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Started by PCPeteUK, July 01, 2013, 05:37:24 PM

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doebag

Quote from: mecki on July 02, 2013, 01:04:47 PM

Of course ECO mode is turned on most of the time.


Out of interest, does any one here NOT have ECO mode on all the time. After the first mile or two, when I then remember to turn it on, my ECO mode is on all the time.
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flatfour

I've never turned ECO mode on, I like the way that the bike rides as is. Average over 3,000 + miles 47.7 mpg on super unleaded, that's good enough for me!

PCPeteUK

 you may have mentioned the key point.....  super unleaded. I only use normal unleaded
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Debs

Quote from: doebag on July 02, 2013, 03:13:03 PM
Out of interest, does any one here NOT have ECO mode on all the time. After the first mile or two, when I then remember to turn it on, my ECO mode is on all the time.

I don't have that lovely option on my 2009  :no:

Lonewolf

I cant see the point of using super unleaded and wasting your money, two GTR's later and having always used normal unleaded the bike is still running just fine and dandy.

shaggs147

Yep, just the normal unleaded for me, and switch the eco mode on when I hit the motorway. However, I do turn the eco mode off when around town as the bike doesn't seem to like the leaner map then. Usually get 50+ mpg that way.

coman37

Quote from: Debs on July 02, 2013, 09:28:09 PM
I don't have that lovely option on my 2009  :no:
Surely you could bolt it on somewhere Debs :mfr_lol:

Coman

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flatfour

I use super unleaded to improve tank range (the higher the octane rating of a fuel, the slower the burn). I don't use the "ECO" mode because, as I said I like the way that the bike runs as is. I also have a further concern however, in that I suspect that "ECO" mode could rely on the burn of a charge that, rather than using fuel to cool the valves etc. relies upon gas temperature falling because a very weak mixture is used. This is usually referred to as operating the engine "beyond peak EGT" (exhaust gas temperature).
In piston engined aircraft, the technique of weakening the mixture beyond maximum efficiency for a burn (peak EGT or just below peak EGT) is used solely to extend range and relies upon low power settings to both achieve this and avoid engine damage. Its use is not encouraged because ultimately, it results in stresses to engine components beyond those seen in the normal operating cycle and can result in premature wear or failure.
I could be completely wrong in suspecting that the same technique is used for "ECO" mode, but if its use is expected to be the norm rather than for stretching range to its limit, why not make it the default setting on startup, rather than something that has to be positively selected?

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doebag

Quote from: Debs on July 02, 2013, 09:28:09 PM
I don't have that lovely option on my 2009  :no:

Thats torn it, I've upset Debs now.................................................

Actually I did not realise the earlier models did not have ECO mode.

Friend of mine swears by super unleaded. The few pence more is offset by better mpg so he reckons.
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stoketim

Maybe that's why I can't upgrade to a newer model spending to much on fuel  saying. That the old girl does exactly what's needed. The GTR's not to bad either  :mfr_lol:
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