Kawasaki 1400 GTR

1400 GTR - All Models => Accessories, Farkels and Mods => Topic started by: Teacher on November 03, 2012, 08:31:51 AM

Title: Which Hugger?
Post by: Teacher on November 03, 2012, 08:31:51 AM
Apologies first as  Iknow this will have been asked before. But which hugger would anyone recommend and does anyone have any pics they can post?
My bike is blue, so I guess I would have to get a black one or maybe carbon look

Thanks
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: Martin#30 on November 03, 2012, 08:39:23 AM
I am planning on getting the £130 Skidmarx carbon one in the next couple of weeks. People who have this particular hugger have given good feedback about fitment and quality.

If you fancied the same, might be worth calling them and see if they will do a group discount.

Martin.
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: BigAlan on November 03, 2012, 08:44:22 AM
I have the skidmarx one in black on the best colour bike which as we know is black, fits excellent and looks good.

Alan
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: alibx11 on November 03, 2012, 09:32:13 AM
I just fitted a Pyramid plastics one to my bike this week and can recommend that, £89 and fitted well, 2 brackets, one either side, no drilling, plain black and gives good coverage .. didn't take any pictures of it but here's the link to their website picture...

http://www.pyramid-plastics.co.uk/catalog/images/073870B_GTR1400_HUGGER_BLACK_1(Medium).JPG
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: O.C. on November 03, 2012, 09:48:53 AM
Skidmarx for me, fits well, provides good protection, and the rear wheel can be removed without removing the hugger  :clap:

Here's the GRP version, carbon is available too

http://www.skidmarx.co.uk/product.php?id_product=40498
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: Alfor on November 03, 2012, 03:29:13 PM
Do huggers offer much benefit?

Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: 2kwacks on November 03, 2012, 05:16:36 PM
Quote from: Alfor on November 03, 2012, 03:29:13 PM
Do huggers offer much benefit?
I've a black skidmarx hugger which was approx £80.00 well made and fits well, can't see the point in paying another £50.00 for carbon when you can't really see the hugger that well when the panniers are on. unless you ride with your panniers off most of the time, your not really going to benefit from the carbon hugger :no:  but the hugger dose offer much benefit :yes: it helps to keep the rear shock and rectifer and undertray clean from all the  :shit: that the wheel chucks up. considering the price of shocks,rectifers I think it's a no brainer :smiley:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: Gonome on November 03, 2012, 05:45:48 PM
Skidmarx for me. Cannot understand why Mr K does not fit them as standard.

(http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r538/Gonome/PB020009_zpsb0e27f4e.jpg)
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: 2kwacks on November 03, 2012, 05:51:49 PM
 Mr Gonome.. nice clean gtr there :smiley: well done :yes: shame about the electricity box thou :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: Gonome on November 03, 2012, 05:54:44 PM
Quote from: 2kwacks on November 03, 2012, 05:51:49 PM
Mr Gonome.. nice clean gtr there :smiley: well done :yes: shame about the electricity box thou :mfr_lol:
Just had All Year Biker treatment hence the spotless bike :banana: What's wrong with the electricity box?
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: 2kwacks on November 03, 2012, 06:12:03 PM
Quote from: Gonome on November 03, 2012, 05:54:44 PM
Just had All Year Biker treatment hence the spotless bike :banana: What's wrong with the electricity box?
:oops: is it supposed to be two tone colour :grin: you must be posher than me :laugh: we just have all white :mfr_lol: :wink:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: Teacher on November 03, 2012, 07:18:24 PM
Thanks for the replies folks.

Ive looked at the previous threads on this now and some of the pics. So if i get a skidmarx I need to remove the exhaust? I assume thats easy to do? err- I'm no mechanic  :embarrassed: and the thought of it is well .... :sweatdrop: somewhat worrying cos I don't like undoing bits and pieces lol
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: zedmeister on November 03, 2012, 08:07:17 PM
I have a carbon one but whichever one you go for it is definately worth it, keeps all sorts of crap off the bike.
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: 2kwacks on November 03, 2012, 08:54:10 PM
Quote from: Teacher on November 03, 2012, 07:18:24 PM
Thanks for the replies folks.

Ive looked at the previous threads on this now and some of the pics. So if i get a skidmarx I need to remove the exhaust? I assume thats easy to do? err- I'm no mechanic  :embarrassed: and the thought of it is well .... :sweatdrop: somewhat worrying cos I don't like undoing bits and pieces lol
yes you need to remove the exhaust, but this is not problem :no: less than 10 mins to remove the exhaust :smiley: to gain excess to the right side torque arm bolt, skidmarx supply all the fixings to secure the hugger. but due the huggers brackets that hold the hugger in place "via" the torque arm bolts, the original locking nut only just covers the bolt thread, sikdmarx don't supply longer tourqe arm bolts, but they do advise you use a medium locking agent then torque to the recommended setting. I used the original bolts and locking nuts and use a medium locking agent and all been well since fitted 18 months ago :smiley: torque rod nut is 59 newton metres, if you don't have a torque wrench refer to the german tourqe.. Good-N-Tight!
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: Gonome on November 04, 2012, 08:45:07 AM
Quote from: 2kwacks on November 03, 2012, 06:12:03 PM
  :oops: is it supposed to be two tone colour :grin: you must be posher than me :laugh: we just have all white :mfr_lol: :wink:
Ah the penny has just dropped.  :embarrassed:  Thought you were refereing to something on the bike.  :hammer:  Had the bike done at the franchise owner of the All Year Biker's place so not responsible for the shitty state of the electricity box.  :grin:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: Bryn on November 04, 2012, 09:14:18 AM
Can you point me in the right direction for where to get one of those rear mudguard extenders from?   :cool:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: 2kwacks on November 04, 2012, 09:37:40 AM
Quote from: Bryn on November 04, 2012, 09:14:18 AM
Can you point me in the right direction for where to get one of those rear mudguard extenders from?   :cool:
do you want me to fit it as well :whistling: :wink: :mfr_lol: p.s here's the link :smiley:
http://www.skidmarx.co.uk/product.php?id_product=40498
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: 2kwacks on November 04, 2012, 09:43:23 AM
[quote author=Gonome link=topic=2333.you were refereing to something on the bike.  :hammer:  Had the bike done at the franchise owner of the All Year Biker's place so not responsible for the shitty state of the electricity box.  :grin:
[/quote] never mind  :shit: happens  :laugh: don't they have "all year round" electricity box cleaners around Fareham, Hampshire way.. :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: O.C. on November 04, 2012, 11:21:08 AM
Quote from: 2kwacks on November 04, 2012, 09:37:40 AM
do you want me to fit it as well :whistling: :wink: :mfr_lol: p.s here's the link :smiley:
http://www.skidmarx.co.uk/product.php?id_product=40498

That's twice you've had the link now Bryn  :mfr_lol:...cummon wakey, wakey  :ohplease:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: Bryn on November 04, 2012, 01:43:07 PM
Hehe.... If you read my question it was concerning the rear mudguard extender  , not the hugger .. the one behind the number plate   :laugh:  :stupid:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: 2kwacks on November 04, 2012, 02:07:23 PM
bryn.. if you want to extend the rear mudgaurd, I think you will need to knock one up yourself :yes: don't know where you could buy one which is mass produced especially for the gtr1400. I recall some guy making one out of a used mudgaurd and screwing it on the original mudgaurd, but unless I could get rear fenda extenda that was designed to fit perfectly, I don't think it would be worth the hassle :no: besides, I'm only interested in keeping the rear shock and rectifier clean and free from  :shit: the rest of the bike can be cleaned quickly and easily enough when needed :smiley:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: Gonome on November 04, 2012, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: Bryn on November 04, 2012, 09:14:18 AM
Can you point me in the right direction for where to get one of those rear mudguard extenders from?   :cool:
Bryn,
Got mine from Canada, the same place as Debs. E-mail address of guy to contact is [email protected] ([email protected]) . He makes them to order but even then it did not take long to deliver after order placed. Pictures below for your info.

(http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r538/Gonome/P9150003_zps30987411.jpg)
(http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r538/Gonome/P9150004_zps69fe09e1.jpg)
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: 2kwacks on November 04, 2012, 03:53:48 PM
Mr Gonome..  I'm not to keen on the look of that rear fenda extenda, but that is only my personal opinion. I understand why you've fitted it :yes: but I would rather keep the orignal look of the rear of the bike and wash all the  :shit: off when required. like I've already said, the rear hugger helps to keep the arkward to clean shock and rectifier free of  :shit: :smiley:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: O.C. on November 04, 2012, 03:54:10 PM
Quote from: Bryn on November 04, 2012, 01:43:07 PM
Hehe.... If you read my question it was concerning the rear mudguard extender  , not the hugger .. the one behind the number plate   :laugh:  :stupid:

:oops: well its an easy mistake to make especially if your olde like me  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: Bryn on November 04, 2012, 07:28:44 PM
Quote from: olde coney on November 04, 2012, 03:54:10 PM
:oops: well its an easy mistake to make especially if your olde like me  :mfr_lol:

Probably didn't explain myself properly either   :whistling:



Quote from: Gonome on November 04, 2012, 03:27:35 PM
Bryn,
Got mine from Canada, the same place as Debs. E-mail address of guy to contact is [email protected] ([email protected]) . He makes them to order but even then it did not take long to deliver after order placed. Pictures


The one from Canada is the one I was referring to .... saw one on Deb's on another thread  ......  Thanks for the heads up about where to get one  (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0500.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/)

Quote from: 2kwacks on November 04, 2012, 03:53:48 PM
Mr Gonome..  I'm not to keen on the look of that rear fenda extenda, but that is only my personal opinion. I understand why you've fitted it :yes: but I would rather keep the orignal look of the rear of the bike and wash all the  :shit: off when required. like I've already said, the rear hugger helps to keep the arkward to clean shock and rectifier free of  :shit: :smiley:

See your point about the lines being 'compromised'

Not sure whether to get one yet or not.... decisions decisions  :laugh:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: 2kwacks on November 04, 2012, 08:08:57 PM
bryn.. if you could get a rear fenda extenda made from the same shade colour, and it is chamfered at the point where it can slot behind the original mud gaurd to enable the 2 joins to fit flush then held in place by double sided tape.. then let me know :yes:  will have one myself :smiley: I think Gonome's is about the best have seen and it will certainly help keep the  :shit: of the rear of the bike. but I don't think it dose the gtr rear end any justice :no:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: Bryn on November 04, 2012, 10:19:43 PM
Quote from: 2kwacks on November 04, 2012, 08:08:57 PM
bryn.. if you could get a rear fenda extenda made from the same shade colour, and it is chamfered at the point where it can slot behind the original mud gaurd to enable the 2 joins to fit flush then held in place by double sided tape.. then let me know :yes:  will have one myself :smiley: I think Gonome's is about the best have seen and it will certainly help keep the  :shit: of the rear of the bike. but I don't think it dose the gtr rear end any justice :no:

Might be a bit of big ask.....  I think if it's not Gonome's I'd probably stick with how it is without.... the main reason for a mudguard extender is to stop the crap flying over SWMBO when we're out in the rain....  Not sure how bad (or good ) the GTR is on that respect yet.... the panniers will certainly stop most of the crap flying off the back wheel, and along with the hugger already fitted I don't think its going to be that bad  :cool:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: 2kwacks on November 05, 2012, 08:03:40 AM
Quote from: Bryn on November 04, 2012, 10:19:43 PM
Might be a bit of big ask.....  I think if it's not Gonome's I'd probably stick with how it is without.... the main reason for a mudguard extender is to stop the crap flying over SWMBO when we're out in the rain....  Not sure how bad (or good ) the GTR is on that respect yet.... the panniers will certainly stop most of the crap flying off the back wheel, and along with the hugger already fitted I don't think its going to be that bad  :cool:
I thought your reason for the rear fenda extenda  was to stop all the  :shit: flying over your panniers.. now you've explained it was to keep your significant other half free from all the  :shit: then you must decide what "rear end" you want to keep looking  :cool:  so now, it's a defo no brainer :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: 100milesaway on November 05, 2012, 08:17:15 PM
Quote from: Alfor on November 03, 2012, 03:29:13 PM
Do huggers offer much benefit?
In my humble opinion    NO   they just re- distribute the shite. :smiley:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: 2kwacks on November 05, 2012, 09:42:22 PM
Quote from: 100milesaway on November 05, 2012, 08:17:15 PM
In my humble opinion    NO   they just re- distribute the shite. :smiley:
Ho..! dear.. such negativity  :nono: :grin: As long as the hugger distributes the :shit: away from the shock and rectifier, then I'm happier than a pig in :shit: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: Bryn on November 06, 2012, 06:42:32 AM
I got rid of a new Explorer then got the GTR   :smiley:  First ride in the rain and I was surprised just how little crap was over the rear of the bike, compared to the Explorer and numerous GS's I've owned.... mine is fitted with a hugger, and I'm very happy with it   :yes:

We had a very wet few days in Normandy on the Explorer in June, and SWMBO had a stripe about 4" thick of mud and road crap down the centre of her jacket .... not a good design   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: ChrisB on November 06, 2012, 08:13:52 PM
Quote from: Bryn on November 06, 2012, 06:42:32 AM
I got rid of a new Explorer then got the GTR   :smiley:  First ride in the rain and I was surprised just how little crap was over the rear of the bike, compared to the Explorer and numerous GS's I've owned.... mine is fitted with a hugger, and I'm very happy with it   :yes:

We had a very wet few days in Normandy on the Explorer in June, and SWMBO had a stripe about 4" thick of mud and road crap down the centre of her jacket .... not a good design   :rolleyes:
You should have let her travel on the pillion rather than on the carrier... :laugh:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: Boomer on November 07, 2012, 04:16:11 PM
If you have a topbox then rest easy as your pillions back will be  :shit: free.
The underside of your topbox however will be covered in  :shit: :nuke: :001_9898: :clover: and  :banana:

The biggest issue I had with the rear wheel is that the spray from the rear wheel soaks the underside of my thighs.
Not a problem if ya have waterproofs on but in jeans you get nicely wet.
My GTR1000 didn't have that problem and even having fitted the hugger on the 1400 it's still not as good as the 1000.
On the 1000 so long as I can stay over 60Mph only my shoulders and the tips of my toes get wet.
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: mecki on November 07, 2012, 06:21:04 PM
I just can't see how a hugger is supposed stop spay at the back of the bike unless you are riding backwards.  :no:
Simple physics - really.  :smartass:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: Bryn on November 07, 2012, 06:28:40 PM
I think the idea is to keep as much crap off the rear shock as possible.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: mecki on November 07, 2012, 06:42:55 PM
Quote from: Bryn on November 07, 2012, 06:28:40 PM
I think the idea is to keep as much crap off the rear shock as possible.  :smiley:

That is right, but they were talking about the back of pillions, and a hugger won't stop that because it will only deflect  :shit: flying up and forward back on the tyre that would otherwise hit the mudguard under the seat and/or the swingarm/shock.
Therefore I would expect even more  :shit: flying out back since it has to go somewhere.  :hammer:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: 100milesaway on November 07, 2012, 07:46:35 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong ,BUT why do we need a hugger to keep the shite off the shocker, has it not got a cover over the piston from new?.  :smartass:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: viper on November 07, 2012, 09:43:37 PM
personally i would not have a hugger again, i found it difficult /impossible to keep the swing arm clean, yes the hugger helps protect the shock but the crud runs all over the swing arm. after a couple of years all the huggers ive owned have cracked or started to fall aprt .

now i just run a shock tube protector and always clean inside the wheel arch after rides.

i do fancy the rear fender extender, when ever we encounter heavy rain my pillions legs get soaked, the gtr does have a design flaw in regards on the rear wheel fling off angle, ive never had such a messy bike, i wish kawasaki made a rear guard/ protector like the BMWs have

(http://www.ascycles.com/images/products/verholen/8160985_verholen_r12gs_rearsplashguard.jpg)
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: Rusty on November 10, 2012, 12:42:09 AM
My hugger was purchased and fitted by the dealer when I bought the bike, so I have no idea of what its origin is but all is well so far ... even after 18 months, and TBH that's what I would expect.  :wink:
Title: Re: Which Hugger?
Post by: PCPeteUK on December 05, 2012, 05:40:45 PM
Quote from: viper on November 07, 2012, 09:43:37 PM
personally i would not have a hugger again, i found it difficult /impossible to keep the swing arm clean, yes the hugger helps protect the shock but the crud runs all over the swing arm. after a couple of years all the huggers ive owned have cracked or started to fall aprt .

now i just run a shock tube protector and always clean inside the wheel arch after rides.

i do fancy the rear fender extender, when ever we encounter heavy rain my pillions legs get soaked, the gtr does have a design flaw in regards on the rear wheel fling off angle, ive never had such a messy bike, i wish kawasaki made a rear guard/ protector like the BMWs have

There's a rear fender extender being marketed by a chap on the American site - http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=7921.msg95613#msg95613
(http://pc-pete.co.uk/gtr/fenderRear.JPG)