Kawasaki 1400 GTR

1400 GTR - All Models => 1400GTR Discussion => Topic started by: BigAlan on August 05, 2016, 08:22:57 PM

Title: Coolant change
Post by: BigAlan on August 05, 2016, 08:22:57 PM
So what's the pitfalls of changing the coolant on out bikes then? I read in the manual there are all sorts of bleeding pipes located everywhere but has anybody done it themselves?

And what's the opinion of putting the new fandangled waterless coolant in over the usual 50-50 split antifreeze stuff? The new stuff if your not sure has no water so does not pressure up a boiling point and I know a LOT of people using it in cars of all ages.

Ta.
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: Debs on August 05, 2016, 08:53:22 PM
How about this stuff Al..

http://www.madison.co.uk/products/motocross/engine-exhaust-components/coolant-hoses/hi-performance-engine-coolant-1-2-gallon-pack-of-4/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc1FDZL0FBU
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: Lonewolf on August 05, 2016, 09:09:15 PM
I changed the coolant in my 2007 GTR and to the best of my recollection it was easy.
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: Alfor on August 05, 2016, 09:10:30 PM
Did mine a few weeks ago. And had to take pretty much all of the fairings off. Good fun  :banana:d
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: BigAlan on August 05, 2016, 09:14:41 PM
Debs

That's mixed with deionised water, the stuff I am on about has no water content at all therefore does not boil.

Something like

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Product.do?method=view&n=5659&g=625786&p=625789&d=124&c=4&l=2&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Base&utm_campaign=Coolant&gclid=CIjMu_eKq84CFUoq0wodbqMOBA

But you have to prepare the engine first to clean out all the water. I know race teams use it and there is a lot lower pressure involved.
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: Lonewolf on August 05, 2016, 10:25:20 PM
Ive got some photos somewhere of the coolant exchange I'll dig them out tomorrow if you wish they may help give you an idea of how big the job is.
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: BigAlan on August 05, 2016, 11:10:08 PM
Would be useful, thanks.
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: Lonewolf on August 06, 2016, 12:43:45 PM
Alan, will do, I'll put them on this evening when I get home.
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: viper on August 06, 2016, 02:34:27 PM
I used the halford pink stuff OAT ready , 5 year life , its 50/50 . was easy to do , just run it a while and recheck and then check again after you have done your first ride .
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: PRD on August 06, 2016, 04:17:23 PM
Quote from: The Wolf on August 06, 2016, 12:43:45 PM
Alan, will do, I'll put them on this evening when I get home.
is it easier to do the coolant on BMW? Just wondered.
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: Lonewolf on August 07, 2016, 11:38:52 AM
Quote from: PRD on August 06, 2016, 04:17:23 PM
is it easier to do the coolant on BMW? Just wondered.


It would be yes as you would simply ride to the local BMW dealership and say, "I say old bean would you mind awfully changing my coolant while I partake in some of your free drinks which you offer to your customers". They would do the job and then you would hand over about two hundred pounds and you would ride away happy. Simples!  :whistling:
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: Lonewolf on August 07, 2016, 11:46:19 AM
I can't find the photos I had of my coolant change, I've found the old thread on here which was from 2011 but the images have been deleted so I probably deleted the photos at the same time off the PC.
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: BigAlan on August 07, 2016, 12:22:55 PM
Ok no worries.

I am removing the wheels next week to get powder coated, the forks to change the oil changed and will while the bike is laid up remove the fairings and see wha sort of job it is, pesky R&G bars will have to come off as well.
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: virginiajim on August 09, 2016, 12:46:50 PM
I typically use the Honda premixed stuff.   Had Kwackers do mine the last time.  Biggest thing to be careful of is don't undo the rad cap and then undo the drain bolt unless you like seeing something like an arterial bleed out.  Crack the cap slowly so you don't get splashed in the face.  Also don't lose the small drain bolt.  Don't ask me how I know this.  You can reuse the washer.   You'll have to remove the plastics on the right side to refill and refill slowly.  There isn't any air bleeds that I can remember.
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: BigAlan on August 09, 2016, 02:26:42 PM
Thanks for the info, I have a gallon of deionised water plus a gallon of engine ice coolant, I intend to flush th system truth first with normal water, then use the deionised water to secondary flush before filling very slowly with the engine ice coolant.

Well that's the plan anyway.

Alan
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: iamkwackers on August 09, 2016, 07:03:21 PM
Quote from: BigAlan on August 09, 2016, 02:26:42 PM
Thanks for the info, I have a gallon of deionised water plus a gallon of engine ice coolant, I intend to flush th system truth first with normal water, then use the deionised water to secondary flush before filling very slowly with the engine ice coolant.

Well that's the plan anyway.

Alan

Sounds like a plan....good luck, hope it all goes fluidly  :mfr_lol:  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: yager01 on September 11, 2016, 08:07:48 PM
Hello everybody. About one Month ago I bought My GTR 1400 (year 2008). I have changed everything but now I would like the Coolant too. I dont know how can I start the Job. Frist I bulit off the left side of My GTR. Now I see the  surge tank but I dont know where can let down the old Coolant from the motor and from the radiator...etc. I hope you can help me becuse it seem to this is a little bit different.. Sorry My english  :(
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: BigAlan on September 11, 2016, 08:48:46 PM
I have just done mine.

On the lower left of the bike where you can see the radiator pipes go is the water pump, big round alloy thing, the drain plug is at the bottom, be careful as if you have the radiator cap off it will rush out fast as mine did.

Somewhere on here is the workshop manual but if you can't find it let me know your email address and I will send you a copy.

Alan
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: yager01 on September 11, 2016, 09:03:57 PM
Quote from: BigAlan on September 11, 2016, 08:48:46 PM
I have just done mine.

On the lower left of the bike where you can see the radiator pipes go is the water pump, big round alloy thing, the drain plug is at the bottom, be careful as if you have the radiator cap off it will rush out fast as mine did.

Somewhere on here is the workshop manual but if you can't find it let me know your email address and I will send you a copy.

Alan
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Today I duilt off some side panel from My bike. But I think that I have off more because I dont see the water pump. Maybe I have to bulit off the black plastic from the bottom. There Will be the water pump. And where is the radiator cap? On the right side? And first I have to off the drain plug of the botton After this the radiator?
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: BigAlan on September 11, 2016, 10:21:47 PM
Yes lower black plastic on the left side has to come off, don't forget the two screws inside the plastic bit (Philips head) and you will see the radiator pipes going to the pump, radiator cap is on the right upper sid so that fairing has to come off as well.

It might look daunting but in reality once you have done it you realise it's easy.

Alan
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: yager01 on September 13, 2016, 07:19:18 PM
Today I changed the coolant my GTR. First I screw in the bolt the bottom of the water pump after this I filled in the coolant to the radiator. I filled the radiator full. After I filled coolant on the other side in to the surge tank among to min - max. I have started the engine and waiting. Everything was ok, the ventilator worked and the tempreatura was high but didn't happend nothing in the surge tank. I don't know that the termostat opened or did not. The level in the surge tank is same... What do you think? This is normal or not?
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: BigAlan on September 13, 2016, 10:12:10 PM
Sounds like it's fine to me, when I did mine I ran the engine until it was hot then switched off, I left it overnight and the next day when it was cold I undid the radiator cap and it was still full, the expansion tank was at the right level so that was fine.

I have done in excess of 500 miles since and all is exactly how it should be.

Alan
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: yager01 on September 14, 2016, 07:46:47 PM
Thank you for your help. Today I filled in about 0,5 dcl coolant. Tomorrow I will go to test :)  :clap:
Title: Re: Coolant change
Post by: keith on September 14, 2016, 08:49:41 PM
Quote from: BigAlan on August 05, 2016, 09:14:41 PM
Debs

That's mixed with deionised water, the stuff I am on about has no water content at all therefore does not boil.

Something like

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Product.do?method=view&n=5659&g=625786&p=625789&d=124&c=4&l=2&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Base&utm_campaign=Coolant&gclid=CIjMu_eKq84CFUoq0wodbqMOBA
  I saw an episode of wheeler dealers were ed china used the waterless coolant , like you said it does not boil at 100c ,he swore by it saying it was a good product ,I would have thought it would run the engine cooler aswell .
But you have to prepare the engine first to clean out all the water. I know race teams use it and there is a lot lower pressure involved.