Not the post I want to be writing.
Yesterday I was involved in accident in Bradford (Bradford gets it revenge for me calling it Bradistan!).
Car pulled out of a side road and I went into the side. Fortunately it wasn't at speed but the bike went down. Somehow I managed to get off the bike before it went down. My wrist and back seem to have taken the impact and are extremely sore today.
The bike doesn't look too damaged, however the forks are bent. I doubt replacing the front end plus forks will be cheap, so I don't expect the bike to be repairable. The R&G crash protectors did their job, and the rear pannier was slightly scraped. The front however ...
Neither do I expect to be back on a bike for a while. Whilst not a serious accident, it has made me think about the young family I have and the consequences of the bread winner not being about.
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so sorry to hear that and glad you are not badly hurt, im sure every down'd rider initially wants to get out of biking after such and incident, but most jump back on the horse. Maybe just using a bike for pleasure rather than commuting may lower your risks. We only really use our bike on nice sundays!
So sorry to hear of your "off" Asif. The main thing is you don't sound to be to badly hurt. Understand how you feel about the dangers etc, only you can decide on how you feel about geting back on two wheels. Hope your feeling less damaged asap & that your claim against the car driver goes without any problems.
All the best.
Asif, the one thing you have to remember is that it was not your fault, you were riding correctly and they were the guilty party.
I had this a few years ago when I was taken out by a youngster and seeing my daughter in tears with her dad in an ambulance I also said I had better stop, it lasted about six months before I got another bike, even having two plates and ten screws in a hip I still ride, life is for living to the full and we both like riding bikes.
Chin up young man.
Alan
Asif, Been there and sympathise. But remember you can get injured crossing the road, in the car or even in your home.
(I am told more people get killed and injured doing DIY than any biking)
You are right to consider the family, and I expect they will not want you to get back riding again, but see how a few weeks change your views. The most important thing is for you to get recovered and of secondary importance after your 'repairs' is to get the bike fixed.
But I hope you and the bike are back up and running soon.
Get well soon mate.
Rippers
sorry to hear about this asif.. main thing is your ok, if the forks are bent with quite a bit of cosmetic damaged. it's likely it will be wrote off :sad: if you decide to get another bike will it be another gtr1400?
Asif, first impressions are that it doesn't look too bad but it's what you cant see thats a concern. As we've all said, you are alive, albeit with a few areas of discomfort which will ease over the next few days/weeks.
It's every bikers worse nightmare, a car pulling out from a junction after not seeing/looking properly. Six lights on the front of the GTR and a high viz vest, you have to ask, why did they not see you? How did they not see you?
The positive thing is that you had the Police attend and that the other party was insured. Small consolation I know but there are so many drivers in Bradford, especially that part of Bradford who are un-insured. Thats a statistical fact.
I'm sure your'e confidence will bounce back and you'll be back on two wheels soon, but at the same time I respect and fully understand your concerns for your family. Just dont rush into any decisions, we all want you back on two GTR wheels asap.
Keep your spirits up, Steve
:biker3:
Bugger :sad:
Really sorry to read this mate. Glad you are relatively ok.
Asif, so sorry to hear of your mishap. Did it happen whilst you were on your way home after leaving us?. As others have stated you sometimes think, and say things in the heat of the moment, that when you sit and reflect on what has happened after a few days have passed, things may not seem as bad. Good news is you were not injured to badly, your bumps and bruises will fade, and life will seem much rosier. just remember mate that you could have hurt yourself far more by tripping over a kids toy, or doing an odd job around the house. As you say they will probably write your bike off, so best to start saving now for the new GREEN one. Hope you get fit soon.
Asif, if the insurance co do decide its not worth reparing you could either buy it back and do it yourself as you know the history or remove all the saleable parts and put the originals back on and either install on another one or sell them for cash.
and dont get a green one, you know the black is the best :mfr_lol:
Alan
Alan, just tell everyone what colour the bike was at the front ALL day yesterday :mfr_lol:
Quote from: 100milesaway on July 22, 2012, 09:21:32 PM
Alan, just tell everyone what colour the bike was at the front ALL day yesterday :mfr_lol:
Indeed it was a Green one.
Alan
Quote from: 100milesaway on July 22, 2012, 09:21:32 PM
Alan, just tell everyone what colour the bike was at the front ALL day yesterday :mfr_lol:
Also what colour was rear gunners bike for a lot of the day ??? (GREEN :yes: ) :mfr_lol:
Asif, I'm sorry to hear about your accident, there are some real dozy pillocks on the road, some of them shouldn't be let loose with a wheelbarrow never mind a car.
As others have said the bike may well be written off if the repair costs exceed the market/realisable value of the bike, in which case get your bits off it.
Thankfully you are not badly hurt, and I fully understand that its made you think about riding a bike, but when you consider that you've done 50.000 miles on it with no problems its one of those things, and it wasn't your fault
I'm glad you're relatively unscathed, and I know that you'll make the right decision mate.
BTW it was real good to see you and ride out yesterday
Asif ... just back from work and onto the Forum after a few days away ... the first thread I read is this one !
So glad that you are ok, all be it a bit sore ... remember as others have said that the bike can be sorted or mended or replaced or whatever but you can't and so long as you are on the mend safe and well then that is the no 1 priority.
Your confidence in riding will return, I have no doubt ... you didn't spend all that money on Rukka kit just to get rid of it after a few weeks !
Keep us posted on the incident and Ins updates etc .
Sorry to here of your off, the main thing is you ar ok, the insurance will sort the bike either way, take your time and think wisely.
I did enjoy the sunshine today by taking all my bits off the bike. There's one rounded nut that isn't letting me remove the exhaust. I will get the dremel to it this week. The bike is back to stock. Most of my goodies I've removed. Some like the fender extender I've left on.
Thanks for all the messages of support. Last time I had an off, it took about 9 months for the bug to bite and I expect it will be about the same this time. The last accident I had was pretty similar and I swore to myself I'd get a big bike that would absorb the impact. The GTR was fantastic in protecting the rider. Also, the fact that I'm storing most of the accessories and not selling them is probably an indication that I will at some point get back on the bike.
That's what we like to hear Asif ! :yes: :smiley: :smiley:
Good man Asif, once the biking blood is in you it never goes away.
That exhaust sounds to good to sit in the shed, it needs a bike and when your ready I am sure your skills will come to the fore and on it will go to a suitable machine.
Alan
Shit :sad: , sorry to read that Asif but glad you're OK.
Kevin
did any of the sweets spill out ?
Coman
I'm glad to read that you are ok.. the bike can be replaced....... and hope you are back on a GTR soon
Patrick
hi mate, sorry to hear of ya accident,,, gutted for you mate,when i had my accident,i was more concerned about my bike than myself,,,an i was in a right mess!!!!!,
bikes can be fixed,renewed/replaced,,,,,you my friend,,are one unique item!!!!!!!!!!,
Im sure that in a few weeks when your aches/pains have healed, the sun will be shining,you will hear the growls of bikes passing you by as you go about your daily routine,an you will suddenly have that uncontrollable urge to get back out there!!!!,,bet you a tenner :yes: :yes:.
What ever you decide mate is up to you and your family,but i hope you have a speedy recovery,an that all will be settled up as soon as possibly for you,,take it easy for a while because your bodys healing process is in overtime for a few days,your gonna get tired,so put ya feet up and relax!!!
speedy recovery mate from the "jenros" family :yes:
keep us posted of your recovery,
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- ride again !!
- sorry to hear about your bike there.
.
Asif, been busy for a few days and only just read about your off. Really sorry to hear about the damage to your bike but relieved to read that you are reasonably OK. Guess I can only repeat what others have written that you should take your time about deciding what you will do with respect to getting back in the saddle. As someone who uses my bike to commute every day I am constantly aware of how vunerable we are and that we appear to be invisible to a large number of other road users. I gues the only lesson we can learn from your accident is that when in Bradford drive a :tank: .
Nooooooooo!
Really sorry to hear about your spill, but also really glad that you walked away with just bruises...
