Hi All,
I'm having a bit of an issue with screens, which is in danger of sending me mad and emptying my bank account......
The screen that came on the bike (std Kawasaki) was terrible for buffeting at speed, so I changed to a longer screen with a flip up that the last owner included in the sale. The longer screen was good for wind noise but still had quite a lot of buffeting unless I ducked my head a couple of inches. This was starting to give me a hunch so I got hold of a MRA Vario which still does it (but not as badly), no matter where I adjust the spoiler.
I'm 6' tall and need to know if there's a screen out there that'll let me travel at speed in comfort without looking like Quasimodo.....
For info, my last bike was a ZX9R with a double bubble and although there was a lot of wind blowing over my upper body it was a lot smoother and more comfortable
I swapped the standard screen for a Puig touring screen. Infinitely better, but I still have to duck slightly to avoid wind blast on the old skid lid. But I am 6'4" so not sure any screen would solve the problem for me entirely.
Cheers
Paul B.
Try calsci extra wide.
Took me Calsci extra wide off when I swapped helmets recently, if you want to try it pop up to Shropshire and try it for an hour!
i had 5 screens on my GTR and its all about size, forget the laminar lip and the wind tunnel designs, the only one that really works is the calsci XL .
as the americans say " no substitute for cubes "
stock, vario, vario touring, Puig and then the calsci ,
Try a short screen , you do not get buffeting or the flapping noise , just even wind pressure, if it rains heavy I just up the screen , you don't have these problems on naked bikes , it's only at high speed where the wind pressure gets to much ,
Quote from: viper on March 08, 2016, 08:53:24 PM
i had 5 screens on my GTR and its all about size, forget the laminar lip and the wind tunnel designs, the only one that really works is the calsci XL .
as the americans say " no substitute for size "
stock, vario, vario touring, Puig and then the calsci ,
Hey.. I have the Laminar Lip on mine and it works a treat.. :gun_bandana:
I use the std (2010 - slightly taller) screen on it's lowest setting. Only ever put it up if it rains.
My head is in the wind. The only thing I'd like is a wider screen in the winter to keep a little more cold air off my arms/shoulders.
I've never understood this desire to ride in some sort of wind free bubble (I've a car for that). On the Pan I did the same, screen down most of the time (a lot the issues/comments you see about the 'Pan weave' are down to people riding with sail up).
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I use the calsci xl wide. Looks like barn door but works. Suspect puts more strain on the brackets though but no prob yet.
Have a look at Eagle screens from Australia. They come in various sizes and tints. I had a custom one made up to 605 mm and it keeps me dry whilst offering little buffering. I'm 6 ft 3 ins tall and it suits me done to the ground.
Their website is worth checking out.
Cheers
Has anyone tried the new standard screen on the 2015 bike? I am intrigued about the effect that the window in the middle will have and whether it will help.
Quote from: Phill_York on March 09, 2016, 10:06:04 AM
Has anyone tried the new standard screen on the 2015 bike? I am intrigued about the effect that the window in the middle will have and whether it will help.
Yep.....I have it OEM fitted to my bike
It's larger and wider at the top and has 'letter box' type vent in the front to reduce buffeting, KHI quote says :-
"A vent added to the electronically adjustable windscreen reduces load on the rider by letting external air enter the cockpit area. With the vent open, the negative-pressure effect in the cockpit is reduced. This means less chance of the rider being pulled forward at high speed."
I haven't really put it to the test yet, but will be trying it out tomorrow when I'll be having a brew with me old e mate at Kawasaki Autorama ......oh and getting the bike serviced :mfr_lol:
On a previous GTR I fitted a Laminar Lip and it was good...............however I, like others, prefer not to ride within a cocooned environment :smiley:
Quote from: captain crap on March 09, 2016, 09:59:12 AM
Have a look at Eagle screens from Australia. They come in various sizes and tints. I had a custom one made up to 605 mm and it keeps me dry whilst offering little buffering. I'm 6 ft 3 ins tall and it suits me done to the ground.
Their website is worth checking out.
Cheers
Blimey C.C you've been quiet for a long time (about 18 months ) :mfr_lol:
Drop into the introduction/new members section and tell us a bit more about yourself :clap:
I have a Standard 2010 taller screen, a Calsci extra tall and wide and a laminar lip. But do you know what for me outperforms all of them? The spoiler off my Givi airflow AF330 which I've fitted to the standard 2010 screen! :mfr_lol:
I serviced the front bush on the electric screen mechanism to take any play out of it first mind.
