My 'spare' sat nav mount arrived this morning. Was (am) tempted to be bone lazy idle and just charge from the cig lighter accessory socket. Then I did a search here and it seems that I have spare power leads tucked away waiting to be used (2010 bike). Seems a simples job even for a numpty mechanic like me. Also one of my Hein Gericke bargains was a heat shrink tubing grip kit. Never used h shrink before (told you I'm no mechanic) so I assume its just a case of wacking the old hair drier on it and bobs your uncle?
So following Kwikfux wiring d /gram I can cut the bullet connectors off, splice the cables, solder, and heat shrink. Am I missing something...?
Why not just put a couple of connectors on your Sat Nav leads? Far easier and removable later.
You can also make a harness to clip onto the connector and run more than one thing off it if you don't cut them off
For heatshrink, forget the hairdryer and use a lighter.
You can get bullet connector separators which I what I would use.
Actually I lie. I would use a fuzeblock :laugh:
Quote from: Winston Smith on February 08, 2012, 04:14:05 PM
Why not just put a couple of connectors on your Sat Nav leads? Far easier and removable later.
You can also make a harness to clip onto the connector and run more than one thing off it if you don't cut them off
yer see thats WHY I posted :-) Okay agreed - better idea, so, how would i go about making a 'harness'...?
As there is this aux power lead, (only on with ignition right?) and the aux socket, cant think its worth getting a fuzeblock?... maybe I'll change my mind after Ive had the bike a while....
Depends on how many powered farkles you intend to add. I though the same as you once ...
All I did was get 3 wires for each (live and neutral) crimped together and placed bullet connector on one end into aux socket - bullet connectors on ends then bullets onto Sat-Nav/Grips/Cruise Control. All work fine.
You can always shrink wrap the crimped/bullet ended connection!
makes sense - many thanks. just did a quick google, seems there are 2 sizes of jap bullets (dont mention the war...) 3.9mm and 4.7mm
I guess they'll be 3.9 on the gtr....?
kwarrgtr.... follow winstons advice and don't cut the cables bullet connectors are what you need female (red) size 22-16 and male (blue) size 16-14 are good, try Maplins if you are stuck...or halfords...you may also need some cable which is in small packets at Maplins
here's a couple of pics which show a home made harness which is just cables zip tied together in this case at the rear of the GTR from the two feeds under the seat catch.. hopefully the pic will help to explain
(http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n326/oldeconey/GTRaccessoryfit001.jpg)
And here's my Fuzeblock on the bench awaiting installation...its shown with my Starcom comms
(http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n326/oldeconey/GTRaccessoryfit002.jpg)
I hope this helps :wink:
Thanx mate 'prreciate that. :smiley:
so..... (sorry to be PITA) once I got the conectors and crimped them on the sat nav cable, I just plug and play into the pictured connectors in this thread.?....
http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,72.0.html
Do I need a specific size bullet? Or will any size fit into the male/female i'm splicing into?
You need the correct bullet or female sleeve - make sure you get poitive and negative on the right bits of wire!
But yes. Just plug and play!
Note old coney's pic has a Fuzeblock :laugh:
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on February 08, 2012, 09:06:34 PM
Note old coney's pic has a Fuzeblock :laugh:
yeah, I haven't actually wired in the Fuzeblock onto this GTR, I just used the rear aux power leads to power the Comms, and the front aux (under glove box and potentially a right sod to find) for the Sat Nav docking/charger mounting.
BTW when you locate the front Aux leads they can be very short i.e not much to get hold of, hence this is why its better to plug straight onto them.
I suggest you use a red female bullet connector for the pos+ power lead and alternative coloured male bullet for earth, its safer that way
Lots of pictures of the 2010 model aux leads and how to get them on my site if you want to take a look - http://www.trackandrace.com/workshop and follow the links to the GTR bit.
But, and maybe I am missing something here, every SatNav lead I have ever used ends in a male cigarette lighter socket that contains a voltage transformer. If you cut that off, and wire into the bike direct, you will be feeding 12.5V ish into the unit that normally requires about 7V. I doubt it will last long.
Martin.
Quote from: MJJ_ZX6RR on February 09, 2012, 04:26:03 PM
Lots of pictures of the 2010 model aux leads and how to get them on my site if you want to take a look - http://www.trackandrace.com/workshop and follow the links to the GTR bit.
