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Title: Horse meat crisis
Post by: 100milesaway on January 17, 2013, 06:43:58 PM
Today I ordered a burger in a tesco cafe and the waitress asked if I wanted anything on it, so I had a fiver each way.
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: alibx11 on January 17, 2013, 07:12:44 PM
That'll make up part of your stable diet...
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: 100milesaway on January 17, 2013, 07:19:11 PM
I wondered why I kept getting the  trots.              :smiley:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: viper on January 17, 2013, 07:32:47 PM
My LIDL pony , hahahaha
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Lonewolf on January 17, 2013, 07:37:49 PM
Shocking news. Tesco own brand value hamburgers have been found to have traces of real MEAT in them.

Horse meet in Tesco burgers!! Its been in there furlong time!

HSE confirm that all those who ate horseburgers are in a stable condition.

Just found some out of date burgers " and they're off!"

Two Tesco burgers please.. hold the dressage"

Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: patrick on January 17, 2013, 09:15:23 PM
Tomorrow they introduce their new burger range:

The new children s "My Little Pony" Burger and the man size "Shergar Megga Burger"!
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: SirToU on January 17, 2013, 09:38:42 PM
Sorry - I had to steal this!

Neil
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: viper on January 17, 2013, 09:50:38 PM
check this out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP45TwOqSjU
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on January 17, 2013, 09:58:46 PM
We've all been taken for a 'ride'  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: 100milesaway on January 17, 2013, 10:31:27 PM
Tesco are opening new stores in, Doncaster, Ascot, Uttoxeter, Ripon, Catterick, Thirsk, Epsom, Aintree, and Wetherby
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: patrick on January 17, 2013, 10:33:20 PM
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Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Lonewolf on January 17, 2013, 10:44:15 PM
Patrick, now that was funny.  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Winston Smith on January 17, 2013, 11:16:21 PM
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Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Ubertours on January 18, 2013, 05:37:52 AM
Have you tried Tesco meatballs. the're the dogs bollocks!
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on January 18, 2013, 05:39:33 AM
Quote from: Ubertours on January 18, 2013, 05:37:52 AM
Have you tried Tesco meatballs. the're the dogs bollocks!

:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on January 18, 2013, 05:40:22 AM
Quote from: Winston Smith on January 17, 2013, 11:16:21 PM
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r183/Hoody_photo/12629_401831409905091_1483907867_n_zpsaf0ca09a.jpg)

:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on January 18, 2013, 06:16:06 AM
What a load of bollocks... hahaha

Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: stoketim on January 18, 2013, 08:56:57 AM
some Tesco stores in Essex are selling burgers---- Quarter pandars
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Boomer on January 18, 2013, 12:42:13 PM
I dunno what all the fuss is about.
I like horse. Cheaper than beef and just as tasty.

People are hypocrites.
They will eat ickle fwuffy lambywamies and buuywabbits but get upset because they think they might be eating the loser from the 2:30 at Chepstow.
Worse is that the don't mind feeding it to their pets, so long as we don't tell them.

In Belgium and France horsemeat is in all the supermarkets and butchers and costs around 2/3 of the cost of beef.
The horses are bred and raised for meat, not for racing.
Trying to eat a racehorse would be like trying to digest Cordura.
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: O.C. on January 18, 2013, 02:35:49 PM
Good point George, but my guess is that customers  were under the impression that the meat they were buying was Bovine not  Equine.

I've never tasted Horse meat BTW  :no: 
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: coman37 on January 18, 2013, 03:09:09 PM
Not knowingly anyway !!!!

Coman
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Winston Smith on January 18, 2013, 03:30:48 PM
Eaten it and it's just another meat.

I think the bollox is because it isn't declared!  So what - not gonna hurt you is it?!

Never heard of mad horse disease...
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on January 18, 2013, 06:06:06 PM
 :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: 100milesaway on January 18, 2013, 08:00:49 PM
Quote from: Winston Smith on January 18, 2013, 03:30:48 PM
Eaten it and it's just another meat.

I think the bollox is because it isn't declared!  So what - not gonna hurt you is it?!

Never heard of mad horse disease...
Ye but if ya buy beef, ya dont want a bloody horse do ya?.
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: O.C. on January 18, 2013, 08:08:47 PM
Quote from: 100milesaway on January 18, 2013, 08:00:49 PM
Ye but if ya buy beef, ya dont a bloody horse do ya?.

:agree:  Its not the eating of horse meat that's the issue its buying one product and unwittingly being sold another.....naturally some folk wont like the idea of eating dobbin, personally I'd give it a go   :yes:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: patrick on January 18, 2013, 08:40:16 PM
I once was very close to ordering a dobbin burger in france.... but my other half pointed out the translation!!
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: virginiajim on January 19, 2013, 12:41:37 AM
Well, it's finally hit the papers over here.  Big news indeed.
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Boomer on January 21, 2013, 03:11:29 PM
If yer buying a BUDGET beefburger then you should expect it to contain other stuff.
I'm amazed that it had any beef in it at all.
That said, Beefburgers contain all kinds of stuff, and are only required to contain something like 60% beef.
Perhaps I should sue McDonalds as they sell a Hamburger and theres no  :censored: Ham in it!

Lets be honest, the only people who really give a  :censored: are the horsey community who are devastated to realise that they have been riding a stupid skittish cow with cute eyes for all these years. Bring on the QuarterHorseBurger, and I'll have some minced Mutton and a nice medallion of grilled Hedgehog while I'm at it.
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on January 21, 2013, 03:15:26 PM
Quote from: Boomer on January 21, 2013, 03:11:29 PM
If yer buying a BUDGET beefburger then you should expect it to contain other stuff.
I'm amazed that it had any beef in it at all.
That said, Beefburgers contain all kinds of stuff, and are only required to contain something like 60% beef.
Perhaps I should sue McDonalds as they sell a Hamburger and theres no  :censored: Ham in it!

Lets be honest, the only people who really give a  :censored: are the horsey community who are devastated to realise that they have been riding a stupid skittish cow with cute eyes for all these years. Bring on the QuarterHorseBurger, and I'll have some minced Mutton and a nice medallion of grilled Hedgehog while I'm at it.

:agree:

How about a Rat Burger  :yes:  Sly had one in Demolition Man  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Winston Smith on January 21, 2013, 03:56:53 PM
Quote from: Boomer on January 21, 2013, 03:11:29 PM
If yer buying a BUDGET beefburger then you should expect it to contain other stuff.
I'm amazed that it had any beef in it at all.
That said, Beefburgers contain all kinds of stuff, and are only required to contain something like 60% beef.
Perhaps I should sue McDonalds as they sell a Hamburger and theres no  :censored: Ham in it!

Lets be honest, the only people who really give a  :censored: are the horsey community who are devastated to realise that they have been riding a stupid skittish cow with cute eyes for all these years. Bring on the QuarterHorseBurger, and I'll have some minced Mutton and a nice medallion of grilled Hedgehog while I'm at it.

:stupid:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: patrick on January 21, 2013, 07:23:00 PM
Tesco car park was a bit congested today!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-HGeEjja75Nk/UP2U1Jf6NsI/AAAAAAAAArU/-ZlrIkRK_OE/s500/stobart%2520at%2520tesco%2520copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on January 22, 2013, 05:03:06 PM
 :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: patrick on January 22, 2013, 10:55:40 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rEGuJ7bE8CM/UP8YIfRy5dI/AAAAAAAAAr0/uQvosOnnYlg/s500/stobart%2520at%2520tesco%25202.jpg)

....and finally the truck was unloaded!
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on February 08, 2013, 08:26:42 PM
Oh dear its never ending  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: patrick on February 08, 2013, 09:04:41 PM
More choice now at Tesco

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nTSoYXtjulE/URVn89FVpPI/AAAAAAAAAwQ/xwhZwsFEvaY/s500/stobart%2520at%2520tesco%2520no%25202%2520copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on February 09, 2013, 03:35:21 PM
Racist cows.. Whatever next  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:

Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on February 09, 2013, 04:21:06 PM
And another funny one....  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:

Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: O.C. on February 09, 2013, 05:24:05 PM
 :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on February 09, 2013, 09:34:14 PM
 :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:

Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: patrick on February 09, 2013, 09:44:53 PM
and now there are redundancies as a result of the use of horse meat!!

some very sad cows!