Quote from: mister white on April 10, 2016, 09:01:59 PM
I have a Standard 2010 taller screen, a Calsci extra tall and wide and a laminar lip. But do you know what for me outperforms all of them? The spoiler off my Givi airflow AF330 which I've fitted to the standard 2010 screen! :mfr_lol:
I serviced the front bush on the electric screen mechanism to take any play out of it first mind.
interesting. ..very interesting.
Have you got any pictures
I ask because I had the excellent Givi Aer flow on a Versys 1000, its ugly but very effective, also because on my current latest model GTR the screen has been changed with the addition of a vent on the lower part of the screen, which I suppose is a nod towards the Givi Aerflow design. :yes:
Quote from: mister white on April 10, 2016, 09:01:59 PM
I have a Standard 2010 taller screen, a Calsci extra tall and wide and a laminar lip. But do you know what for me outperforms all of them? The spoiler off my Givi airflow AF330 which I've fitted to the standard 2010 screen! :mfr_lol:
I serviced the front bush on the electric screen mechanism to take any play out of it first mind.
If you have a pic of the AF / standard screen engineering would be greatly appreciated!
The Givi Air-Flows are the best ever! had one on a GS1200 and my Superten, fantastic for both me and Jen up back!
Had an original MRA vario fitted to my old (2002) Varadero, that was the same design as the Givi AF, before MRA went to the small flexi screen - never as good! :no:
If any Givi reps are out there - take note - AF needed for GTR's! :ohplease:
Living down under, I'm probably a bit bias. A great screen made here is from eaglescreens.com.au
I'm 6'3" and I had a custom one made.
After mucking around with cardboard cut-outs that were duct taped to the original screen (in order to gestimate the height that suited me), I had one made to 605mm which is between the touring and extended touring screens that are available. I have no trouble what soever in keeping dry and out of the wind and most important no buffering.
I have recently put an MRA screen on mine (Thanks Mark) and it works well for me. I am only 5-6" ( no shortarse comments please ) and I think thats where the differences are. Different screens for different heights,
Incidentally, our Blood bikes are all fitted with the OEM screen with the adjustable lip added to the top. The lip on one of them is now missing after the bike was dropped (not guilty) and its really awful to ride compared to the others. We will be replacing the missing one asap.
Unfortunately, screens will never be a one size fits all.
All the screens mentioned in previous messages are a little on the expensive to buy just to find that they are not any better than the origonal equipment. Try the cheaper option. I bought a tinted, taller screen from Skidmarx for £70 about 2 years ago. Works a treat and still going strong, made of thicker plastic than the OE. Give it a go.
Quote from: moayling on April 11, 2016, 11:58:34 AM
I have recently put an MRA screen on mine (Thanks Mark) and it works well for me. I am only 5-6" ( no shortarse comments please ) and I think thats where the differences are. Different screens for different heights,
Incidentally, our Blood bikes are all fitted with the OEM screen with the adjustable lip added to the top.
Are any of them equipped with the newer standard screen?
Hi everyone. Thanks for your interest in my Givi screen. I've been trying to upload some pics for some time but without success. I will keep trying :wacko:
Quote from: Biker Bugs on April 11, 2016, 08:32:10 PM
Are any of them equipped with the newer standard screen?
No, the newest 2 are on 14plates and don't have the cut outs in the screen.
I have just fitted MRA screen the taller one, I am five foot ten, and playing with the little wing thingy on top, has improved wind noise at high speed especially noticeable at the higher end of the bikes performance, plus its smoked and looks far better than standard screen.
Anybody changed the newer screen?
If so what with?
Quote from: Biker Bugs on April 13, 2016, 06:16:39 AM
Anybody changed the newer screen?
If so what with?
I'm guessing your screen is the vented version like mine, what do you think of its performance ?
Quote from: O.C. on April 13, 2016, 06:21:42 AM
I'm guessing your screen is the vented version like mine, what do you think of its performance ?
Yep I do.
Not that impressed with the wobble. but it does protect fairly well I guess.
not had it long tbh.
I've had the stock 08 screen but it wobbles your head back and forth. Terrible on the pillion rider. I've had the Kwackers tall screen. It's ok. I had the CB Euro and it was ok but I've settled in on the CB Ultra Tour Dome. I'll run the stock 08 in the summer at times so it's between the stock 08 and the CB Ultra with the CB being used 90% of the time. Get better gas mileage with the stock 08. Bear in mind that anything you do that affects posture (seat, bars, etc) can affect how the screen works with the bike.
Quote from: mister white on April 10, 2016, 09:01:59 PM
I have a Standard 2010 taller screen, a Calsci extra tall and wide and a laminar lip. But do you know what for me outperforms all of them? The spoiler off my Givi airflow AF330 which I've fitted to the standard 2010 screen! :mfr_lol:
I serviced the front bush on the electric screen mechanism to take any play out of it first mind.
Quote from: O.C. on April 10, 2016, 10:09:16 PM
interesting. ..very interesting.
Have you got any pictures
I ask because I had the excellent Givi Aer flow on a Versys 1000, its ugly but very effective, also because on my current latest model GTR the screen has been changed with the addition of a vent on the lower part of the screen, which I suppose is a nod towards the Givi Aerflow design. :yes:
I've been trying to upload photos of my Givi screen but the upload time keeps timing out. It may be that my broadband is too rubbish, I've even tried zipping the files.
Anyway, in brief, I serviced the electric screen mechanism to take out all play and wobble. Next I made a masking tape template for the holes to be drilled and very accurately marked out the standard fairing to fit the standard Givi AF330 mounting turrets. I carefully drilled the screen and fitted the turrets, then slid the air blade into position. These turrets are adjustable to give the blade about 100mm of adjustment and it can be locked into various positions.
The finished job actually looks factory, the blade seems to suit this bike better than the adventure bikes.
I tested the blade worked before I committed to drilling by taping it in position.
What is it like? I designed it so that my sweet spot is in the middle of the adjustment range, which for me is with the blade just proud of the top of the original screen. I also have the electric adjuster on position 3.
Buffeting and noise are greatly reduced, like they are when this blade is fitted to an adventure bike. It is not absolutely perfect, there is still some light wind noise. Like all screens, it cannot protect from crosswinds or turbulence following vans. For me, on a touring bike, its all about covering vast distances, quickly and comfortably and a good screen cuts down rider fatigue massively. My biggest day to date was 440miles and I was fresh enough to hit a bar afterwards thanks to a screen that works.
I have tested this screen at over 135mph and it is absolutely stable, the Calsci XL would be touching your forehead and the laminar whistles above 100mph. Good compromise I'd say. The bits are around £50 new on Ebay. :smiley:
Well done :clap:
Quote from: mister white on April 14, 2016, 10:33:38 PM
I have tested this screen at over 135mph and it is absolutely stable...
Honestly officer, he meant to say "...on the autobahns in Germany." :smiley:
Cheers
Paul B.
Err, indeed- On my way to Munich! :whistling:
Hi, I am going to replace my Calsci XL back to the OEM as I am removing the risers from the handlebars for a trial period. Never ridden the bike as it came from factory as the risers were already fitted.
The only problem I have is that the fasteners for the screen have been burred by a monkey boy, (Not me!) and I need to replace them with new ones.
Could anyone tell me where to source them from( the fasteners) please?
many Thanks
OB
The thread is m4 length about 12 mm I changed mine for s/'s socket heads .
Has anyone used the Vstream on the GTR ? I had that on the FJR was good quality and work perfectly no buffeting and when fully raised peace and quiet.
The one on mine is the standard screen so guess to start with I will have see how it goes.
Thanks Charley Farly, that helps, I'm on it now.
Quote from: Charlie farley on May 16, 2016, 10:21:52 AM
The thread is m4 length about 12 mm I changed mine for s/'s socket heads .
Very sorry that should have been m5 thread not m4 if you can wait and are going to the doo I can bring you 4 ,
Charlie
Thats ok I found the parts diagram and sussed it out ta. Have found a supplier. Hope to pop in to the do, its local to me, have a sherbet with you all,
cheers,
OB
well i have just done 1590 odd miles with mra screen and i have discovered that at high speed with it raised i get a serious weave with screen raised dropping it solves the problem also with the little screen raised above the main screen at over 90 it shakes a lot below its fine, i am in florence mugello tomorrow and valentino is pole :clap: life is good :tank:
Enjoy :punk:
After not being happy with screen and buffering on my model 2010, i fitted after many doubts this week the touring xcreen from mra.
Ough... At last i am very happy with it !
Pity i didnt put it before.
My gtr girlie is a great bike, but couldnt find a solution for the only issue i had with this bike, coming from a big bmw tourer with a large windscreen, ie never had issues with wind or buffering on those...
Today i went for a 300 kms ride in france, and there are many possibilities with this extension, so can find with every speed the perfect solution !
Great thing that !
Hope if you have any doubts you can decide faster than me to find the better solution for you , without changing the looks of this great bike a lot...
Good luck
:punk: