Apart from those lucky enough to currently own a new GTR with heated grips as standard which make do the rest of us have, if any?
I think mine are Hot Grips, but not Oxford. They are ok and I have to admit I've only used them twice this year but they only have two settings, HOT, which is so hot I can actually feel my hands burning through my gloves, perhaps I need thicker gloves to keep the heat out or MEDIUM which is ok providing the air temperature isnt too cold. :-\
My last bike had Oxford heated grips on them and I'm sure from memory that they had about 4 or 5 settings. I see that the new GTR's have the same heated grips as standard as the Yamaha FJR's. Does anyone know, can these heated grips be purchased as an accessory, or are they only fitted to new bikes.
I am one of those lucky standard fit fellas, and I would say the stepless variance controlled grips are superb. It has been -6 a couple of times recently when setting off, and I have still not needed them on maximum.
I have not seen them offered as an accessory package anywhere, but I am sure that the grips themselves and the controller would be available to purchase from the parts department. The only thing to be slightly wary of is the standard 2010 model grips have some monitor on battery voltage, and switches the grips off if the voltage is too low. I don't know where that 'intelligence' is, or whether it woiuld mean a retrofit is tricky - sorry.
Martin.
oxford are hit and miss. some have been hot, others youll get more joy by rubbing your hands together
looks like you can buy them individually. controller is 70 quid and grip 90 dunno if thats for a pair. i bet they are oxford ones anyhow
http://www.cornwallkawasaki.co.uk/shop/shop.php?cmd=showdiagram&id=25095
It looks like that price might be each side. But a very good find nevertheless.
I've had a closer look at mine, they seem to be called Daytona Hot Grips.
Mine are the Daytona Hot Grips and I wouldn't change them for any other. They get HOT
I've realised that the grips on the Daytona are wearing out. Do I risk trying a new brand or get the Daytona again
NB, I'd go for the Oxford heated grips. I think from memory they have about four or five outut settings. Thats one negative side to the Daytona ones which are either luke warm or full nuke power. :o
I had some Oxfords on my Busa and when the controller when tits up I went to Hein Gericke and they gave me a new one FOC. Good service.
Deffo the Oxfords
Hein Gericke ones - the old style with "Off, Start, and On". They get seriously hot
Quote from: Norman Bates on August 11, 2011, 12:08:15 AM
Hein Gericke ones - the old style with "Off, Start, and On". They get seriously hot
They are the ones I have. If mine ever pack up and sometimes I wish they would I'll change them for the Oxford grips. I find with my current ones that on the low setting you cannot feel any heat and on the hot setting they actually start to burn my skin. But then I do have delicate skin having washed up in Mild Green Fairy Liqued for the last 47 years. ;D
I have the Oxfords on my GTR1000. They are about 10 years old and all I've had to replace is the right grip which split after 8 years.
They quoted me £50 for one replacement grip, so I waited until the next motorcycle show and bought an entire set for £40. <LOL>
I only used the right grip from it and somewhere in my garage I have the controller and the left grip.
My controller is infinitely variable with a knob. Looks like this.
(http://www.bikebone.com/miva/graphics/00000002/heaterz.jpg)
The newer set came with a stepped push button controller that I'm not keen on.
You do need to be very careful how you route the cables to the throttle grip as it can snag stuff.
You can of course upgrade to a 2011 model and get heated grips as standard ;D ;D ;D
They work very well and the control is nicely integrated in the fairing.
Quote from: mecki on August 11, 2011, 12:54:02 PM
You can of course upgrade to a 2011 model and get heated grips as standard ;D ;D ;D
They work very well and the control is nicely integrated in the fairing.
That's a bit more expensive than the Oxford grips. :)
It also gives the linked brakes and traction control which I am personally not keen on.
I have to admit that I am not too impressed with the linked brakes myself, but having traction control on such a powerful bike especially in the wet or on gravel is great.
And you can turn it off if you like the adrenalin kick wheel spin may give you or intend to do stunts. ;D
The brakes (at least on mine) are a bit temperamental. Sometimes they are very firm and another time they seem rather soft.
Otherwise I think it is a great idea to have linked brakes.
Of course the more electronic gizmos you have the more likely it is that one of them fails sooner or later. ???
Linked brakes is one of the reasons I'll be getting a newer model. The last bike I had, a Honda Varadero, had linked brakes and worked well. I don't know if the Kawasaki technology is as refined but the concept is good.
Quote from: Norman Bates on August 12, 2011, 01:53:58 PM
Linked brakes is one of the reasons I'll be getting a newer model. The last bike I had, a Honda Varadero, had linked brakes and worked well. I don't know if the Kawasaki technology is as refined but the concept is good.
If any interest, Honda's Dual Combined Braking System is described here: (quite good) :)
http://nerdrider.com/?p=35
GTR1400 does not have it... well, anyone know that, right?
But... GTR1400 has ABS!
I'we owned a Honda VFR800FI since 98' to 08' - about 10 years - and was quite happy for the dual brake system! *BUT* it will *NEVER* be as good as ABS! *NEVER*
As Andrew from NERDrider state... Honda/DCBS "only" distribute different level of pressure onto brakepads ie. 90% front and 10% at back. But you still can establish 100% block on wheels! That can't happen with ABS!
Anyway... the new VFR1200 has is all... ie. DCBS & ABS!
ABS and CBS are totally different systems and perform totally different functions.
ABS allows maximum braking with control by reaching the lock-up point and releasing time after time so steering and control is retained.
CBS allows rider to brake under all conditions with full control with a front brake bias (70/30% ish) balancing braking for normal condtions. Application of rear brings about a nearer 50/50 balance and doesn't effect dragging rear brake for mid corner control under normal conditions.
The two combined provide more control when really going for it, balancing front and rear appropriate to circumstances and retaining control when it gets a bit hairy and avoiding hazards.
Quote from: mosegaard on August 12, 2011, 08:55:54 PM
If any interest, Honda's Dual Combined Braking System is described here: (quite good) :)
http://nerdrider.com/?p=35 (http://nerdrider.com/?p=35)
GTR1400 does not have it... well, anyone know that, right?
But... GTR1400 has ABS!
GTR1400 doesn't have the Honda linked braked system I would be surprised if it did :o but the 2010 model onwards does have the Kawasaki linked braked system as well as ABS. The advantage of the Kawasaki one is that you can change the front/rear balance from 70/30 for a solo rider to 50/50 if you have a pillion on board - that's if you remember push the button.
Steve
I can see the attractions of TCS and ABS but I would still prefer not to have them.
Linked Brakes (whatever flavour) I hate.
I've ridden a CBR1000 (awful!), an ST1300 (bad), pre-VTEC VFR800 (bad), CBR1100XX (bad) and a GL1800 (who can tell what's happening at the wheels?).
I learned to ride on MX bikes and whilst I rarely trail brake, I will dab the back brake to correct/change line mid corner.
Do that on a bike with Linked Brakes and you are headed for the ditch.
For me the whole point of a motorcycle is my control of it.
I don't want anything else interfering with my choice of how I control it.
Pretty soon you will be able to buy a motorcycle that rides itself and is 100% safe, at which point they will outlaw the "dangerous" motorcycles.
You have been warned. We are already well into that downwards spiral.
On my old Honda CBF 1000 the linked brakes only worked in one direction, so you could use the rear brake in isolation, for exactly that reason, and when you operated the front brake it operated one pot on the rear, just to steady the machine...worked fine for me
Hi guys, anyone had an issue with one of the grips not heating? The original is quite expensive to replace I found.
i had the sport oxford grips fitted from new on my zzr ,they were crap!!!complained to oxford ,who would not deal with me direct told me to go through my kawasaki dealer ,i did ,they sent me out a new controller no problem, i fitted the new controller ,they were just the same the right hand side would get warm on the hottest setting the left one was crap warmed up occasionally ,i contacted oxford again ,they said the grips are best wired up straight to the battery ,i dont like to do this but as they have an inline fuse and if you forget to turn them off they turn themselves off,wired them to the battery they are now much ,much better ,but i still find you need them on the highest or second highest setting to feel the warmth.i wouldn't go for the oxford grips again.
I put oxford grips on my previous GTR and found them excellent. I rate them better than the OE ones on the later versions. the Oxfords heated up much quicker and I found the controller easy to use. I wired them up through the front accessory socket so that they were ignition controlled
I love this forum .... :mfr_lol: The title is about heated grips .. I skip through the pages and there is a load of stuff about "linked brakes" ... no idea what they are :smiley: ...If you want really hot grip buy a BMW !!!
