Pulling the flies??

[Bryn]

Is anyone else following the C14 thread over on ADVrider?

this mod has been mentioned concerning releasing 'the power of the beast'

Reads as follows:








It will make more difference than the pipe ever will.

Guide:

1. remove the little black filler pieces on the top sides of the gas tank.
2. Remove center plastic piece on gas tank
3. remove bolts holding down the rear of the gas tank
4. tilt tank forward (a friend or a block of wood can support it.)
5. remove the two plates below the tank that lead into the airbox
6. Remove flies. 2 JIS screws per fly
7. Reverse order to button it back up.

8. Profit and wheelie!


This is vague, but self explanatory once you're into it.




DO IT!

[Lonewolf]

There's a step by step guide on here with pictures of how to do the mod which kwikasfuki put on ages ago.
Have a look for it, it's probably been on at least a year plus.

[Bryn]

 Sounds good , but what flies are we pulling. 

[Debs]

This topic has completely confuddled me.

[BigAlan]

Butterflies, the secondary set which Mr K has included on your bike, some people pull them out along with a remap of the ECU and reckon it unleashes more BHP, from my point of view what I have as standard is plenty enough for my use but I can see the logic.

Alan

[tommytool]

Doesn't affect me but won't this invalidate Kawasaki 2/4 year warranties.

I'd need a frontal lobotomy before I'd require any more power anyway!

[BigAlan]

Basically you can do what you like with your bike after all its yours, if something went wrong with your bike and you claimed then should Mr K have reason to think that what you had done was the cause of the claim I suspect they might play the "that's your fault" but on the other hand many have done it with no problems.

Me, staying as it is.

Alan

[O.C.]

Basically you can do what you like with your bike after all its yours, if something went wrong with your bike and you claimed then should Mr K have reason to think that what you had done was the cause of the claim I suspect they might play the "that's your fault" but on the other hand many have done it with no problems.

Me, staying as it is.

Alan

+1 

[Boomer]

Removing the Secondary Butterflies (Flies) will add a little bit to top end power but we're talking 2 or 3 Bhp on top of the factory 135 (at the rear wheel).
HOWEVER, what it will do is increase the low RPM torque by up to 25lbft in the 2500-4000rpm band.
If yer interested check out the US based http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php forum and search for "Flies"
Alternatively you can get yer ECU reprogrammed to have a similar effect without removing the Flies. Search for Guhl.

If you want more power, buy a ZZR1400.
If you don't fit on a ZZR1400 search that forum for the word Turbo.

[mecki]

Of course removing the flies is not recommended on the MK2 model unless you want to disable traction control permanently. 

[PIGINAWIG]

I'm staying 'standard' too - like he says - if you want more power - get a Busa or a ZZR.....

......However, 25lb torque is pretty neat.  Mine spins up as it is in shite weather, so the extra 25lb torque will just ripple the tarmac. Im ooooot !

[Kwikasfuki]

Removing the flies gives you a fair amount of brown pants moments (and that's whilst removing them, after removing them its wise to carry spare pants)

[100milesaway]

I think I will keep mine as mr Kawasaki intended, old blokes like me ( I'm 64 ya know?) dont need any more go than it left the factory with.

[Bryn]

Think the first thing I may give a try is a re-map .... I know a friendly wizard nearby with a full dyno set up... and he seems to work wonders with about any bike he looks at ......

I've put a lot of business his way so he'll look after me I think   

I seem to have a little hesitation in first gear after about 1500 rpm in certain situations... and if he can give me a slug of extra torque that'd be great  ( not bothered about any more speed.... it's quite fast enough 

[lord vader]

I would highly recommend taking the secondary butterflies out, its the best mod i have done on my A9F and the previous A8F i had. The low down power is much better, great for overtaking especially when fully loaded and two up, not as good as my gen 2 hayabusa  but well worth doing and easy to do. Try it and feel the differance