But, and maybe I am missing something here, every SatNav lead I have ever used ends in a male cigarette lighter socket that contains a voltage transformer. If you cut that off, and wire into the bike direct, you will be feeding 12.5V ish into the unit that normally requires about 7V. I doubt it will last long.
Martin.
Well, my Zumo 550 came with 2 different cradles. One with a suction cup and a male lighter socket plug (if you want to use it in a car) and the other one with a lead to hard-wire to the bike. I guess they put a transformer into the latter to prevent what you describe from happening.
The TomTom on mine has the charging Docking/mounting that I mentioned in my previous thread, and it is that which is wired to the bike.
Good point though MJJ_Z6RR and one which should be checked out.
Quote from: MJJ_ZX6RR on February 09, 2012, 04:26:03 PM
Lots of pictures of the 2010 model aux leads and how to get them on my site if you want to take a look - http://www.trackandrace.com/workshop (http://www.trackandrace.com/workshop) and follow the links to the GTR bit.
Very useful. I'm going to put that site in the useful info thread if that's ok
But, and maybe I am missing something here, every SatNav lead I have ever used ends in a male cigarette lighter socket that contains a voltage transformer. If you cut that off, and wire into the bike direct, you will be feeding 12.5V ish into the unit that normally requires about 7V. I doubt it will last long.
Martin.
err maybe I'm missing something instead... When I got the zumo I got a lead with the usual cig end for car (or bike if socket available, yes it is...) AND a hard wire 'kit' with leads and small black box 'in-line' (fuse/transformer....?) on end of wire two bare wires that I want to plug into the aux cable - as per start of thread. When I bought the 2nd kit to put on 2nd bike - I got all the same bits and bobs inc another h/wire kit. + Oh on the zumo 220 the cradle is NOT wired/active the lead (cig end or hard wire) goes into back of unit. Very waterproof looking cover for the cable end when not plugged into the unit.
And finally... took advice and went to Halfords and bought various male/female bullet connectors.... -ok so not stripped bike down yet, but (and its a big but) looking at the pictures in t'other thread - I am not convinced the bullets (red or blue) from halfords will be the correct size :-( (for the plug into the aux cable on bike, before anyone says that it doesnt matter what size they are :smiley:
It does matter what size they are, the sizes I quoted were from the container on the seale=y connectors that I have... (I bought a substantial amount cos I use a lot)... but you shouldn't have any real problems finding the correct size to fit your bike.
Something along these lines is a useful kit to have... but you don't need to spend too much... there's loadsa places where you can buy simular kits with crimpimg tool.. in fac I think Maplins do one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTORCYCLE-3-9mm-BULLET-CONNECTOR-KIT-CRIMPING-TOOL-/360369589377?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item53e7b38c81[/b]
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on February 09, 2012, 10:33:31 PM
Very useful. I'm going to put that site in the useful info thread if that's ok
Of course, no problem.
As for the OP, I hope I have not confused matters too much with my comment about transformers built into the lighter socket. I should have mentioned that I am still using a car SatNav and a clear plastic freezer bag to keep the rain off - not exactly cutting edge bike SatNav knowledge here :oops:
Martin
are the black and black/ yellow aux wires with bullet connectors live all the time (I know the black/yellow is a negative)
ive just connected to them (after extending them with good old idiot proof red and black wires) for my zumo 660 and wanted to know if they time out, go off when engine is stopped or when key knob is turned off etc.
The aux wires are ignition controlled and power off when the ignition is turned off.
cheers for that burchy!!
im using the motorcycle mount that came with the zumo but it doesn't feel right stuck out in the middle of nowhere attached to the clutch lever handlebar clamp.
I suppose its nearer my line of sight and, on the continent, is in the direction of oncoming traffic which can kill you a bit more.
Invest in one of these.
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/Fingers/100_0871.jpg) (http://s151.photobucket.com/user/Jaffa_Cake101/media/Fingers/100_0871.jpg.html)
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/Fingers/100_0869.jpg) (http://s151.photobucket.com/user/Jaffa_Cake101/media/Fingers/100_0869.jpg.html)
I have a Kawasaki accessory Sat Nav mount that I'll sell you £10.00 + P&P, it mounts to the Yolk and is adjustable and dead solid, I think I also have a ProjectD one somewhere which is stainless steel but would be a tad more pricey.
if you're interested P.M me :smiley: