Pressure On Throttle Hand - Something To Try For The Pain

[trousersnake01]

no no.

think about it.  everything rotates around the rear axle,  so when you apply rear brake all weight is rotating forwards which compresses the front forks.

Just to bottom this braking caper out.

For slow speed balance and control you should use rear brake. No need to touch the front.

for normal braking you should ALWAYS use both brakes simultaneously because if you start to slide you can release that brake to control Tyre/tarmac grip trade off but still have braking on the other wheel cos its applied and you are sharing the braking  forces between both wheels

[Winston Smith]

 

Rear brake will pivot weight forward driving the tyre into tarmac creating more grip - simple physics.

Reason for front brake app for test is that if you apply slightly too much rear it will lock - as a learner/novice under pressure easy to do and the stop is a false situation you are expecting.  Rear brake is a token only.

If you apply only front, the rear will come light as there is no drag being created at rear end (too much could induce a 'stoppie').

Slight application of rear creates that drag throws some weight forward forces front end into tarmac and assists the front brakes to work more effectively

[pistole]

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- now we all know that everyone who rides a motorcycle is instantly an expert in all things related thereto.

- thus said , we also know that there are more ways than one to achieve the same thing.

- nonetheless, we really should avail ourselves to the opinions of serious people who have actually researched the matter in-depth before either adopting or discarding it.

- therefore , please read the passage below and then guess where it was stated and when :

"The human factors approach [to preventing motorcycle accidents] begins with education of motorcyclists to the value of covering the critical front brake. Training and practice in the effective use of the front brake and covering the brake lever has the potential to increase the numbers of motorcyclists who successfully avoid a critical violation of their right of way."

- again, Google is your friend.

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- back to the inner tube adventure : took a long ride today (about 200 miles) and it helps but still isn't perfect. Will experiment more with the material used, etc.

- that and the C14 sure is buzzy at the 4,000 rpms range , ya ? Do the Murph's bar-end weights help to dial some of this out ? Or is it a case of living with it ?

- thanks !

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[Gonome]

Grip puppies are excellent

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Definitely make a big difference especially if you have big hands.

[lord vader]

I agree with pistole, i always ride with 2 fingers covering the front brake lever. it gives you that split second quicker to apply the brake in case of an emergency.

[mecki]

I agree with pistole, i always ride with 2 fingers covering the front brake lever. it gives you that split second quicker to apply the brake in case of an emergency.

If you look and think ahead you don't need to do this. 

An obstacle that may force you to brake quickly doesn't materialize out of thin air. 
And sometimes it is actually better to turn the throttle and accelerate to get out of a tight spot.
And that goes so much better with a full grip.
I cover both brakes and slow down only if I expect that emergency braking may be required like approaching an intersection, heavy traffic, filtering etc.
I always keep in mind that everybody else is out there trying to kill me at every opportunity I give them.
So I avoid giving them that opportunity. 
That is just common sense and has worked so well for me that I hardly ever have to brake hard at all.
The best way to avoid numb and/or pained hands is to change your grip every now and then. 

[lord vader]

if you hardly ever have to brake, it because you are not going fast enough 

[mecki]

if you hardly ever have to brake, it because you are not going fast enough 

I said braking hard as in emergency braking  not hardly braking at all. 
If you have to brake hard in 'emergencies' then you obviously are going too fast for your own abilities. 

[lord vader]

Some GTR,s are wasted on some folk. 

[mecki]

Some GTR,s are wasted on some folk. 

+1 

[lord vader]

 

[trousersnake01]

Dont forget you have linked brakes, by applying the rear, you are also applying the front, (albeit a fraction of the amount). Im talking about normal riding braking.

For your das, your braking for the examiner would have been for emergency braking, where you would have needed the powerful brakes to kick in to stop you.

The GTR for the first time in a bike that I have owned has a rear brake that gives me confidence, all the hondas that I have owned have rubbish rear brakes.

[zedmeister]

Never ride covering the front brake, but have always covered the clutch, when riding i am fully focussed and pay paticular attention to the road quite a way ahead ready for  Dick Head to do a crazy manouvre, i doesn't matter how you ride so long as its safe

[Boomer]

I cover both brakes if I feel the need.
Almost always when I am filtering as I have seen to many impromptu lane changes and have had several doors opened in front of me, even on motorways.
Emergency stops, both brakes.
Regular braking, both brakes.
Wet braking, both brakes.
Linked brakes? 
I like to be able to choose the brake balance between front and rear.

I also cover the brakes if I see someone doing something "suspect",.... like the dithering moron outside Sudbury yesterday who indicated left on the approach to the A134 roundabout, then indicated right, then left again, and then stalled the car halfway around the roundabout, whilst turning right with the left indicator still on.
There are a great many "senior citizens" out there who REALLY should not be driving any more, and she is definately one of them.

[Kwikasfuki]

I don't cover the front brake unless I sense danger ahead. The rear brake hardly gets used. I have always braked using the front brake which makes the front fully loaded.

I'm going to try and use the rear brake to see how it affects the braking. My rear brake is so weak even if the bike didn't have ABS I doubt the wheel would lock