(http://images.ephotozine.com/gallery/2013/05/normal/51094_1360358523.jpg)
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: 100milesaway on February 09, 2013, 10:32:34 PM
Quote from: Debs on February 09, 2013, 09:34:14 PM
:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Debs, You crack me up :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Silverback on February 10, 2013, 12:47:47 AM

A message just in from Shergar on behalf of all the kidnapped horses out there, it just says 'Findus.....'


If you think the Tesco Value Beef/Horse burgers were bad, you should try their Quarter Panda's

Sorry.........................
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on February 10, 2013, 05:21:51 PM
This should clear up any confusion..  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:

Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: patrick on February 10, 2013, 08:34:44 PM
Quote from: Silverback on February 10, 2013, 12:47:47 AM



If you think the Tesco Value Beef/Horse burgers were bad, you should try their Quarter Panda's

Sorry.........................


Quarter pandas have just been delivered


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OhzJKDr70gM/URgCypp66qI/AAAAAAAAAww/dPbPWza5vAw/s500/stobart%2520at%2520tesco%2520no%25203%2520copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on February 10, 2013, 09:49:11 PM
 :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:

Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: patrick on February 10, 2013, 09:52:02 PM
that tesco pic will look like noah's ark before long!
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: 100milesaway on February 10, 2013, 10:48:03 PM
My doctor said that I had to watch what I eat, so I've just bought some tickets for the Grand national.
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on February 11, 2013, 09:53:49 AM
Quote from: 100milesaway on February 10, 2013, 10:48:03 PM
My doctor said that I had to watch what I eat, so I've just bought some tickets for the Grand national.

:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on February 11, 2013, 09:54:46 AM
 :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:

Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: 100milesaway on February 11, 2013, 10:52:22 AM
last night I ordered some burgers of the Tesco website, and then clicked     !!   Add to cart.  !!   
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on February 11, 2013, 12:09:18 PM
Quote from: 100milesaway on February 11, 2013, 10:52:22 AM
last night I ordered some burgers of the Tesco website, and then clicked     !!   Add to cart.  !!   

:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: O.C. on February 11, 2013, 06:06:38 PM
 :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: was that a joke told on the hoof,
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Winston Smith on February 11, 2013, 06:25:25 PM
Have you seen how much cheese Findus put on their ready meals?

It's Mask-A-Pony.....
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: 100milesaway on February 11, 2013, 10:10:36 PM
Me and my good lady went for a meal at a local restaurant, the waiter asked how I would like my steak cooking, so I told him   !!   " Good to firm  "  !!
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on February 11, 2013, 11:17:56 PM
Quote from: 100milesaway on February 11, 2013, 10:10:36 PM
Me and my good lady went for a meal at a local restaurant, the waiter asked how I would like my steak cooking, so I told him   !!   " Good to firm  "  !!

:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: coman37 on February 12, 2013, 12:06:55 AM
You should have ordered the Filly Mignon

Coman
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: O.C. on February 12, 2013, 07:44:12 AM
Quote from: 100milesaway on February 11, 2013, 10:10:36 PM
Me and my good lady went for a meal at a local restaurant, the waiter asked how I would like my steak cooking, so I told him   !!   " Good to firm  "  !!

LMAO  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: patrick on February 12, 2013, 10:47:37 PM
These dishes were served to London 2012 volunteers and described as FOOD. The gov't has launched an inquiry!



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Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: O.C. on February 13, 2013, 08:36:01 AM
Is that Rhubarb crumble and custard I see there....mmmmmm yum yum   :clap:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Lonewolf on February 13, 2013, 11:40:59 AM
It's gets worse......


B & Q have just had to withdraw all their wooden flooring range.....apparently it's got lamb in it.
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: O.C. on February 13, 2013, 03:08:52 PM
 :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:very good Steve,..........it took me a few moments till the penny dropped...DOH
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Lonewolf on February 13, 2013, 03:11:05 PM
Quote from: olde coney on February 13, 2013, 03:08:52 PM
:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:very good Steve,..........it took me a few moments till the penny dropped...DOH

Geoff's got no chance then has he?  :whistling:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: O.C. on February 13, 2013, 03:12:13 PM
oooo... risky, I'm saying nowt  :whistling:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Lonewolf on February 13, 2013, 04:31:25 PM
Quote from: olde coney on February 13, 2013, 03:12:13 PM
oooo... risky, I'm saying nowt  :whistling:


But clearly you agree!  :innocent:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Winston Smith on February 13, 2013, 11:19:09 PM
Summat to wash your 'oss burger down with..

(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r183/Hoody_photo/tescolager_zps137bb3a1.jpg)
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on February 13, 2013, 11:48:49 PM
I got a bad splinter from a packet of wagon wheels too... :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: 100milesaway on February 14, 2013, 08:35:55 PM
I knew I should't have had that burger, I've been on the bog all night with !!  The Trots  !!
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on February 14, 2013, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: 100milesaway on February 14, 2013, 08:35:55 PM
I knew I should't have had that burger, I've been on the bog all night with !!  The Trots  !!

:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:

Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: 100milesaway on February 14, 2013, 09:01:03 PM
Oh Debs,  Happy Valentines day  :flowers: :001_icon16: :wub: :tt1: :kiss: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on February 14, 2013, 09:57:57 PM
Quote from: 100milesaway on February 14, 2013, 09:01:03 PM
Oh Debs,  Happy Valentines day  :flowers: :001_icon16: :wub: :tt1: :kiss: :mfr_lol:

Oh thank you (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_6338.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/)
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: 100milesaway on February 15, 2013, 12:37:55 PM
If massive world wide companys such as Tesco,  Findus and lots of others are caught up in the the horse meat crisis, and most of us not knowing what the hell they are selling us, does it not make you wonder what we are being served up by the many thousands of take aways, that seem to be dotted on every street corner in all of our towns and citys. I for one will be avoiding them like the plague.
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: O.C. on February 15, 2013, 01:29:33 PM
Quote from: 100milesaway on February 15, 2013, 12:37:55 PM
If massive world wide companys such as Tesco,  Findus and lots of others are caught up in the the horse meat crisis, and most of us not knowing what the hell they are selling us, does it not make you wonder what we are being served up by the many thousands of take aways, that seem to be dotted on every street corner in all of our towns and citys. I for one will be avoiding them like the plague.

I think a dose of the plague would be preferable to some of the  :shit: that is  sold in those places Geoff, that Kebab stuff looks like a lump of   :shit:  anyway  :mfr_lol:   
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Lonewolf on February 15, 2013, 01:52:48 PM
Hey by eck, you can't beat a doner kebab with salad, (not to much mind)  :mfr_lol: and some spicy chilli sauce after 15 pints of scrumpy down the local ale house.
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Kwikasfuki on February 15, 2013, 02:02:47 PM

The big supermarkets are always looking to increase margins by squeezing suppliers. The supply chain is so long that food contamination can occur with relative ease. Add in the cost of doing DNA checks, the suppliers won't be able to deliver at the costs the supermarkets demand. I bet its not only at the value end either. Some of those premium products will also be contaminated.

And then there's the Government who don't know their elbow from their arse.

I have a mate who used to be a big meat eater until he saw the food chain. The feed to chickens to force them to grow was enough. We now try and source as much locally and I have tried to go more veggie this year

Quote from: Lonewolf on February 15, 2013, 01:52:48 PM
Hey by eck, you can't beat a doner kebab with salad, (not to much mind)  :mfr_lol: and some spicy chilli sauce after 15 pints of scrumpy down the local ale house.

Tastes nice I admit, but I won't be having one for a loooooooooooooooooooooong time!
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: 100milesaway on February 15, 2013, 04:45:41 PM
Quote from: Lonewolf on February 15, 2013, 01:52:48 PM
Hey by eck, you can't beat a doner kebab with salad, (not to much mind)  :mfr_lol: and some spicy chilli sauce after 15 pints of scrumpy down the local ale house.
Steven, you obviously have scant regard for your bodies inner workings. Therefore you must inform your wife not to be too shocked at you early demise, after feeding your body all that  :shit: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: viper on February 15, 2013, 09:55:42 PM
im expecting to see Cows running at royal ascot this year as they may be all out of horses, the 3.30 could be an interesting race
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on February 15, 2013, 10:00:09 PM
Im going to start using soya mince from now on for when i make Spag Bol  :yes:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: stoketim on February 16, 2013, 09:48:07 AM
soya mince really? god know whats in that  :shit: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: O.C. on February 16, 2013, 11:32:28 AM
Debs, just buy BRITISH beef at your local butchers  :yes:.....sorted  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Debs on February 16, 2013, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: stoketim on February 16, 2013, 09:48:07 AM
soya mince really? god know whats in that  :shit: :popcorn:

Soya mince, often called soy mince, or soy ground beef, is a product made out of textured vegetable protein. It is textured and shaped to resemble mince, or ground beef, and is usually colored and seasoned so that the look and flavor of the soy product is the similar to that of beef. A versatile food, soya mince can be used in any recipe that calls for ground beef or any other type of ground meat, making the dish suitable for vegetarians or vegans and reducing the fat and calories of traditional dishes.

There is no  :shit: in it  :nono:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: mecki on February 16, 2013, 02:07:35 PM
Quote from: olde coney on February 16, 2013, 11:32:28 AM
Debs, just buy BRITISH beef at your local butchers  :yes:.....sorted  :popcorn:

And where does the local butcher gets his meat from?
I doubt that he buys live animals and kills them himself.
So he buys his meat from a wholesaler like everybody else.
And where does the meat wholesale company get their meat from?   :whistling:
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: mecki on February 16, 2013, 02:21:51 PM
Quote from: Debs on February 16, 2013, 01:59:37 PM
There is no  :shit: in it  :nono:

How do you know? After all you're talking about artificial meat and there could be anything (including real meat) in it.
Most likely at least genetically modified soy beans from god only knows where from since they don't grow those over here and hell knows what else.  :yes:

Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Lonewolf on February 16, 2013, 03:00:40 PM
Mecki, there are many local farm shops near to where I live and indeed farm shops are scattered in most villages and small towns. What they sell is local produce and in some cases they raise, slaughter, prepare, and sell their produce. A chap on my team at work lives on his fathers farm and they do just that. I've had many a succulent steak from local farm shops whilst on holiday in Scotland, Cornwall, Lincolnshire etc and it tastes totally different from the equivalent at Morrison's and is well worth the extra you'll pay for it. 


Alternatively buy from the local butcher.
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: coman37 on February 16, 2013, 05:01:23 PM
I think the idea when buying from the local butcher is that you can see the unrefined meat and often the bone it is attached to. Any good butcher can tell which animal it comes from by the colour and texture.

ps, I agree with Mecki about the soya stuff, You could be eating horse as well, just cos its says its soya doesn't mean it is (tastes like beef, looks like beef, where have we heard that before?????)


Coman
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: O.C. on February 16, 2013, 05:14:18 PM
Quote from: Lonewolf on February 16, 2013, 03:00:40 PM
Mecki, there are many local farm shops near to where I live and indeed farm shops are scattered in most villages and small towns. What they sell is local produce and in some cases they raise, slaughter, prepare, and sell their produce. A chap on my team at work lives on his fathers farm and they do just that. I've had many a succulent steak from local farm shops whilst on holiday in Scotland, Cornwall, Lincolnshire etc and it tastes totally different from the equivalent at Morrison's and is well worth the extra you'll pay for it. 


Alternatively buy from the local butcher.

Correct Steve, it seems that some folk are unaware of this fact, the lamb from my local butcher is actually grazing in the field in front of my house as I'm typing this  :yes:

I know where my produce comes from, even the eggs I buy are from a local farmer and If I want i'm sure he'd let me sit and watch them being laid

It's amazing that some people can be so thick as to assume that everything has to be sourced at a supermarket 
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: Winston Smith on February 16, 2013, 06:12:37 PM
We do use the supermarket, Asda, Morrisons etc. for convenience.  Tend to get mince from M&S.  Don't really give a toss what's in it to be honest, it's only an issue in this country with all the dobbin lovers - and yes I know about the 'oss drug issues, but who knows what the moo-moo's have been given as there seems to be no real testing of the meats we eat.

The media have made this 'scandal' into one.  Most folk I speak to think it's all a big fuss over nothing.

Re local butchers, the one I tend to use goes to the slaughter house and selects his meat at that source.  He doesn't deal in 'oss!
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: mecki on February 16, 2013, 06:59:03 PM
Quote from: olde coney on February 16, 2013, 05:14:18 PM
Correct Steve, it seems that some folk are unaware of this fact, the lamb from my local butcher is actually grazing in the field in front of my house as I'm typing this  :yes:

I know where my produce comes from, even the eggs I buy are from a local farmer and If I want i'm sure he'd let me sit and watch them being laid

It's amazing that some people can be so thick as to assume that everything has to be sourced at a supermarket 

In every civilized country (afaik at least since BSE in the UK too) it is strictly prohibited to sell meat from home kills.
All animals killed for meat have to be slaughtered in approved and controlled abattoirs. There are very strict rules and high penalties in place for non compliance. So your local butcher or farmer is either breaking the law if he actually sells meat from a home kill or is telling lies where the meat comes from.

That doesn't mean that a farmer can't have his own animals slaughtered in an abattoir and then take the carcasses home. But like many other products sold in farm shops a lot of it comes from the same market or wholesaler the supermarkets buy their produce from. You just pay more for it.  :ohplease:

I used to own a beef farm with 50 breeding cows in New Zealand so I know what I am talking about. It would have been impossible to sell meat from my own animals on a daily basis all year round since you only sell them once they are ready for slaughter. And normally that happens within a very short period. If your calving season is 3 months in Winter all your calves will be ready for slaughter 18 or if you feed only grass 24 months later also within 3 months and the rest of the year you would have to buy meat from the abattoir if you wanted to sell it in a farm shop.

But if you know how a good piece of meat is supposed to look like then you can source it nearly everywhere. And as far as beef is concerned the most important thing is ageing and then how you cook it. If you prefer your steak well-done then it doesn't really matter where the meat came from - it's ruined anyway.
Of course the cheap cuts sold in the bargain chiller at Morrisons or Asda are normally old dairy cow, tough as an old boot and taste accordingly. But you can also source well-aged prime Angus in supermarkets like Waitrose if you are willing to pay a few bob more.
By the way the best beef is from a heifer that just had her first calf not from steers or bulls.
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: O.C. on February 16, 2013, 09:10:52 PM
Using my post as a quote in order to support your supposition about "home kills" basically demonstrates the weakness of your argument.

The  local farmer who I used as a reference happens to be a good pal (and biker  :yes:) he sends his animals to a professional/licensed local abattoir for slaughter before he presents the meat for sale, it is extremely unlikely that he is breaking any law in this connection. I have every confidence in him and his produce.

I am aware that abattoirs have to comply with government guidelines, there are several such facilities in this area, as indeed I know there are in many rural environments.

I am not sufficiently informed enough to be able to quote the laws that apply in New Zealand past or present with regard to this subject ~ so I wont.

I've always accepted that the cooking of any meat is down to individual choice and preference.
Title: Re: Horse meat crisis
Post by: mecki on February 17, 2013, 10:33:51 AM
Quote from: olde coney on February 16, 2013, 09:10:52 PM
Using my post as a quote in order to support your supposition about "home kills" basically demonstrates the weakness of your argument.

I am not sufficiently informed enough to be able to quote the laws that apply in New Zealand past or present with regard to this subject ~ so I wont.

You either didn't read my post or you didn't want to understand it.  :surrender:
It has nothing to do with laws in New Zealand but with animal farming in general.
And since you talk about lamb in your post it is the same story as with beef.
In a climate like the UK as a farmer you just cannot sell your own fresh lamb every day all year round.
To do that you would have to have ewes lambing all year and not just in spring.  :smartass: