Kawasaki 1400 GTR

1400 GTR - All Models => 1400GTR Discussion => Topic started by: GTRpilot on July 24, 2017, 11:56:06 AM

Title: Preparation.
Post by: GTRpilot on July 24, 2017, 11:56:06 AM
Bit the bullet and to save money for the forthcoming tour cracked the service bit's myself.
So,
Oil done,
Oil Filter done,
Air Filter done,
Final drive done,
Brakes being looked at,
Clutch and Brake fluid is good,
Tyres are good.
Coolant between mark's.
Only done 15000 so don't think shim's require checking yet.
Anything else you would consider checking prior to a foreign tour?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: Boomer on July 24, 2017, 12:57:13 PM
Check coolant.  :banana:
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: GTRpilot on July 24, 2017, 01:08:00 PM
Yep, between H and L marking's.
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: PaulB on July 24, 2017, 01:12:58 PM
Has the battery been replaced, or is the original still fitted?

Cheers

Paul B.
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: wildybeast on July 24, 2017, 03:38:35 PM
spare key fob battery  :clap:
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: zedmeister on July 24, 2017, 05:01:34 PM
suspension settings / tyre pressures
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: GTRpilot on July 24, 2017, 05:37:42 PM
Quote from: PaulB on July 24, 2017, 01:12:58 PM
Has the battery been replaced, or is the original still fitted?

Cheers

Paul B.

As far as I know still on original.
Good point though, 2010 bike, owned since 2013,, battery never given me cause for concern, but should I replace on it's age alone?
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: wildybeast on July 25, 2017, 09:54:41 AM
i carry one in my glove box just in case.saves faffing about  and cheap n easy to change. :clap:
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: doebag on July 25, 2017, 10:18:55 AM
Quote from: wildybeast on July 25, 2017, 09:54:41 AM
i carry one in my glove box just in case.saves faffing about  and cheap n easy to change. :clap:

Fob or vehicle battery ?
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: PaulB on July 25, 2017, 05:10:38 PM
Quote from: GTRpilot on July 24, 2017, 05:37:42 PM
As far as I know still on original.
Good point though, 2010 bike, owned since 2013,, battery never given me cause for concern, but should I replace on it's age alone?

I think £50-ish is good value for peace of mind, plus will hopefully rule out a random failure in the next few years to come.

I'd change it, personally. Opinions may differ, however  :smiley:

Cheers

Paul B.
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: GTRpilot on July 25, 2017, 09:11:37 PM
Any thought's on the Motobatt battery as replacement.
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: flatfour on July 25, 2017, 09:30:25 PM
Not a GTR, but I've used Motobatt batteries on my classic Honda's for some time, with complete success.
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: viper on July 25, 2017, 10:31:14 PM
Brake and clutch fluids should be flushed through every 5 years for optimum performance. Easy to do if you keep topping up as you pump the old fluid through, well worth the effort and the internal seals will have an increased life
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: Brizzlerob on July 26, 2017, 08:57:33 AM
Quote from: GTRpilot on July 24, 2017, 05:37:42 PM
As far as I know still on original.
Good point though, 2010 bike, owned since 2013,, battery never given me cause for concern, but should I replace on it's age alone?

If there is no concern with the battery why would you want to change it? Batteries are relatively easy to obtain and you could buy a battery that lasts a year or so and then fails where your existing battery has proven to be reliable up to now.
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: GTRpilot on July 26, 2017, 09:24:19 AM
Quote from: Brizzlerob on July 26, 2017, 08:57:33 AM
If there is no concern with the battery why would you want to change it? Batteries are relatively easy to obtain and you could buy a battery that lasts a year or so and then fails where your existing battery has proven to be reliable up to now.
I read somewhere that you should look to replace after around 5 year's? Stand to be corrected.
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: snowy on July 26, 2017, 10:12:11 AM
Quote from: GTRpilot on July 26, 2017, 09:24:19 AM
I read somewhere that you should look to replace after around 5 year's? Stand to be corrected.

There is no set life of a battery, the only way you can really see if a battery is still up to it is a drop test, i.e. test how long it'll hold it's charge on load.
Mine died in 1 day, fine on initial start, wouldn't do it again after a couple of hours then wouldn't take any charge.
My philosophy is buy the best you can afford with the best warranty, peace of mind if it dies before warranty expiry.
If you haven't replaced the battery yourself, so date unknown, whip it out as manufacture date stamp usually on there, and get it tested whilst out!
Replaced mine recently with a Lucas from local motor factors, again good warranty, load rating, and can get it replaced locally if dies again!
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: Burchy on July 26, 2017, 11:17:23 AM
Put a Motobatt in my GTR.  Can't fault it, plus it has 4 terminals, so adding extras is a doddle without having to completely disconnect
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: GTRpilot on July 26, 2017, 02:31:12 PM
just had a quick look at the battery, Yuasa, no date stamp that I can see, charging 12.1v on start up then going to 14.4v with a little throttle after about 15 secs.
Ran a meter on it when disconnected showing 12.53. anyone know is that about right?
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: flatfour on July 26, 2017, 03:02:49 PM
When the battery on my GTR failed (at two years old) it went without warning - cranked normally one day, rode around 100 miles and just enough power to light dash panel next day! I thought that it might be a charging issue, however after fitting a new battery there were no further problems in the twelve months that I kept it after that.
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: shaggs147 on July 26, 2017, 07:01:54 PM
I'm still on the original. 2010 bike, not far off 30000 miles and never been on an optimate. Starts first go even though it's not had a lot of use this year. 5 years for a battery is a good rule of thumb, but I've got no intention of changing it until it dies. Unless you are planning to ride out to the middle of nowhere I'd stick with the original. Hopefully you will be sensible enough to have breakdown cover anyway just in case. If you try to cover every eventuality it'll be sods law that something else fails. Alarms seem to be a good battery killer from my past experiences.

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Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: GTRpilot on July 26, 2017, 08:42:24 PM
Quote from: shaggs147 on July 26, 2017, 07:01:54 PM
I'm still on the original. 2010 bike, not far off 30000 miles and never been on an optimate. Starts first go even though it's not had a lot of use this year. 5 years for a battery is a good rule of thumb, but I've got no intention of changing it until it dies. Unless you are planning to ride out to the middle of nowhere I'd stick with the original. Hopefully you will be sensible enough to have breakdown cover anyway just in case. If you try to cover every eventuality it'll be sods law that something else fails. Alarms seem to be a good battery killer from my past experiences.

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Croatia bound in a few week's, covered by Carole Nash breakdown, no alarm (Who notices them nowaday's anyway)  :2guns: got 3 days to get down to Zagreb so don't fancy getting stuck in the middle of Slovenia or somewhere with a dead bike, so just trying to cover the basic's.
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: snowy on July 27, 2017, 01:30:08 PM
Think you've really answered your own doubt!
Testing off load will rarely find a decaying cell, needs a drop / load test.
If you can afford it, it's peace of mind.
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: GTRpilot on July 27, 2017, 06:43:40 PM
Thank's for all the input, new battery ordered, this ones done it's job but, better safe than walking  :yes:
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: PaulB on July 28, 2017, 12:02:44 AM
Quote from: GTRpilot on July 27, 2017, 06:43:40 PM
Thank's for all the input, new battery ordered, this ones done it's job but, better safe than walking  :yes:

Wise man. I did the same last year before heading off to rural Sweden, Finland and Norway.

Mine was also the original battery, left on an Optimate when in the garage. I just knew I'd be kicking myself if I stopped for a coffee somewhere, then had to waste a day sorting a new battery when the bike wouldn't start again...

Cheers

Paul B.
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: Stolichnaya on July 28, 2017, 07:16:52 PM
Pants, wallet, passport.
Get going !!!
Title: Re: Preparation.
Post by: GTRpilot on July 28, 2017, 09:09:24 PM
Quote from: Stolichnaya on July 28, 2017, 07:16:52 PM
Pants, wallet, passport.
Get going !!!

Toothbrush?