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1400 GTR - All Models => 1400GTR Discussion => Topic started by: mikeyw64 on February 09, 2017, 01:34:37 PM

Title: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: mikeyw64 on February 09, 2017, 01:34:37 PM
is there a quick and easy way or does it involve removing several acres of plastic?
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: O.C. on February 09, 2017, 03:36:29 PM
It's not too difficult.....rather than trying to explain I've attached this link....look for section 16-63 

Hope it helps  :smiley:    

http://mototh.com/files/kawasaki/1400GTR/Kawasaki-1400GTR-Service-Manual.pdf 
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: mikeyw64 on February 09, 2017, 06:47:55 PM
Quote from: O.C. on February 09, 2017, 03:36:29 PM
It's not too difficult.....rather than trying to explain I've attached this link....look for section 16-63 

Hope it helps  :smiley:    

http://mototh.com/files/kawasaki/1400GTR/Kawasaki-1400GTR-Service-Manual.pdf

Aye already read the workshop method but was just wondering if there was a shortcut


Hmmm why didnt they just put an easy access panel in the inner fairing (facing the forks)
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: O.C. on February 09, 2017, 09:21:09 PM
style over function  maybe   :yes:   
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: virginiajim on February 09, 2017, 09:33:13 PM
When I've messed with them I had to take off the plastics.  I think someone sometime had a quicker method...maybe removing the nose piece (the one you have to move to get to the city lights) and possibly the front black plastic thingy that lines the side of the radiator.
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: mikeyw64 on February 09, 2017, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: virginiajim on February 09, 2017, 09:33:13 PM
When I've messed with them I had to take off the plastics.  I think someone sometime had a quicker method...maybe removing the nose piece (the one you have to move to get to the city lights) and possibly the front black plastic thingy that lines the side of the radiator.

Would have been far simpler if they had been designed the same way as the rear indicators ;)
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: Wookie on February 09, 2017, 09:58:26 PM
Reet ..game on
Who can come up with a farkle to dood the disnitygrator bulb  :smiley:
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: mikeyw64 on February 10, 2017, 10:40:39 AM
Quote from: Wookie on February 09, 2017, 09:58:26 PM
Reet ..game on
Who can come up with a farkle to dood the disnitygrator bulb  :smiley:


Feck nose what he said but I'm just about to fit switchback LEDs into the front indicator housings,


combined DRL & turn signal ala Audi etc


To answer my original question and to confirm what someone else suggested.

You can access the bulbs far easier and with less plastic removal than the workshop manual method.


1) Remove the rear quick rivet from the middle inner fairing on the side you require access too
2) Undo the two screws holding the inner side panel on and remove
3) you can now access the bulb holder (although you may find it easier to remove the front screw from the outer middle part of the fairing)
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: PaulB on February 10, 2017, 10:48:04 AM
That's fine for changing the bulb, but to splice into the "sidelight" wiring (for the DRL side of your new bulbs) wouldn't you need to remove most of the fairing?

Just curious, is all... :smiley:

Cheers

Paul B.
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: mikeyw64 on February 10, 2017, 11:07:03 AM
Quote from: PaulB on February 10, 2017, 10:48:04 AM
That's fine for changing the bulb, but to splice into the "sidelight" wiring (for the DRL side of your new bulbs) wouldn't you need to remove most of the fairing?

Just curious, is all... :smiley:

Cheers

Paul B.

Only extra step is to completely remove the middle inner fairing (ie all 4 quick rivets) so you can pick up a feed from the parking lights
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: Wookie on February 10, 2017, 07:57:54 PM
Mikey ah didn't think anyone could mistake the play on words ... disnitygrator = indicator  :mfr_lol:
And the gauntlet was thrown down as to whome could come up with a FARKLE  =quick/er way of changing the indicator bulb .
Do keep up old boy  :smiley:
p.s
Nose is the one on ya mug
Knows is the one of understanding  :smartass: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: O.C. on February 10, 2017, 08:19:20 PM
 and  'nouse' is summat else   :yes:   




Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: Wookie on February 10, 2017, 09:37:26 PM
 :agree:......errr what is it ?? :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: O.C. on February 11, 2017, 02:35:52 PM
Quote from: Wookie on February 10, 2017, 09:37:26 PM
:agree:......errr what is it ?? :mfr_lol:

aaah, tis summat you posses in abundance olde chap   :mfr_lol:   
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: Wookie on February 13, 2017, 09:59:45 PM
 :mfr_lol: fankoo oh sage one  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: O.C. on February 14, 2017, 10:55:05 AM
Quote from: Wookie on February 13, 2017, 09:59:45 PM
:mfr_lol: fankoo oh sage one  :mfr_lol:

Behave yerself  :mfr_lol:   
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: StickyOne on March 06, 2017, 07:25:16 PM
I've dropped a small screwdriver down the inner fairing whilst 'messing around' with the bike.
It's dropped down under the glove box (which I had removed) down towards the indicator area.
I can't see it.
Is there a way of getting into the fairing from underneath or does it have to come to pieces?
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: PRD on March 06, 2017, 08:14:25 PM
Quote from: StickyOne on March 06, 2017, 07:25:16 PM
I've dropped a small screwdriver down the inner fairing whilst 'messing around' with the bike.
It's dropped down under the glove box (which I had removed) down towards the indicator area.
I can't see it.
Is there a way of getting into the fairing from underneath or does it have to come to pieces?
my poor baby! How could you?
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: pross on March 06, 2017, 08:40:25 PM
Quote from: StickyOne on March 06, 2017, 07:25:16 PM
I've dropped a small screwdriver down the inner fairing whilst 'messing around' with the bike.
It's dropped down under the glove box (which I had removed) down towards the indicator area.
I can't see it.
Is there a way of getting into the fairing from underneath or does it have to come to pieces?
I've used one of the telescopic magnets with success when I dropped a bolt  :whistling:
It saved me removing any fairing
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: O.C. on March 07, 2017, 02:50:13 PM
Quote from: pross on March 06, 2017, 08:40:25 PM
I've used one of the telescopic magnets with success when I dropped a bolt  :whistling:
It saved me removing any fairing

Yep that would be my suggestion too......short of picking up the bike, holding it upside down and giving it a good shake
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: StickyOne on March 07, 2017, 06:26:50 PM
I've recovered my lost screwdriver.
It's certainly not a straight forward method taking the fairing apart.
The workshop manual link above is for the older bike and it's slightly different to the newer bike fairing.
How does the lower fairing 'quick rivet' work? The one where the fairings join together behind the front wheel. I don't want to force it and break anything.
And the self tapping screw joining the outer to the inner skin under where the coolant bottle is located. What a joke! You can't get your screwdriver in because of the hose with the spring protection on it. I managed it after a lot of swearing using a 90° philips. I'm going to replace it with a hex head self tapper so I can get a rachet spanner on it instead.
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: O.C. on March 07, 2017, 07:02:30 PM
quick rivets are usually easily opened by pushing the central pin inwards, the whole rivet can then be removed

Replacement is by pulling the central pin out of the rivet pushing the rivet body back into place and pressing the central pin home   :yes: 
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: StickyOne on March 07, 2017, 07:08:17 PM
Quote from: O.C. on March 07, 2017, 07:02:30 PM
quick rivets are usually easily opened by pushing the central pin inwards, the whole rivet can then be removed

Replacement is by pulling the central pin out of the rivet pushing the rivet body back into place and pressing the central pin home   :yes: 

The one securing the fairings together are a different design Rog
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: O.C. on March 07, 2017, 08:34:13 PM
Quote from: StickyOne on March 07, 2017, 07:08:17 PM
The one securing the fairings together are a different design Rog

They may have changed, but on mine there are two forward facing rivets (one above the other) on the lower front fairing joint which have a recess into which you can place the flat blade of  a screwdriver and they simply pop out...there is another quick rivet located underneath the front lower fairing which can be opened as I described above

Maybe the securing  method  has been changed
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: StickyOne on March 08, 2017, 08:53:11 AM
Quote from: O.C. on March 07, 2017, 08:34:13 PM
They may have changed, but on mine there are two forward facing rivets (one above the other) on the lower front fairing joint which have a recess into which you can place the flat blade of  a screwdriver and they simply pop out...there is another quick rivet located underneath the front lower fairing which can be opened as I described above

Maybe the securing  method  has been changed

Yes they're the ones.
They are the same as mine.
I tried the tactic of prising off with a screwdriver, but you know how it is when it doesn't release as you expect it to, you wonder if you are doing it right and whether if you carry on if you're gonna break the bloody thing!
I can't say I find the pdf workshop manual very explicit.
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: O.C. on March 08, 2017, 09:17:34 AM
I checked mine out as I was worried that I'd left the wrong info, TBH the two forward facing stud clips opened extremely easily, if you lie under the bike with a torch you will see how they attach....a bit like a rawlpug idea ...well sort of  :wink:     
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: PRD on March 08, 2017, 12:16:03 PM
God knows what he is doing to my poor old bike!!
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: StickyOne on March 08, 2017, 03:34:30 PM
Quote from: PRD on March 08, 2017, 12:16:03 PM
God knows what he is doing to my poor old bike!!

Stripping it for spares Pete!
Title: Re: Front Turn Signal Bulb Replacement
Post by: Tynesidebob on May 13, 2020, 01:50:40 AM
Thanks for the info.
Just changed mine for LEDs so I hopefully won't have to do that again.