Hi Viz clothing .... Opinions

[trousersnake01]

I really cant understand why anyone would not where a hi vi top , those of you that suffer from the vanity and wont be as bright as possible so idiots see you, I think you are mad.

300 dead on the road every month, like a jumbo jet crashing every month.

Thats without the seriously injured.

You need to give yourself the best chance possible.

Those who depend on you deserve that at least.

[Cartman]

If you want to stop Hi Viz, join MAG or the BMF or get off ya arse and write to ya MP.

I have and I do, as has been said lets get people wearing proper protection first. Eductation not regulation!

[Cartman]

I really cant understand why anyone would not where a hi vi top , those of you that suffer from the vanity and wont be as bright as possible so idiots see you, I think you are mad.

300 dead on the road every month, like a jumbo jet crashing every month.

Thats without the seriously injured.

You need to give yourself the best chance possible.

Those who depend on you deserve that at least.

What a truly idiotic post! If you really think that hi-vis will save you from a fatal accident you shouldn't be out on your own. Riding skill, observation, correct kit, advanced riding instruction are all more important to staying safe than hi-vis. Using the same logic should we paint all cars hi-viz yellow? Thus reducing road accidents to nil?

I dress according to the conditions and ride the same way, it's served me well for 25 years and counting.

If you think biking is that dangerous just stop and let the rest of us enjoy it. Attitudes like this are why we are walking blindly in to a spoon fed, totally risk averse society. You accept compulsory hi-vis then it'll be airbag vests, then what? stabilisers, power restrictions, type approval and then the end of biking.

[Lonewolf]

Cartman, perhaps you didn't understand Mr Trousersnake's post. Nobody is saying wear a high viz and you wont get hit, it's about giving yourself a better chance out there. Why does anyone undergo further bike training? I'll go out on a limb and say it's usually to further their skills and improve their chances of survival on the busy roads. The same can be said for making yourself more visible.

Anyway I'm more than happy to wear a high viz and if others think I look like a tit then I guess I look like a tit. But at least I'll be a bright tit in my high viz. 

[Cartman]

Cartman, perhaps you didn't understand Mr Trousersnake's post. Nobody is saying wear a high viz and you wont get hit, it's about giving yourself a better chance out there. Why does anyone undergo further bike training? I'll go out on a limb and say it's usually to further their skills and improve their chances of survival on the busy roads. The same can be said for making yourself more visible.

Anyway I'm more than happy to wear a high viz and if others think I look like a tit then I guess I look like a tit. But at least I'll be a bright tit in my high viz. 

Clearly making a link between hi-vis and road deaths, no proven connection, no evidence that hi-vis even reduces risk. Consider that if hi-vis was made compulsory then, as the law stands today, I could ride with helmet, a pair of shorts, and a hi-vis vest and be legal  no one wants to see that


Agree with advanced training, done quite a bit, but the onus is on you to apply your skills.

Freedom of choice is key, I wear it when I choose and deem appropriate, and freedom of choice should always be core to any society.

[pistole]

Freedom of choice is key, I wear it when I choose and deem appropriate, and freedom of choice should always be core to any society.

- uncle.

- you say "freedom of choice"  , but in the same thread say that someone's use of hi-viz is "idiotic".

- i think we know the idiots when we see them , no need any help from you.

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[Cartman]

No Pistole I sailed the POST was idiotic,his choice fine but please don't view it as a panacea for road safety.

[doebag]

Personal Opinion
Not talking compulsion, but the choice to wear.
If it increases your chance of survival by 1% of 1% then why not wear it?

I do not wear it so much for it's value on the bike, but for increasing my chances if I come off the bike.
Dark night on some country road, get taken out by a rabbit,fox of heaven forbid anything larger. Separted from bike and laying unconscious in the road or a water filled ditch. If Hi-viz makes me easier to spot before I get run over  or die of hypothermia in the ditch, I'll wear it.

But my choice, I don't preach to those who choose not to.

[mecki]

Well, the whole debate just sounds like what we had before helmets became compulsory to me. 
BTW I wear a hi-viz jacket and all the protective gear all the time so I don't care if they make hi-viz compulsory or not.
I also use the 'all the  s out there are trying to kill me' attitude when I'm out on the bike.
Has served me well so far and nobody has succeeded to knock me off in over 30 years of biking yet. 

[Lonewolf]

On this occasion.....wait for it....... ..........I have to agree with mecki

[Mogster]

Mind you... if you think this subject is heated ...you wait till the Government white paper on 'Cycle Safety' comes out.... thas gonna be a giggle.. cos the proposal is not only for compulsory Vi Hiz, but also compulsory cycle helmets...  haha!

This will be a big un and will be backed by Wiggins and Cavandish ...Cav btw was the one that let the cat out the bag on this... soooo all you Mr Plod on here, you may find yourselfs a tad busy soon writing tickets for naughty bicycle types... 

[Lonewolf]

Mogs, we haven't got time to deal with proper crime cause there'e far too many Facebook threats and nasty name calling going on. 

[mecki]

Mind you... if you think this subject is heated ...you wait till the Government white paper on 'Cycle Safety' comes out.... thas gonna be a giggle.. cos the proposal is not only for compulsory Vi Hiz, but also compulsory cycle helmets...  haha!

This will be a big un and will be backed by Wiggins and Cavandish ...Cav btw was the one that let the cat out the bag on this... soooo all you Mr Plod on here, you may find yourselfs a tad busy soon writing tickets for naughty bicycle types... 

So what? Cycle helmets have been compulsory even in New Zealand for nearly 20 years now and are so in most European countries. 
Even my 3 year old grandson isn't allowed to go out on his bike without a helmet.
Not because it's the law but everybody thinks it's just so much safer. 

[Mogster]

So what? Cycle helmets have been compulsory even in New Zealand for nearly 20 years now

So is having sex with sheep.... but I'm sure Cycling lids will be just as welcomed by our peddling brethren as they were back in the day by all you old buggers who used to ride leaky British iron. 

[pistole]

- sex with sheep is an offence ???

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