Quote from: Rusty on February 01, 2015, 07:46:56 PM
I love this forum .... :mfr_lol: The title is about heated grips .. I skip through the pages and there is a load of stuff about "linked brakes" ... no idea what they are :smiley: ...If you want really hot grip buy a BMW !!!
Exactly what I was thinking Rusty :wacko:
Quote from: Rusty on February 01, 2015, 07:46:56 PM
I love this forum .... :mfr_lol: The title is about heated grips .. I skip through the pages and there is a load of stuff about "linked brakes" ... no idea what they are :smiley: ...If you want really hot grip buy a BMW !!!
Rusty, Linked braking is designed for heating your seat........
Go round a corner,
touch your rear brake pedal mid lean,
shit yourself.........heated seat............simples :whistling:
I've got the Oxford heated grips on mine. With the push button settings (not the dial).
They are on their third switch unti as the others hae not proven to be waterproof!
But since these were fitted Oxford changed the connections so I couldn't just replace the switch but had to change most of the harness that goes with them.
That has happened twice.
Currently the left grip doesn't heat up at all and the right grip comes on even with the unit switched off.
So it looks like the switch unit has fouled again and needs replacing once more.
It's a bit ridiculous that the switch unit is not fully waterproof and would need to be mounted somewhere other than conveniently on the handlebars.
I wouldn't recommend Oxford. They are ok when they are actually working correctly but having an unreliable (and expensive to replace) switch unit is getting a bit annoying.
Maybe the new dial type of switch is more reliable.
I have had the "dial" Oxford Hotgrips on my 1000 for 10 years now. Had to replace the left grip after a crash in 2007 but otherwise they are superb. Have never had them over 3/4 as are too hot, even with winter gloves on.
You could put Grip Puppies over these and still they'd warm yer hands.
Shame they can't warm the back of yer hands too. :-(
i have some gerbing heated gloves for the back on the hands!! didn't buy a controller with them so they are painfully hot in anything above -6 and below anything below 50mph.
Quote from: Rusty on February 01, 2015, 07:46:56 PM
I love this forum .... :mfr_lol: The title is about heated grips .. I skip through the pages and there is a load of stuff about "linked brakes" ... no idea what they are :smiley: ...If you want really hot grip buy a BMW !!!
This is the culprit !
Quote from: Boomer on August 12, 2011, 11:07:38 AM
That's a bit more expensive than the Oxford grips. :)
It also gives the linked brakes and traction control which I am personally not keen on.
Why do BMWs need heated grips........
I thought they only went out in fair weather...
(sat here with my helmet on taking cover)!
Quote from: doebag on February 03, 2015, 04:13:18 PM
This is the culprit !
Guilty as charged. :D
Now what else can we divert this thread into?
Anyone out there feel that this thread needs sexing up a bit? :banana: :punk: :popcorn:
Quote from: Boomer on February 03, 2015, 07:30:07 PM
Guilty as charged. :D
Now what else can we divert this thread into?
Anyone out there feel that this thread needs sexing up a bit? :banana: :punk: :popcorn:
:ohplease:............................. :mfr_lol:
A SLIGHT aside on heated grips.
I've just fitted a bit of extra wiring under the left hand fairing (2013 model) and thought I'd better check that all was weel after reassembly. Yes, they grips are heating up. Wait a bit they are warm, but not getting any warmer. After pulling it all apart to check everything I turned to about page 659 (actually page 32)in the manual and there it is!!
temperature settings.
When the vehicle speed is 3 km/h or less, the dial unit repeats the following pattern until the vehicle
speed is 15 km/h or more.
2 Minutes - ON ←→ 4 Minutes - OFF
In other words it won't heat up fully while sitting on the centre stand. Not sure if I like that
2 Minutes - ON ←→ 4 Minutes - OFF......................
Is that the rhythm method ? :whistling: :mfr_lol:
Didn't work for me or the 7 kids!
Are we saying that aftermarket grips can't be attached to the existing controller?
It would be interesting to find out who supplies the grips to Kawasaki
Quote from: Charlie747 on February 04, 2015, 07:47:21 AM
2 Minutes - ON ←→ 4 Minutes - OFF......................
Is that the rhythm method ? :whistling: :mfr_lol:
Quote from: Burchy on February 04, 2015, 09:54:17 AM
Didn't work for me or the 7 kids!
:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
:banana: :2guns: :oops: :embarrassed: