Tool holder security screws!

[911dude]

Hi all
First of all hello to everyone, only registered today as i bought my first GTR 14 last week.
I've just attempted to get to the accessories wire under the seat but have been thwarted by the 4 security screws holding the tool holder box in place.
Two questions: 
1/  why the hell of Kawasaki seen fit to fasten a plastic toolbox holder under the seat down with security bolts!!
2/ How the hell do i get them undone, they seem impervious to attack by screwdriver,cant get a grip on them with molegrips,cant cut a new slot as i cant get access with a dremel, attempted to drill a hole with a view to using a stud extractor but the drill bit barely scratched the surface !
Any ideas welcome !

[Kwikasfuki]

Hi 911dube and welcome to the forum.

See this post re removing the anti theft bolts

http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,447.msg4833.html#msg4833

[911dude]

Thanks 
To be resumed tomorrow !

[Kwikasfuki]

If you can't get a grip on them with the mole grips, then I suggest getting the dremel out and flattening two opposite sides to get a better grip.
That should do the trick

[O.C.]

The accessories cables shouldn't be under the toolbox.. mine are to be located (a bit fiddly with big mits) by the seat catch...or am I missing summat here 

BTW I agree security screws in the toolbox...whats all that about

I fitted a tail tidy to my mates 1000SX yesterday and that bike has bloody security screws everywhere....Kawasaki must have bought a batch load of em .........I just 'dremmeled' them into submission 

[BigAlan]

When I took my security bolts out I got a sharp centre punch and a sharp "tap" started them free, then I would them out easy, replaced with stainless cross head bolts instead.

Alan

[Lonewolf]

It's easier to access the rear accessory leads if you take the tool tray out, this then helps you to remove the small fuse holder which is attached to the tool tray also. Opens the whole back end up and makes the job so much easier.

[911dude]

I've already fitted a power distribution unit under the right side fairing switched from the front positive accessories lead to power the satnav, heated grips and heated waistcoats, so in the end i gave up with the toolbox holder and wired back to the distribution block.
Its for the heated seat pad for the missus, she doesn't do cold ! 
I'll post a couple of pics when i get chance .

[Lonewolf]

Sounds like you've been busy!

[Andy]

A big screwdriver or an old blunt wood chisel maybe 

[Lonewolf]

I just got mine out with a large slotted screw driver. A couple of turns with that and then got a small pair of mole grips on them and out they came. Then straight in the bin and like most folk, exchanged them for stainless steel bolts.

[911dude]

Must be a real joy for the Kwak mechanic when he needs to get to the ecu etc !

[Stephen.Stallebrass]

Came across these dreaded screws myself today... who the hell knows what possessed Kawasaki to use securuty screws here of all places. Actually it's probably so people go to the dealer to get stuff done.

Anyway, the purpose of this resurrection post is to inform anyone else doing a search how I did it, the best way IMO, or when all other methods fail... simply use an appropriately sized bolt extractor socket. All four off within 2 minutes, no problem!

You can get a 10pc set for about £30ish on fleabay and they're a very useful tool to have. It's basically one of these:



Next dry day that fuzeblock and alarm WILL be fitted.

[tommytool]

Yep, dremel flats on the sloping sides and a big flat blade screwdriver. Screws are there to thwart attempts to nick the ecu.

Like the extracting tool btw!

[Stephen.Stallebrass]

Didn't have a dremmel but a mate had some of these bolt extractors.

I originally tried a wide-ish screwdriver, successfully got one out but could not get enough purchase on the others.

Picture is from google images...