Cruise control Instal 2010 model

[viper]

Just fitted my audiovox cruise control using the cc100 kit and the tutorials from the Murphs kits pages. Ive added my 2cents to this as i found the throttle cable part a challange and could not use what the guys had done with their 2008 models. I know there are very few differences between my 2010 model but im wondering if space allocation around the throttle linkage area is different, it is in other areas.

This is where i bought the " Kit " from, unit with vac canister and mounting bracket

http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=422


this is blayde kennedy's how to

http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/docs/c14cc-install.htm


this is fred harmons how to

http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/docs/fhc14cc-install.htm



My few words and pictures will help with the tricky bits, hopefully

I  previously fitted this to my zzr1200 and had several years of trouble free use out of it



Flaring the 10mm copper tube




take off the screen , fairing tops ( glovebox panel) and side fairings only





Throttle linkage, Couldnt get the cable to work as the other how to's suggested.
My solution was to make a Tab that attached to the throttle link which changed the angle of attack for the cable, cable is not long enough to come up from behind and space to the left of the throttle link is impossibly tight

Hole drilled in existing throttle arm



I made a tab from the bracket parts that came with the kit and bolted it to he throttle arm







I used a length of 10mm copper pipe to protect the cable from all the wires and pipes in its path and attached it to the frame braces using kit parts and a few cable ties. when you attach the cable to your tab on the throttle arm try to construct it in a way where the cable loop has free rotation on the tab, so its always perfectly aligned when the cable is pulling and releasing.

I spent a few hours getting the Tab, the new cable and the flared copper pipe all to be in perfect alingment, you must achieve a smooth path of operation when the cruise is working, if that makes sense



I located both the servo and vac can under the right fairing tops, loads of space




The tacho wire , its red and white and i hooked into it before it goes under the tank, exposed the wire and soldered onto it in a T , shrink wrapped it








connected the vac tubes to throttle body 1 and 4 and bought them into a T before they connected to the vac can



I ended up using a bracket I had from some oxford heated grips, it worked out better than the bracket i had from my 12




Test rode the bike in mad max naked style , i did manage to do a drive way test. The cruise like very steady revs to work ok and its very difficult to do this with your hand on the throttle. So i got the bike on centre stand and increased the tick over to about 3k revs and hit the set button, the revs wildly jumped but i was able to get it to lock on , so i knew at least it was sort of working, even tho the revs where all over the place

happy installing

[Winston Smith]

Wish I'd had the fore sight to photograph my installation 18 months ago!

I fabricated a bracket to hold oxford grips and audiovox controller which looks quite neat.  Made it out of a piece of sheet galvanised steel.

[viper]

nice winston,
how did you get on with the throttle connection part ?, route ? does  your instal differ from mine much, could I have improved anything?

[Winston Smith]

I didn't have the bottle to drill the hole in the tang, so I picky backed the cable onto the throttle cable.  Never snagged and works well.

If I recall rightly I fed the cable through fairing front and it came out under the throttle assembly.

I started following Freds then lost the papers and ended up with a mix'n'match between the two sets of guidelines!

Also, I bought the harness from Schnitz Racing for the tacho pick up.  Plug and play!

[2kwacks]

I'v never been a lover of cruise control on motorbikes, tried the cruise control on the b.m.w rt1200 and was not impressed with it at all. the cruise control your showing looks itech, so may be better than the b.m.w criuse control. asuming ther idea is that it prevents your wrist from aching and your fingers from going dead! I use one of theses http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Motorcycle-Throttle-Aid-Clamp-Over-Cruise-Control-Fits-7-8-And-1-Bars-/270822656332?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3f0e49c94c fitted in 2 seconds and works a treat, 3,200 miles around france,swiz alps and italy on the zzr1400 and 1,000 miles around northwales,tenby,ilfracombe,
landsend,torquay on the gtr1400 and had no problem lifting my pint in the evening, or anythink eles I wanted to do ;) or felt I needed to do ;D

[Winston Smith]

Tried them 2kwaks and could gat on with them.  Made my hand ache!

Advantage of the cruise control is on auto-route/bahns and motorways when you can relax your right hand a bit.

Electronic/vacuum ones llike this maintain speed up inclines or down hills too keeping it constant and legal.  Also keeps the fuel flow constant so (should) maintain fuel efficiency.

A lot of it is having confidence in the system getting used to it.

Must admit it is a bit of a bottle tester first time you try one you fitted yourself!

[viper]

Im with winston on this , however most bikers do tend to have a fear of cruise controls, fair enough. I just love the comfort of being able to rest the right wrist now and then.
I really dont like the clamp on types,  the bikes speed is up and down like a tarts duvet and anything that clamps my throttle on without  a safety cut out is a bit risky.

If you are the kinda guy who asks for help changing a bulb then this aint for you

[Lonewolf]

I like the concept of cruise control on a bike but I would definately not consider myself confident enough to start such a big project. Viper I do however like the look of those air horns. Do you have an idiots guide to fitting them, I might just be capable of doing that.  :) Mines an older model to yours but presumably there would still be room for those beasts.

[Kwikasfuki]

+1 for the airhorns. I never noticed them first time around

[viper]

I like the concept of cruise control on a bike but I would definately not consider myself confident enough to start such a big project. Viper I do however like the look of those air horns. Do you have an idiots guide to fitting them, I might just be capable of doing that.  :) Mines an older model to yours but presumably there would still be room for those beasts.

Thery are full car size
Basically locate them as i have , you may have to get the compressor pushed down into the lower fairing, use cable ties to secure everything. Pull the wires off your original horns and pull them back along the loom  and they will be long  enough to fit onto your new horns . Try the direct wiring approach and they should work fine.
Mine are wired slightly different , through a 4 pin relay comming off my home made Fusebox, relays are usually the best way to go for max current but yours should work fine the way I said.

They are loud and the way ive positioned them gets the sound out through the vents

[Richard]

Hi

Dragging up this old thread

I am looking at fitting cruise control to my trike.
Looking at the install I assume this as this unit controls the throttle it will also cause the hand grip to rotate, so you can not keep hold of the grip or you will prevent it working properly?

Thanks

Richard

[viper]

yes the hand throttle grip will rotate with the revs of the bike . However the amount it moves is actually very small and you can keep a light grip of the throttle without causing any problems. TBH i tend to place my hand on the fluid resevoir just above which gives me bar control. The throttle grip actually only moves a very small amount and you will be hard pressed to actually see it move at all.
You are going to set your cruise when you are going at 50 0r 60 mph and the throttle will move fractionally to maintain this, only if going up a very steep hill will you see it move.

[Richard]

Hi

OK thanks
I am looking at units that use a motor unit instead of a vacuum unit

Richard

[pistole]

yes , the stepper motor version is said to be better than the vacuum system.

just think over your throttle connections 20X and anything that need securing must be well thought out. Failure/fouling can be dangerous.

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[viper]

is the motor version the vistra one ?? if so it has a good reputation


only thing 1 will add about reliability is that this same unit was fitted to my zzr1200 in 2004 and i moved it over to my gtr in 2010 and it has never let me down. ive always taken a lot of trouble in making the installation as robust as possible. I instal when the bike is off the road and spend about a week on it .