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Started by Mogster, May 31, 2012, 07:34:57 AM

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BigAlan

An update on the Vibration issue, Simon at Kawasaki has arranged for my bike to be collected on Friday this week and dropping off a Versys, they will then take it back to wherever it goes and check it out, they also have a new GTR there to compare it with, i will advise the Forum of the progress.

I could have done with there GTR to compare it myself with but they are being extremely helpful so cant moan to much.

Alan
Ducati owner now but I used to have a Black one, the fastest version.
Previous, Sprint ST (2), VFR 800, Fireblade's (4) SP1, VTR1000, GPZ900, CB250, BSA Bantam D14/4, Suzuki TS100, SX200.

O.C.

good to hear that summat is happening Alan... thanks for updating the forum  :yes:
BE KIND...


ROG .

BigAlan

After initial testing of the bike Kawasaki reckon there is nothing wrong but they want another guy to take a look on Monday, there also fitting a new rear shock adjuster as that's seized solid as well.

If the final version from Mr K is no and there is nothing wrong with the bike I do know they have a GTR there so I will insist I ride there loan bike to there workshops and do my own comparison and then have a chat, if I find there bike is the same as mine then it's my hands and head which need examining, if it's perfect then the shouting and stamping of feet will ensue, also a chat with the family solicitor to see what rights I have, because right now this is no more a touring bike than the Fireblade's I used to own.

Alan
Ducati owner now but I used to have a Black one, the fastest version.
Previous, Sprint ST (2), VFR 800, Fireblade's (4) SP1, VTR1000, GPZ900, CB250, BSA Bantam D14/4, Suzuki TS100, SX200.

BigAlan

Got the bike back today, as i suspected Kawasaki say there is nothing wrong with the bike at all, even comparing it with the one they have there, well thats just another one with vibration then.

Dissapointed or what!

Well i shall have to see what i can do to reduce the vibes on my hands, bar end weights and suchlike.

If i had to give advice to anybody considering purchasing a new GTR, it would be dont, until they have sorted it out completely, if i had my time again i also would not, great bike for the first 2300 miles but now, hindsight would leave me to hold on until the new Triumph comes out and see.

Alan
Ducati owner now but I used to have a Black one, the fastest version.
Previous, Sprint ST (2), VFR 800, Fireblade's (4) SP1, VTR1000, GPZ900, CB250, BSA Bantam D14/4, Suzuki TS100, SX200.

Mogster

Sorry to hear about this Alan, tis a bloody shame...... I'm sure that there are other people who are finding the same problem as we did and aren't on the forum and therefore don't have a voice on this subject.
If you look about the web there are a rather suspicious amout of 2010/11 bikes up for sale, which makes me think that owners are, like me, just getting shot of them....

there must be something that Kawasaki have done between the earlier model that has caused this in some way, I wouldn't mind betting that a lot of information was gathered whilst your bike was with Kawasaki and this along with other info that they have is being looked at back in japan..... not that it helps any of us who have been blighted by this problem.  :ohplease:

She is like the Bumblebee, she should not fly....... and yet she does!

Kwikasfuki

Quote from: BigAlan on June 27, 2012, 12:24:28 PM
Got the bike back today, as i suspected Kawasaki say there is nothing wrong with the bike at all, even comparing it with the one they have there, well thats just another one with vibration then.

Dissapointed or what!

Well i shall have to see what i can do to reduce the vibes on my hands, bar end weights and suchlike.

If i had to give advice to anybody considering purchasing a new GTR, it would be dont, until they have sorted it out completely, if i had my time again i also would not, great bike for the first 2300 miles but now, hindsight would leave me to hold on until the new Triumph comes out and see.

Alan

That is bad news. Do you know if they retorqued the engine mountings on the bike?
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Ros

QuoteIf you look about the web there are a rather suspicious amout of 2010/11 bikes up for sale, which makes me think that owners are, like me, just getting shot of them....

Oh I don't know about that, but in France there are not many 2nd hand ones for sale at all. Those that are for sale seem to be for a fairly high price too.  And I haven't seen many GTRs in Italy at all...

Mine is still a French spec 2010 model and I've had it from new. No issues to report at all (apart from the obvious fact that there are about 55 horses missing anyway...  :censored:)

I'm very sorry to hear about these problems that you folks are having. Which reminds me, I must go and check if I can still move the suspension adjuster....

BigAlan

Quote from: Kwikasfuki on June 27, 2012, 02:11:02 PM
That is bad news. Do you know if they retorqued the engine mountings on the bike?

I am told by the dealer who had it before Kawasaki they checked the torque settings, they did not slacken off the bolts then re-torque them.

Is this a DIY job as to be honest i am losing interest in keep taking it back.

Alan
Ducati owner now but I used to have a Black one, the fastest version.
Previous, Sprint ST (2), VFR 800, Fireblade's (4) SP1, VTR1000, GPZ900, CB250, BSA Bantam D14/4, Suzuki TS100, SX200.

Kwikasfuki

Quote from: BigAlan on June 27, 2012, 03:01:54 PM
I am told by the dealer who had it before Kawasaki they checked the torque settings, they did not slacken off the bolts then re-torque them.

Is this a DIY job as to be honest i am losing interest in keep taking it back.

Alan

Yes, it is a DIY job? Do you have the manual?

How severe is the vibe?
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BigAlan

Quote from: Kwikasfuki on June 27, 2012, 03:16:06 PM
Yes, it is a DIY job? Do you have the manual?

How severe is the vibe?

I think I have the manual on a computer upstairs, the vibe is a pain in the hands literally when touring at around 4000rpm with them going numb.

The bit which worries me is removing the fairing, the rest I can happily do but I remember removing a Sprint ST fairing and busting it.

Alan
Ducati owner now but I used to have a Black one, the fastest version.
Previous, Sprint ST (2), VFR 800, Fireblade's (4) SP1, VTR1000, GPZ900, CB250, BSA Bantam D14/4, Suzuki TS100, SX200.

Kwikasfuki

Quote from: BigAlan on June 27, 2012, 05:09:22 PM
I think I have the manual on a computer upstairs, the vibe is a pain in the hands literally when touring at around 4000rpm with them going numb.

The bit which worries me is removing the fairing, the rest I can happily do but I remember removing a Sprint ST fairing and busting it.

Alan

Its a 2011 model correct? I think I might have something that will help.
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BigAlan

Yup, purchased Sep 1st 2011

Alan
Ducati owner now but I used to have a Black one, the fastest version.
Previous, Sprint ST (2), VFR 800, Fireblade's (4) SP1, VTR1000, GPZ900, CB250, BSA Bantam D14/4, Suzuki TS100, SX200.

TRIGGERHAPPY

Here are a update on my vibrating front brakediscs. Have been to the dealer for my  7500miles service.
Everything ok but the frontbreaks. They checked out the wheelbearings,calipers,brakepads,the rim and tyre.
All ok. Washed the brakedisc with brakeclean and a strong solvent for removing asphalt.(Dont know what it's called in english).Rubber the brake disc and the pads Put the bike together but it did vibrate as before. Got new brakediscs and pads on warranty.
Have not changed them yet. Hopefully next week. Talked to the dealer and he told me that they have hade two problem bikes earlier.
This was the zz-r1400. They solved the brake problem on these bikes,when they changed the pads disc and the rim.
If my problem appears again after changing them this time,they will do the same on my bike. All on warranty.
And this is not the dealer I bought the bike from. Very pleased with the service. They even washed the bike for me before I picked it up after the service.
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KAW GTR 1400 -08..11-16
HON ST 1100 _-99..11-11
SUZ GSXR K1 _-07..09-11
YAM YZF 1000_-97..05-09
YAM FZR 1000_-95..04-05
NO BIKE!!!!!!!!!!!--..99-04
HON ST1100__ -94..96-99
KAW ZZR 600__-94..95-96
YAM TDM 850__-92..95-95
KAW ZZR 600__-93..94-95
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Kwikasfuki

I would start by doing the easy things:

Torque the header, exhaust, tank before attempting the engine mounting
Heavier bar ends, or adding a washer in between bar end and grip
Grip puppies are also known to help
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pistole

- did you get to ride the Dealer's tester unit ?

- did the tester also generate the vibrations that you speak of at the 4,000 rpms range ?

- did the dealer/principal's rep acknowledge the vibs ?

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- the reason for asking is that I am in the midst of breaking in my 2012 GTR and am doing it by the book (and it says to keep her below 4000 rpms for the first 800 kms). You can imagine how difficult its been so far to keep the throttle checked ...  so have learnt to keep it nicely at 4K .. and there are absolutely no vibrations at all from the machine.

- hope you get to resolve your issues there.

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