Lights up the rear, Sh*ts me pants!

[KeVstrom]

 
I thought the TRAC was meant to stop this!? Just coming off the RAB and throttled up, the back wheel lights up, and revs shoot up! The road wasnt particularly dirty nor was it wet and i had done 10 miles by this stage so the tyre was warm.

Suppose it could have been worse. See the screen moving side to side, theres a hint!
http://youtu.be/6Jwg1_W5Tng

[Ros]

YEP!! There's evidence right there. you can see the orange light in the reflection on the screen



Very exciting

[KeVstrom]

Yeah i noticed that on the playback but not at the time, was busy holding my sphincter muscle 

[Lonewolf]

The traction control is just a feature that may help prevent a brief loss of control of the vehicle in certain circumstances a bit like ABS may help prevent the wheels locking up but will actually increase the braking/stopping distance.


It looks like your bike started to slip at about 45-55 mph and yet you then accelerated up to about 80-90 unless my eyes are playing tricks on me.


I'd personally have been thinking about what had just caused the slip and even slowing down or stopping to inspect the tyre and make sure there wasn't a defect with it as the road looked clear of debris and dry from what I could see on the video. But that's just me and the way I've been taught to ride.

[pistole]

- in the wet , its easy to get the rear to slide.

- with or without the KTRC.

- but with KTRC , you can just maintain the throttle and let the computers sort it out for you.

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[KeVstrom]

I had just washed down the bike and did spin the rear wheel while cleaning. If anything maybe the rear tyre isnt scrub in as much on the shoulders. When i look back at the footage, im leaned over a bit to the left coming off the rab then as i apply the throttle it just goes. Speed wise around the rab maybe 20mph but after that i was looking ahead and the bike does just go so i wouldnt like to guess. I do remember what i topped out at cause i was still clenching my butt cheeks!

[routemaster]

Hi

Unless you had just come out of garage with a brand new rear tyre then the shoulders would be scrubbed in - the main purpose of 'scrubbing in' is to remove any remaining mould wax etc and to get used to the tyres.

If the traction control was on it is very difficult to spin the rear when applying power - all other things being equal ie a good road surface. My suspicion would have been road surface and whether there was something (ie spillage, gravel, worn road surface etc) that caused the tyre to lose grip and slide. If the rear tyre was spinning then the traction control should have cut in almost immediately and reduced the power until such time as the rear stopped spinning.

I have found in the past on a few occassions like that when a bike has started to slide around it is best to ease right off on the throttle, as the bike will tend to right itself and its easier to control.

Kind regards

Steve

[Winston Smith]

Nah, Nail it and spin that rear up.....

[KeVstrom]

Hi

Unless you had just come out of garage with a brand new rear tyre then the shoulders would be scrubbed in - the main purpose of 'scrubbing in' is to remove any remaining mould wax etc and to get used to the tyres.

If the traction control was on it is very difficult to spin the rear when applying power - all other things being equal ie a good road surface. My suspicion would have been road surface and whether there was something (ie spillage, gravel, worn road surface etc) that caused the tyre to lose grip and slide. If the rear tyre was spinning then the traction control should have cut in almost immediately and reduced the power until such time as the rear stopped spinning.

I have found in the past on a few occassions like that when a bike has started to slide around it is best to ease right off on the throttle, as the bike will tend to right itself and its easier to control.

Kind regards

Steve

I was gonna ask, but i assumed...... the traction is ON as default, ive never touched the switch or even know how to adjust the settings. From what ive (others) have seen on the vid, the orange KTRC light is flashing on the gauge so it is kicking in. I just didnt expect it to snake nor rev that high up the rev range as it was slipping. I too like you would have assumed the traction would have kicked in before it could rev that high.
TBH the instruction are like broken english in the owners manual, i cant figure it out so if anyone could care to explain the buttin/function that would be great.

[Burchy]

There's still an awful lot of gravel and rubbish around after the last gritting exercise and I wouldn't be surprised if you went over some loose stuff.  Still, not too much of a drama and the bike sorted itdself out OK.  Mustard mit I quite like it when a bike squirms under power

[KeVstrom]

True, could have been a lot worse so you learn, you live, you be cautious next time.

[pistole]

Mustard mit I quite like it when a bike squirms under power

- yeah , same here too.

- across large painted road-markings in the wet , can get the rear to step out completely in a straight line with just the throttle and then just wait for the KTRC to catch it.

- its fun without the risk of a highside (so far ... )

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[Boomer]

All Traction Control systems take time to act especially when it comes to a the momentum of a 1400cc engine full of whirring cogs and crankshafts and flywheels.
They are not a guarantee of traction, just a system to take over after the rear has begun to slide but before you get far enough out that a highside is a possibility.
Without the K-Trak you would have probably done a very impressive drift up the road before your built in traction control kicked in (it's called a brain)
Or, you may have highsided into something solid and unforgiving.

[keith]

YEP!! There's evidence right there. you can see the orange light in the reflection on the screen



Very exciting      i maybe wrong but it looks like you were coming from whitley bay way,onto the coast road towards newcastle,you have just came off the roundabout,this is as you know an extremely busy road,i have spun the wheels on my van a before  on that roundabout, i put it down to diesel on the road surface!!