checked and "This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing."

Kind regards

Steve

[Lonewolf]

Hi

I have just checked and "This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing."

Kind regards

Steve

What, like he suddenly realised he didn't actually have the trike. 

[mecki]

Yep, its gone.

I wonder if ebay contacted him, or the police, or he just bottled it or ?

Looks like Deb's warning scared him off. 

[patrick]

Damm... just when i thought a trike might be the answer to my aching knee!!   

[Richard]

So, the story so far: -

Reported to Ebay - waste of time. 1hr, 5 different people and they don't care. Because the scammer used the last owners pictures, if I contacted him and got him to complain they would do something because the scammer stole the pictures!
Reported to police - took notes and said they would get back to me, next day advised me to report it to "actionfraud police"
Actionfraud police - fill in an online form with all the info.
From talking to an agent on the live chat help they will use the info to compile statistics, but wont actually do anything.

So as I type some poor sucker may be sending the scammer £££ for a trike that will never turn up, and no one wants to do anything about it.

And now the same seller is selling a Linde Forklift, this has got to be another scam....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Forklift-Linde-H30-T-/251303403801?pt=UK_Lifting_Moving_Equipment&hash=item3a82d9a119#ht_490wt_1170

[Lonewolf]

I've just sent him the below message...



Hi, I see you are selling this forklift truck, you recently had for sale a trike which I know for a fact you did not own or were not even in possession of as I know the owner and even the legal, current owner of the trike contacted you and in respect of that you have been reported to the Police who are currently working with eBay to obtain your details and speak to you in relation to that fraud. This sale has also been reported to eBay in order to protect any other potential victims and if it discovered that you do not actually own this forklift truck then that is another matter which no doubt will be investigated by the Police.


Lets see what happens shall we?

[Richard]

    

[mecki]

Lets see what happens shall we?

Well, most likely nothing.
He'll just open a new account under a different name.
Fleabay collect their commission and give a  .
And the police? 

[Lonewolf]

mecki, I think if you save the seller as a favourite seller and they then change their user name ebay automatically notifies you. So you can follow them for all eternity. If my message encourages them to withdraw their ad and prevent the current bidder who I think has bid £2k from parting with their hard earned cash, then I'll consider that a small victory regardless of the bigger picture.

[O.C.]

The fact that this scammer has a big fat '0' as feedback will no doubt slow down any potential bidders...it certaianly would me.

As Mecki says e-bay don't give a 

[mecki]

mecki, I think if you save the seller as a favourite seller and they then change their user name ebay automatically notifies you. So you can follow them for all eternity. If my message encourages them to withdraw their ad and prevent the current bidder who I think has bid £2k from parting with their hard earned cash, then I'll consider that a small victory regardless of the bigger picture.

If the scammer is stupid enough to use his real name you might be right, but most likely he is using a stolen or fake identity anyway.
So what stops him from opening a new account under a different name if he doesn't have a dozen or more already?
Nothing! 

Yeez Steve, and you do what for a living?   

[Lonewolf]

Mecki, as you don't have an eBay account I will not waste time explaining the logistics of registering with eBay especially where you expect to receive payment for goods via PayPal. Needless to say there are many ways to ID someone on eBay just as there are on You Tube and such like.