Your bike looks so sad like that... :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
Asif, best wishes from Ally and me. Ironically, Ally said if you had had your baffle out, the dozzy driver may have heard you! Anyway, quick recovery and get straight back out there. :grin:
Asif, I told you about riding through Bradistan. :nono:
Scares the bejeezus out of me when I'm in the car.
Not that Leeds is much better.
Glad you're only dinged and not broken. :banana:
As for the bike, well, what can I say other than,........ SPARES! :mfr_lol:
Now go bug Lonewolf into lending you his GTR. :hammer:
You need to get back on the horse asap.
Boomer, wash your mouth out with soap and water!! Lend him my GTR? :mfr_lol:
Joking aside, Bradford is a hazardous city to ride in especially Bradford 3 area which is where Asif was passing through. Lets not forget it was only a week before this that I almost got rammed head on by a stolen vehicle and that scared the living shit out of me. :sweatdrop:
Blimey... sounds like a proper war zone... :surrender: :tank:
Quote from: Rosbif on July 23, 2012, 05:08:28 PM
Blimey... sounds like a proper war zone... :surrender: :tank:
It is!!!!
Hey Asif,....I hope that you are feeling a bit better today and not too sore :yes:
Asif, just a thought. If you haven't already done so make sure you update the Officer who is dealing with your incident with the extent of your injuries. Having a record of your attendance at hospital or your GP always helps also. You might not want to but make sure you seriously consider putting a claim into the other parties insurance company for injuries sustained, & any other hardship caused due to the collision, trust me the other parties insurance company will be more surprised if you dont!
Any bruising etc, get it photographed ideally by the Police or alternatively by your wife.
It may go against the grain, but handled correctly you could come out of this with a new GTR, (magnesium GTR of course). :whistling:
A claim like this will easily be worth £5k - £10k.
+1 from Mr Wolf ... plus keep ANY receipts for taxis and travel that you have to use where normally your bike would take you.
Clothing damaged ? Again receipts and any photos of damaged goods and in their original state .. Keep a diary EVERY DAY of how you feel and the injuries you have and the pain killers you are taking ... write down date and time of phoning the officer (OIC) and if you don't get to speak to him make sure you get the name of the person passing your message ... do that and all will go a lot more smoothly in months to come I can assure you.
Hope all is on the mend Asif.
Bloody hell Rusty it must be compensation city in the Met, it was like you were quoting that from your very own aide memoire. :mfr_lol:
Quote from: Rusty on July 24, 2012, 03:18:42 PM
+1 from Mr Wolf ... plus keep ANY receipts for taxis and travel that you have to use where normally your bike would take you.
Clothing damaged ? Again receipts and any photos of damaged goods and in their original state .. Keep a diary EVERY DAY of how you feel and the injuries you have and the pain killers you are taking ... write down date and time of phoning the officer (OIC) and if you don't get to speak to him make sure you get the name of the person passing your message ... do that and all will go a lot more smoothly in months to come I can assure you.
Hope all is on the mend Asif.
Talk about a barrack room lawyer! :shocked:
What's the benefit in getting in touch with the officer that attended? I've not checked the clothing, but it did take an almighty whack. Although the helmet didn't take a hit, the insurance company have said it shouldn't be used again.
Quote from: olde coney on July 24, 2012, 10:18:28 AM
Hey Asif,....I hope that you are feeling a bit better today and not too sore :yes:
I am on the mend. At least today I can sit around without much pain.
Asif, ultimately your insurance company and the other chaps company will want to have sight of the collision form. Its whats callled a disclosable document, although some of it will be restricted.
What this document contains carries a lot of weight as to what the insurance company do in respect of paying you out. Occasionally also the attending Officer will be interviewed by a solicitor acting for the other side.
Make it work in your favour, be honest with it obviously but claim for everything as a starting point.
That sounds like very good advice Steve...and good luck with the claim Asif, its good to hear that you are on the mend
Steve ... :mfr_lol: ... As you well know The Met is the centre of The Universe and years on Traffic have it engrained into what little brain I have left !!
Rusty
Is TD H Garage still going. Used to go there many years ago when I was at GN
For those uninitiated it is all code.
Insurance appointed repairers came and took bike away today. Felt gutted. Told em I wanted my baby repaired
Have they intimated what they may do?
Not yet. Should know this week
Asif, I hope you washed it before it went. that would have put a thousand pounds on its value :whistling:
Quote from: 100milesaway on July 28, 2012, 09:33:57 PM
Asif, I hope you washed it before it went. that would have put a thousand pounds on its value :whistling:
It's a black one, worth a grand more as standard.
(ducks and runs)
Alan
Rippers .. TD H has gone , sold off I believe some time ago to fund more civvies.
Sadly GN is still there ! :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Bike is a cat c write off :angry:
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on August 10, 2012, 11:43:30 PM
Bike is a cat c write off :angry:
Whats the plan now then Asif?
Dunno.
Take the cash and run
Take the cash and buy back the bike and fix it
Take the cash and buy a different bike (ZZR1400?)
Take the cash and get a new GTR
Once bikes are in your blood its hard to get them out of your system. The commute to work at the moment is bearable given its school holidays. But with the nice weather we've been having I wish I was on a bike
Firstly, why are you still on line at nearly 3am? :mfr_lol: Get some sleep!!!
On a serious note from the text you sent me the other day you clearly want to be back on two wheels....and why not? Have you broached with your insurance company a claim against the other driver for compensation to get you back on a GTR? I cant see how you could lose. Think about it you could get a a magnesium coloured GTR, how cool would that be? :whistling:
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on August 11, 2012, 01:56:40 AM
Dunno.
Take the cash and run
Take the cash and buy back the bike and fix it
Take the cash and buy a different bike (ZZR1400?)
Take the cash and get a new GTR
Once bikes are in your blood its hard to get them out of your system. The commute to work at the moment is bearable given its school holidays. But with the nice weather we've been having I wish I was on a bike
What ever you decide all the very best but don't leave us! We need your knowledge and the voice of reason. :ohplease:
Quote from: Lonewolf on August 11, 2012, 02:52:44 AM
Firstly, why are you still on line at nearly 3am? :mfr_lol: Get some sleep!!!
On a serious note from the text you sent me the other day you clearly want to be back on two wheels....and why not? Have you broached with your insurance company a claim against the other driver for compensation to get you back on a GTR? I cant see how you could lose. Think about it you could get a a magnesium coloured GTR, how cool would that be? :whistling:
WOW ! that would be uber cool :cool: :cool: :cool:
but not quite as uber cool as getting a GREEN GTR :mfr_lol:
Asif, its a no brainer..claim off the person who caused the damage and inconvenience and then get another GTR
Simples :yes:
Asif, you know what damage was caused, I seem to remember forks etc, you could do a estimate of the cost to replace against what's being offered for the bike, in my humble opinion any damages you get from the car diver is a bonus for you and your family, strictly on bike finances you need to make this judgement.
On the one hand having a bike you know back on the road is on thing, on the other some people don't want the one they had the accident on back, depends on the money situation.
I have had a look about and in reality there are some pretty good deals to be had on used GTR bikes etc so perhaps that might be a consideration.
Whatever, you need to be on something the next time us softy southerners come up to Yorkshire home of the gold medals.
Alan
Quote from: BigAlan on August 11, 2012, 08:30:07 AM
I have had a look about and in reality there are some pretty good deals to be had on used GTR bikes etc so perhaps that might be a consideration.
Whatever, you need to be on something the next time us softy southerners come up to Yorkshire home of the gold medals.
Alan
point #1 Agreed Alan is right there are some cracking deals available now. :yes:
point#2 Agree Alan is right ..Yorkshire seems to have become the home of the Gold....nice one Alan :clap:
On the subject of the Olympics I see the Yanks are now saying that team GB is at the bottom of the achievemnet table as they have lost or come last in more events than any other country. :wacko:
Rusty
Thanks for feedback. My old trip down memory lane. Now in nice leafy Cheshire.
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on August 11, 2012, 01:56:40 AM
Dunno.
Take the cash and run
Take the cash and buy back the bike and fix it
Take the cash and buy a different bike (ZZR1400?)
Take the cash and get a new GTR
Once bikes are in your blood its hard to get them out of your system. The commute to work at the moment is bearable given its school holidays. But with the nice weather we've been having I wish I was on a bike
Buy summit completely different... :gunsmilie: get naked ...wooohoooo! Speed Triple or Tuono... :banana:
Off topic, but Mogster, I don't think there's a post of yours I've read that hasn't made me smile.
Get naked, class. Keep 'em coming.
Quote from: Mogster on August 11, 2012, 04:44:26 PM
Buy summit completely different... :gunsmilie: get naked ...wooohoooo! Speed Triple or Tuono... :banana:
The poor lad cant get naked if he uses the bike to travel to, and from work, he would bleeding freeze to death :nono:.
Sorry to hear about your crash,glad you didn't hurt your self to much.
Hope you fix your bike or buy a new bike soon and keep on riding.
id be tempted to rebuild my bike but selling a cat c bike, Id never touch one, i guess if its your cat c bike then you will trust it but when it comes to get rid of it you will get royaly butt f##ked on the price , you will almost have to give it away, id personally bite the bullet and get into something else .
I agree with Viper. My old VN900 was crashed into whilst parked. I had to convince the insurers repair shop to replace some parts with cheaper replacements because they were gonna write it off (cat c). I knew I'd never get a another equivalent bike with the payout and didn't want to be the owner of a cat c machine.
Mark
Quote from: 1ka on August 11, 2012, 10:36:30 PM
Off topic, but Mogster, I don't think there's a post of yours I've read that hasn't made me smile.
Get naked, class. Keep 'em coming.
I'm always off topic :banana: but one does not always need a fairing... I'm thinking getting a lighter easier to wizz about on bike with re-build lost confidence... worked for me a few years ago. :smartass:
Been off here for a while (still away -Deutschland presently, Italy yesterday :rolleyes: ) but the answer as I see it is - 1600GT :whistling:
Asif, I dont think buying the bike back of the insurance company and mending it yourself is a very good idea, as others have said you would have to keep it forever, as in the bike buyers eyes it would be a written off bike that had been cobbled back together, and still carry the stigma of being a category c write off. No for me you must take the money,( Have they made an offer yet ? )and then go and find another bike. As you have seen on here there are lots of bargains,and there will be more, and more as we approach winter. Think long and hard my friend, then come up with the right decision. Good luck, and happy hunting :smiley:.
bloody good advice :agree:.......only available from ones of a 'certain' age :mfr_lol:
I hear what you guys are saying, but bear in mind that I know this bike inside and out. I saw the reason why its been classed as a Cat C. Parts that weren't even involved in the accident are listed!
Also, if I do buy the bike, I'll be buying it cheap and for repairs, well, fleabay is my friend.
As we're in the process of purchasing a house, I'd rather spend the motorbike money on reducing mortgage, so repairing this and riding it makes economical sense to me at the moment.
Not yet decided though.
BTW, what does "Frame - damaged at lockstop" mean?
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on August 16, 2012, 10:31:11 PM
BTW, what does "Frame - damaged at lockstop" mean?
It means that when you crashed, the forks and bars were twisted all the way to one side so that they hit the "stop" on the frame and damaged it. Could be expensive to fix if it's really bad. It may have also broken the ability to enable the handlebar lock?
Quote from: 1ka on August 16, 2012, 10:36:38 PM
It means that when you crashed, the forks and bars were twisted all the way to one side so that they hit the "stop" on the frame and damaged it. Could be expensive to fix if it's really bad. It may have also broken the ability to enable the handlebar lock?
Ah, the handlebar lock still engaged just about. Trying to find it on the parts fiche so I can see what it looks like
Asif, good luck with whatever decision you arrive at.....just get back on two wheels a.s.a.p :yes:
Yes I have to agree with OC, get back on two wheels ASAP
:biker3:
Went to look at the bike again today. It looks like there's a slim chance that the head stock is damaged. Based on that I'm going to have to let it go :cry:
I did hear a rumour that Kawasaki maybe updating the model for 2013.
Time to get on ebay and look for a cheap bike to tide me over