Deliberate ramming on the motorway today - how to trace driver?

[nigelp]

A friend of mine's wife  has just been rammed on the motorway by a car that cut her up first, then when she gave him the bird, pulled across ramming intio her and drove off.

How can he deal with this corrcetly, the car is a renault clio campus, black, index YF07TXJ ?

He would be round there with a claw hammer if left to his own devices!!

Police called but not interested as no one was injured, just gave a ref for insurance claim.

[Kwikasfuki]

Looks like that reg is insured and they should be going through insurance (insurance can get all the details from the DVLA)

However, get ready for denial and a long process. Are there any witnesses?

Surely that's a hit and run. When it happened to me, the police chased it up immediately.

[viper]

id pursue the police more vigourously , its a hit and run and although they still may not give you the details they should investigate. If your wife was to develop an injury  then i believe they will HAVE to investigate . as well as witness's are there any types of cameras near the incident area, you never know.

[viper]

id pursue the police more vigourously , its a hit and run and although they still may not give you the details they should investigate. If your wife was to develop an injury  then i believe they will HAVE to investigate . as well as witness's are there any types of cameras near the incident area, you never know.

also , the dvla sometimes will give out driver details if there is a very good reason to do so, you would need to write in , crime number, injuries , wanting to proceed with a private prosecution ect ect

[Lonewolf]

A friend of mine's wife  has just been rammed on the motorway by a car that cut her up first, then when she gave him the bird, pulled across ramming intio her and drove off.

How can he deal with this corrcetly, the car is a renault clio campus, black, index YF07TXJ ?

He would be round there with a claw hammer if left to his own devices!!

Police called but not interested as no one was injured, just gave a ref for insurance claim.

Nigel, on the face of what you have described its a straight up case of dangerous driving on their behalf with a minor public order offence committed by the lady, (shame on her).    The Police have a duty to investigate matters, or am I missing something?
Yes, your friend could simply pass those details onto her insurance company and possibly in a years time after many letters have flown back and forth you might get a result out of it, but more than likely you wont. Word v word, no additional witnesses etc, it'll probably end up as a knock for knock with both their premiums going up. Not a positive outcome at all.
My advice would be to go back to the Police and report it. Insist that you want it documenting and investigating. The Police need to send out an NIP within 14 days of the alleged offence and a notice to provide details of driver, Form 73 or 173, I forget which!    Driver identifies himself to Police through the forms, they make contact with him, invite him in for what is called a book 3 interview or arrest him if the necessity is fulfilled. (probably not though on these circs alone).
ANPR cameras if present in the vicinity of the incident will confirm the vehicle was where you say it was at the approximate time you say it was. ANPR will also identify other vehicles which were also present potentially and will give the Police potential witnesses to speak to. Does the friends car have damage, is there paint transference, if so that evidence needs securing.
This is basic investigative work FFS. I've spent many years on traffic and stuff like this is bread and butter Policing, absolute back to basic stuff.
I think its disgusting that your friend has been dismissed in the way that you have described.
Dangerous driving upon conviction is a mandatory disqualification.
Fail to stop at the scene of an accident is a Summary offence and upon conviction a driver can get 5-10 points and a fine of up to £5000/ 6 months in prison.
Fail to report an accident is a Summary offence and upon conviction a driver can get 5-10 points and a fine of up to £5000/ 6 months in prison.
You dont get penalties like that for burglary, get it reported properly if they refuse make an official complaint. Sounds harsh (possibly) but WTF there are some lazy bastards about who just dont want to do any work!!!!!

Phew, I need a rest now, I'm gonna go and look at my GTR in the garage to calm down..............

[Kwikasfuki]

LW, can you come and police our area?

[100milesaway]

Nigel, on the face of what you have described its a straight up case of dangerous driving on their behalf with a minor public order offence committed by the lady, (shame on her).    The Police have a duty to investigate matters, or am I missing something?
Yes, your friend could simply pass those details onto her insurance company and possibly in a years time after many letters have flown back and forth you might get a result out of it, but more than likely you wont. Word v word, no additional witnesses etc, it'll probably end up as a knock for knock with both their premiums going up. Not a positive outcome at all.
My advice would be to go back to the Police and report it. Insist that you want it documenting and investigating. The Police need to send out an NIP within 14 days of the alleged offence and a notice to provide details of driver, Form 73 or 173, I forget which!    Driver identifies himself to Police through the forms, they make contact with him, invite him in for what is called a book 3 interview or arrest him if the necessity is fulfilled. (probably not though on these circs alone).
ANPR cameras if present in the vicinity of the incident will confirm the vehicle was where you say it was at the approximate time you say it was. ANPR will also identify other vehicles which were also present potentially and will give the Police potential witnesses to speak to. Does the friends car have damage, is there paint transference, if so that evidence needs securing.
This is basic investigative work FFS. I've spent many years on traffic and stuff like this is bread and butter Policing, absolute back to basic stuff.
I think its disgusting that your friend has been dismissed in the way that you have described.
Dangerous driving upon conviction is a mandatory disqualification.
Fail to stop at the scene of an accident is a Summary offence and upon conviction a driver can get 5-10 points and a fine of up to £5000/ 6 months in prison.
Fail to report an accident is a Summary offence and upon conviction a driver can get 5-10 points and a fine of up to £5000/ 6 months in prison.
You dont get penalties like that for burglary, get it reported properly if they refuse make an official complaint. Sounds harsh (possibly) but WTF there are some lazy bastards about who just dont want to do any work!!!!!

Phew, I need a rest now, I'm gonna go and look at my GTR in the garage to calm down..............

Wow, That just about sums it up then!!!!!!!!!!Steve, You are my hero

[Lonewolf]

LW, can you come and police our area?

Its too rough where you live, you need to move or something. 

[Lonewolf]

Geoff, has your friend from work been to Court yet?

[100milesaway]

Geoff, has your friend from work been to Court yet?

Nah    11 july

[Rusty]

Nigel ... as Mr Wolf says +1 ... potentially there is a lot they can do and that's what Traffic are there for ! Do NOT be fobbed off .... even though it could and will take ages to sort out there is no doubt some negligence and perhaps criminal liability to be investigated .... I would like to think that because all this happened on a Motorway that Traffic will deal with it, but each force will have different SOP's so they may farm their "minor" stuff out to process units to deal with ... there are many routes that this incident could take... it's a shame that Steve and I don't work in the same neck of the woods otherwise the felonious perpetrator would be banged up by now !
Keep us posted.

[nigelp]

Gents

I'm more than grateful and have passed on the advice to the couple who asked me to pass on their thanks. They are not going to pursue via insurance for the very reasons we all know about premiums being affected. But they may well follow Lonewolf's suggestions about the police.

Thanks again.

Nigel

[nigelp]

Confirmed they will be visiting wakefield's best later today to get some action against this idiot. Thanks again for all the advice.

Nigel

[Rusty]

Pleasure old fruit. 

[Lonewolf]

Just dont mention my name!