EU anti tampering law

[viper]

does anyone know much about this new / proposed law. Im reading all sorts of scare  stories on the net about not being able to put different branded tyres on your bike to not being able to change the oil.
if the law is about stopping young riders from de-restrcting their bikes or stopping bikes from being mapped for more power then fair enough, but stopping home servicing is ridiculous

[mecki]

That's most likely what they are - scare stories. 
Even now you get into trouble if you modify your bike.
Not with the police but with your insurance company if you make a claim.
So practically you are riding a bike without insurance and thus already breaking the law.

[Winston Smith]

Cobblers Mecki.  Of course you are insured.  The only possible liability would be in the event of a claim being as a result of a modification there would be a lesser payout. 

If, for example, you knowingly fitted race tyres and there was an incident directly attributed to them then there would be a substantial decrease in the payout.

In respect of the 'new' law from EU it would be applicable to new vehicles from a set date. 

There is already legislation in existence to stop non standard exhaust systems being fitted but it is never applied.

[mecki]

Cobblers Mecki.  Of course you are insured.  The only possible liability would be in the event of a claim being as a result of a modification there would be a lesser payout. 
If, for example, you knowingly fitted race tyres and there was an incident directly attributed to them then there would be a substantial decrease in the payout.

Well, I heard other stories where insurance companies refused to pay because of modifications regardless if that had anything to do with the incident or not.
If they insured let's say a 100hp bike and you tune it up to 120hp then it is no longer the bike they insured - Simples!
So why should they pay if you have an accident if they can get away with it?
AFAIK they even do that if your bike isn't roadworthy or has no warrant of fitness.

And even in a country like Germany where they had stringent anti tempering laws for decades you can mount any exhaust you like as long as it is type approved for the bike.
Yes, they even specify the brand and size of tyres, but just like the legislation you stated above, it is hardly ever enforced.

[Winston Smith]

Don't confuse insurance and enforcement.

There's a lot of bollox spread around about the whole issue. 

It sells MCN! 

[tommytool]

Anyone here affiliated to MAG who can help here? I asked directly my old insurance company what the effect of my extensive but legal mods to my R1 would do to my insurance if I didn't list them in spite of him not being able to categorise them in the quote.
He said it would invalidate my policy. So what was the flipping point?

I then went to e-bike where I could categorise them and was confident I was covered.

( I wouldn't use them now though- like most they hike the policy after a couple of years)

[O.C.]

I have always declared any modifications to my insurers, as they aren't performance enhancing, therefoe they know exactly what my bike is like

Winny is right so much of this     is just scaremongering.

I can just see a restriction about using different brand tyres being introduced/enforced on cars....PAH, the different tyre companies would go ballistic