Hi folks :smiley:
My next job on my "to do" list is fitting the two Stebel horns I removed from my ZZR before p/x it.
Anyone fitted these or similar horns?
The standard horn on these big bikes are pathetic at best! :angry:
Don't need horns, going to quick to have the opportunity to blast anybody.
😀
I fitted PIAA to mine bloody loverly deep mellow toot :mfr_lol: oh, and easy installation too.
Like these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIAA-Motorsport-Twin-Horn-Kit-Slim-Two-Tone-Sports-Electric-Slender-Horns-H012-/381755454922?hash=item58e265f5ca:g:zbMAAOSwFdtXyCHn
Well ... I myself didn't fit it as some on here will know too well of my DIY incompetance, but my friendly K dealer did so and it was a Stebel ... the result ? Fantastic. You are right to say that for such a big bike the horn was pathetic :sad:
Sound bomb on mine. Really good.
Quote from: O.C. on February 04, 2017, 08:51:15 PM
I fitted PIAA to mine bloody loverly deep mellow toot :mfr_lol: oh, and easy installation too.
Like these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIAA-Motorsport-Twin-Horn-Kit-Slim-Two-Tone-Sports-Electric-Slender-Horns-H012-/381755454922?hash=item58e265f5ca:g:zbMAAOSwFdtXyCHn
Those look nice :yes: whereabouts on yours are they fitted?
I also fitted the PIAA ones as OC says easy job.
Used the same standard bracket and with the wire that comes with them made the horn link just needed the crimps which I bought for penny's of E-Bay
A wiring diagram below showsthe stebel horns description it's the same for the PIAA.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/anthonyprosser/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/F44FF6BF-29DE-4ABF-8907-17AF84CA226F_zpsbuusbnqq.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/anthonyprosser/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/F44FF6BF-29DE-4ABF-8907-17AF84CA226F_zpsbuusbnqq.jpg.html)
Silly question. Does the GTR have twin horns? There are no relays then?
Quote from: Kylinski on February 05, 2017, 10:57:01 AM
Silly question. Does the GTR have twin horns? There are no relays then?
No mate a single horn just in front and above the radiator on a horse shoe shaped bracket that's why it's an easy change holes are in the bracket for the twin horns a single fixing bolt hole use the original wiring to the new horn and make a link to the second horn
Quote from: O.C. on February 04, 2017, 08:51:15 PM
I fitted PIAA to mine bloody loverly deep mellow toot :mfr_lol: oh, and easy installation too.
Like these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIAA-Motorsport-Twin-Horn-Kit-Slim-Two-Tone-Sports-Electric-Slender-Horns-H012-/381755454922?hash=item58e265f5ca:g:zbMAAOSwFdtXyCHn
These Loki the same just branded differently and cheaper
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-WRC-39-8mm-12V-Dual-Twin-Tone-Car-Slender-Snail-Horn-Set-Kit-112dB-500-400Hz-/252699710008?_trkparms=aid%253D222007%2526algo%253DSIC.MBE%2526ao%253D1%2526asc%253D20150519202351%2526meid%253Dc65a4866248c43f8bede020dd909d8cc%2526pid%253D100408%2526rk%253D2%2526rkt%253D10%2526sd%253D331536958461&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460
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Quote from: Kylinski on February 05, 2017, 10:20:36 AM
Those look nice :yes: whereabouts on yours are they fitted?
they fitted onto the existing mounting :yes:
Quote from: pross on February 05, 2017, 10:21:53 AM
I also fitted the PIAA ones as OC says easy job.
Used the same standard bracket and with the wire that comes with them made the horn link just needed the crimps which I bought for penny's of E-Bay
A wiring diagram below showsthe stebel horns description it's the same for the PIAA.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/anthonyprosser/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/F44FF6BF-29DE-4ABF-8907-17AF84CA226F_zpsbuusbnqq.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/anthonyprosser/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/F44FF6BF-29DE-4ABF-8907-17AF84CA226F_zpsbuusbnqq.jpg.html)
:agree: :yes: :clap:
Cheers all 👍 Seems much better than finding a mounting spot for Stebels then wiring in relays etc.
Quote from: mikeyw64 on February 05, 2017, 11:56:56 AM
These Loki the same just branded differently and cheaper
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-WRC-39-8mm-12V-Dual-Twin-Tone-Car-Slender-Snail-Horn-Set-Kit-112dB-500-400Hz-/252699710008?_trkparms=aid%253D222007%2526algo%253DSIC.MBE%2526ao%253D1%2526asc%253D20150519202351%2526meid%253Dc65a4866248c43f8bede020dd909d8cc%2526pid%253D100408%2526rk%253D2%2526rkt%253D10%2526sd%253D331536958461&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460
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Please excuse my idiotic question but do you need any relays with these or can you just fit extra wires in to the existing horn wiring for these to work ?? (I'm an electrical dunce)
no relays on mine :clap:
Meant to ask, are they as LOOOUUUD as Stebels?
Quote from: Kylinski on February 20, 2017, 11:47:55 PM
Meant to ask, are they as LOOOUUUD as Stebels?
The PIAA are nice and loud :clap: similar to a car horn not sure about the comparison to stebels never fitted them
Quote from: pross on February 21, 2017, 09:27:21 AM
The PIAA are nice and loud :clap: similar to a car horn not sure about the comparison to stebels never fitted them
:agree: its a bit like comparing a squeeky peeeep to a classy PAAARP :yes:
Quote from: davetherave on February 20, 2017, 05:43:40 PM
Please excuse my idiotic question but do you need any relays with these or can you just fit extra wires in to the existing horn wiring for these to work ?? (I'm an electrical dunce)
The original horn has a relay but it's "upstream" (closer to the horn fuse/battery) than the connectors that clip onto the horn. So no, you dont need an additional relay for these. You can wire the two together as shown here - in electricians parlance is called "wiring the two in parallel". Each horn will see half the total available circuit current, but if the mechanics of the replacement horn are better than the shitty original, then you end up with a better sound. As others have posted though, it will never be as good as the air horns (which seem like a dog to mount on the GTR and draw even more current - that's why they need a separate relay).
Quote from: O.C. on February 04, 2017, 08:51:15 PM
I fitted PIAA to mine bloody loverly deep mellow toot :mfr_lol: oh, and easy installation too.
Like these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIAA-Motorsport-Twin-Horn-Kit-Slim-Two-Tone-Sports-Electric-Slender-Horns-H012-/381755454922?hash=item58e265f5ca:g:zbMAAOSwFdtXyCHn
Ordered these today. According to the specs, they're the same db level as Stebels at 115 db.
We'll see.
:help:
I've fitted my PIAA's this morning. Pressed horn button - Nothing!
Fuse is ok.
Wiring, as far as I can tell to diagram is ok. There is no colours on the wiring diagram, nor is there any + or - positive/negative on the horn terminals.
The instructions are in Japanese! :surrender:
The only thing I'm thinking of is that I have removed the Y bracket.
I don't have a voltage test meter so can't test anything!
I'm scratching my head here . . .
OK. Sorted now. :banana:
I refitted the Y bracket. Must have been acting as an earth.
Nice sound :yes:
Quote from: Kylinski on March 19, 2017, 02:28:17 PM
OK. Sorted now. :banana:
I refitted the Y bracket. Must have been acting as an earth.
Nice sound :yes:
I agree nice sound.
the only thing I added to mine was a piece of sticky backed waterproof foam between the horns as they are quite close only thinking about vibration :yes: