forgot about this eco mode switch that changes the fuel for economy for motorway use :embarrassed: must give it try sometime :smiley: might save a few quid when I tour france :rolleyes: as any regular motorway user's tried this eco mode yet and more importantly, dose it work?
Sadly some of my commuting miles are A3 into London and a bit of A23 Brighton to Gatwick and TBH it probably does work but then it would anyway if you are more gentle on the throttle with or without the ECO icon on the dash ... we all know how to ride easy and save fuel or give it some wellington and fill up a little more often ... which is what I like... :rolleyes:
mmmm all i can say is i do pretty regular trips from Blackburn down to Somerset to visit the girlfriend and use it .... it alows me to get the 217mile down there and have a bit left for the morning to go fill up . but i no idea how far the tank range is without it :wacko:
In my experience it does work....its not going to save you a huge amount, but you will see the difference if you set the computer to current Mpg, check what it is reading, and then apply the ECO mode and check it again
thanks for the info, will be giving it a try the next time I'm on the motorway. sure will come in handy when touring the south of france in august :smiley:
I don't think there will be much "ECO" usage whilst on tour !! :wink: :wink:
I use it all the time, cruising at 80mph on the motorway gives around 52~54mpg. Above this and it's less effective.
I hammer in on the A roads though, so it goes back down to 48~50mpg.
I have noticed one thing that I think is ECO related, accelerating moderately hard in the wet can cause the back wheel to spin up. Happened a few times this winter on wet/icy roads at about 70mph. I suspect that there's a power band effect as you rev the engine and it goes from ECO to full-on. Funnily enough, traction control did not kick it at any time. It either doesn't work at high speed, or it wasn't really spinning. Felt like it though... :banana:
Quote from: Rusty on March 12, 2012, 08:21:42 PM
I don't think there will be much "ECO" usage whilst on tour !! :wink: :wink:
well I'm not to sure about that :smiley: last time we toured france I was on my zzr1400 and my mate on his hayabusa, all we seem to do is stop for fuel :sad: hope the gtr is kinder on my wallet :grin:
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Best I ever got was 260 miles out of a tank in France on National roads in Eco mode last year.
Cruising @ 80-90 mph in Eco mode on the Motorway I got about 240.
Thats a very decent range.
Quote from: mecki on March 12, 2012, 10:54:35 PM
Best I ever got was 260 miles out of a tank in France on National roads in Eco mode last year.
Cruising @ 80-90 mph in Eco mode on the Motorway I got about 240.
That is good, best I managed was about 220 returning from Austria single rider with full luggage.
I flick mine into eco every time I get on it, and dont see any point in not doing so unless you want to ride like a loon. I like to get a shift on, but never ride like a loon :innocent: . Mine has done 52.3 miles per gallon since new and I am well chuffed with that. Dont think they would do that MPG in normal mode though. :smiley:
yep! will be giving it ago next time I'm out! like I said, I forgot I had this eco mode :embarrassed: to busy enjoying the bike :grin: must read up on it a bit more! to find out how it all works :smiley: or you could just tell me :wink:
Quote from: 2kwacks on March 13, 2012, 06:20:49 PM
yep! will be giving it ago next time I'm out! like I said, I forgot I had this eco mode :embarrassed: to busy enjoying the bike :grin: must read up on it a bit more! to find out how it all works :smiley: or you could just tell me :wink:
Easy peesy, The forward facing grey button on the left hand cluster controls the ECO mode, after starting the engine hold the switch in for between 1 and 3 seconds and the eco text will appear on the dash, thats it away ya go. Do remember though that when you have stopped the engine, fuel, brew etc you will have to put it back into eco as before. :smiley:
Quote from: 100milesaway on March 13, 2012, 06:43:47 PM
Easy peesy, The forward facing grey button on the left hand cluster controls the ECO mode, after starting the engine hold the switch in for between 1 and 3 seconds and the eco text will appear on the dash, thats it away ya go. Do remember though that when you have stopped the engine, fuel, brew etc you will have to put it back into eco as before. :smiley:
thanks for that :smiley: just about to read up on it, so when you stop engine it cuts the eco mode off? so this eco mode can't be selected while riding, or is there a set speed it can be engaged?
Quote from: 2kwacks on March 13, 2012, 07:17:01 PM
thanks for that :smiley: just about to read up on it, so when you stop engine it cuts the eco mode off? so this eco mode can't be selected while riding, or is there a set speed it can be engaged?
You can select at any time as long as ignition is on. :smiley:
Quote from: 100milesaway on March 13, 2012, 07:25:15 PM
You can select at any time as long as ignition is on. :smiley:
even when riding you can select or unselect the eco mode! when I remember what have done with the owners manual I will read up on it! :grin:
2 things..
I got 237miles out of the tank the other day - going into London and back home again twice then to the petrol station. That's 55miles each way, plus 17miles, so 5 cold starts. Traffic, filtering and and an average of 70mph + 10% + 2 mph officer :-).....
I could only get 22 litres of fuel back in, so knowing I've got 23.5 litres in the tank before I recon I had another 20-25miles to go.... That's over 260miles to the tank.... But I would only push it that far if I had a jerry can.
At a guess on a lucky day, Non stop, you might be able to push it to 270-275...... :-)
Neil
Oh forgot to mention..... Switchable Eco mode won't work above 100mph, although you can turn it on below 100, then it stays on..... But you can't turn it on above 100....
Neil
Quote from: SirToU on March 13, 2012, 08:20:54 PM
2 things..
I got 237miles out of the tank the other day - going into London and back home again twice then to the petrol station. That's 55miles each way, plus 17miles, so 5 cold starts. Traffic, filtering and and an average of 70mph + 10% + 2 mph officer :-).....
I could only get 22 litres of fuel back in, so knowing I've got 23.5 litres in the tank before I recon I had another 20-25miles to go.... That's over 260miles to the tank.... But I would only push it that far if I had a jerry can.
At a guess on a lucky day, Non stop, you might be able to push it to 270-275...... :-)
Neil
[/quote] At a guess on a lucky day, Non stop, you might be able to push it to 270-275...... :-)
that will wind me mate up good style :grin: he's going on his hayabusa Gas Guzzler :laugh:
Quote from: SirToU on March 13, 2012, 08:20:54 PM
I could only get 22 litres of fuel back in
Neil, any idea how many miles you did after the flashing fuel warning? Reason I ask is I routinely do between 25 and 35 miles after the flashing, and have never got more than 21.2l in. I reckon the bike would do nearly 100 miles on 'reserve' with a careful right hand and a complete disregard for getting stranded roadside.
Martin.
Quote from: SirToU on March 13, 2012, 08:20:54 PM
I could only get 22 litres of fuel back in, so knowing I've got 23.5 litres in the tank before I recon I had another 20-25miles to go.... That's over 260miles to the tank.... But I would only push it that far if I had a jerry can.
Neil
Did you put a bigger tank on yours? :huh:
Otherwise since the GTR only has a 22l tank you must have been running on fumes. :rolleyes:
I always calculate that I've got about 40 miles left when the Low Fuel warning comes on.
And I carry a full 5l fuel can with me when I go on longer trips.
Quote from: SirToU on March 13, 2012, 08:22:38 PM
Oh forgot to mention..... Switchable Eco mode won't work above 100mph, although you can turn it on below 100, then it stays on..... But you can't turn it on above 100....
Neil
that's fine :smiley: last time we toured france, we kept a steady touring speed to 90 m.p.h "approx 142 k.p.h" from cali to glenoble, and we averaged approx 45 m.p.g on both the zzr1400 and the hayabusa, so expecting the gtr to average approx 55 m.p.g in the eco mode :smiley: dose that sound reasonable?
Mecki ... I like the idea of carrying the 5L can .... quite heavy as extra "luggage" ... do you "pack" it into the top box with not much else in there of weight or just sling it in a pannier and sod the weight distribution ? :smiley:
210 miles other day till low fuel was flashing i run in ecco all time bikes done 3200 mile seems slightly looser than when new and better on fuel my 57 plate one i used to have did more to the tank but had done 9000 miles will see what happens when she done a few more miles
Quote from: Rusty on March 13, 2012, 09:13:54 PM
Mecki ... I like the idea of carrying the 5L can .... quite heavy as extra "luggage" ... do you "pack" it into the top box with not much else in there of weight or just sling it in a pannier and sod the weight distribution ? :smiley:
I just put it in the right hand pannier and haven't noticed any handling problems.
Quote from: mecki on March 13, 2012, 08:44:59 PM
Otherwise since the GTR only has a 22l tank <snip>
I had always thought the tank was 23L, so this made me check the owners manual and Mecki is right - 22L. Makes more sense to me now that the most I have ever managed to get in the tank is 21.2L.
Martin.
Quote from: barnyardsavage on March 13, 2012, 10:05:15 PM
210 miles other day till low fuel was flashing i run in ecco all time bikes done 3200 mile seems slightly looser than when new and better on fuel my 57 plate one i used to have did more to the tank but had done 9000 miles will see what happens when she done a few more miles
Since you should have 4l of fuel left when the Low Fuel warning comes on that would give you at least another 40-50 miles.
So we are talking 250-260 miles on a full 22l tank.
I reckon that's pretty good.
One day I'm going to run my bike dry. I've done 20 miles on the flashing low fuel warning, and only manage to fill up to 19l (and that's 19l with overfill).
Eco Mode was the Japanese response to customer feedback on tank range on Mk I GTR 1400 rather than making it bigger. They've automated Eco Mode on 2012 ZZR 1400
But there's also a useful improvement in fuel consumption, made by automating the 'Economy' switch found on the 1400GTR. This advances the ignition timing significantly when engine loads are light (most of the time with a motor this powerful), and with other changes to the engine management has made the ZZR1400 up to 20 per cent more fuel efficient, although most of the time an owner would expect to see an 8 per cent advantage over the outgoing model.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7210/6979939643_0120d158b7_z.jpg)
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on March 14, 2012, 01:04:39 PM
One day I'm going to run my bike dry. I've done 20 miles on the flashing low fuel warning, and only manage to fill up to 19l (and that's 19l with overfill).
Why bother? :rolleyes:
:listencarefully: The warning is supposed to come on with 4l left.
Your fuel usage can be quite different depending on how you ride.
Low gear and high revs => lower milage, high gear and low revs => more economical.
Going uphill also has an influence and going into or with the wind will make a difference too.
So even if you manage to get 270 miles out of a tank one day another day it may be only 220 or even less if you really cane it or only ride in city traffic. :smartass:
Quote from: mecki on March 14, 2012, 03:44:26 PM
Why bother? :rolleyes:
:listencarefully: The warning is supposed to come on with 4l left.
Your fuel usage can be quite different depending on how you ride.
Low gear and high revs => lower milage, high gear and low revs => more economical.
Going uphill also has an influence and going into or with the wind will make a difference too.
So even if you manage to get 270 miles out of a tank one day another day it may be only 220 or even less if you really cane it or only ride in city traffic. :smartass:
He's just talking about "testing" the reserve range. The miles remaining is quite accurate but disapears with the anoying low fuel warning :angry: Seemed quite acurate when I ran out (with a spare can...)
Quote from: Andy on March 14, 2012, 05:54:26 PM
He's just talking about "testing" the reserve range. The miles remaining is quite accurate but disapears with the anoying low fuel warning :angry: Seemed quite acurate when I ran out (with a spare can...)
Aye, I want to know what the reserve level actually is. I don't trust the range reading. One sec its telling me i've 150+ miles and the next 50 miles.
No bigger tank, juSt slight overfill.
I always play the reserve roulette - only let me down when I forgot I was running at 110-120 miles missed target petrol station by mile and half, reserve won't run out to 40 to 50 miles at those speeds.
On all 3 GTR's low fuel (reserve) comes on with 40 miles on the range - and it's pretty accurate as long as your riding economically. ~80-90mph.
Auto Eco mode - are you sure? 2011 ZX10R has the same Eco mode indicator as the GTR when riding economically. But not switchable. When I'm not being a twat, I can get 42-43 mpg out of the 10, but I wouldn't't say it's a auto-Eco. Mode.
Neil
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on March 14, 2012, 09:01:47 PM
Aye, I want to know what the reserve level actually is. I don't trust the range reading. One sec its telling me i've 150+ miles and the next 50 miles.
Obviously the computer calculates how far you would get if you carry on like you are running at the moment. The less petrol you have left the bigger the difference. If you look at the current mpg readouts you will notice that it may show 30 or even less one moment (i.e. you accelerate in a low gear) and maybe 80 shortly after (engine idles while travelling downhill at 80 mph). So if you have just over 4 litres of petrol left and you shut the throttle at high speed it may calculate you can travel 80 or more miles while in the other extreme (low gear and lots of throttle going uphill) it will say, 'you'll be out of fuel in less than 25 miles!'
But you will find that the low fuel warning always comes on when the sensor tells the computer that you have only 4l of fuel left. In my experience that will get you anywhere between 40 and 50 miles on the open road and maybe 30 in city traffic.
In other words it's time to find a gas station within the next half hour or so.