News:

1400 GTR - A beast

Main Menu

Re-shimming the valve gear.

Started by doebag, November 03, 2017, 11:01:24 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

doebag

#30
No, headlight and fairing remain in place.
The front mounting bolt is up above the mirror, to left of instrument cluster.

My version of your photograph......
'Dying a'int much of a living, boy'
Outlaw Josey Wales

badaboum

Thanks

I will work on this monday morning

I hope i'll be able to do this

THis is pretty hectic!!

SIncerely
French 2008 GTR 1400
-> Motax back wheel cover
-> Phillips H4 Xenon light
-> 2 motorcycles speakers+amplifier+remote
-> Integrated Hugel GPS+MP3 player in the ''glove box''
-> Kawasaki Top Case
-> Cee Baleys Screen
-> Akrapovich Silencer

doebag

Quote from: badaboum on January 19, 2018, 10:15:20 AM
Thanks

I will work on this monday morning

I hope i'll be able to do this

THis is pretty hectic!!

SIncerely
Keep reporting back. Getting access is a pain, once you are in there, the actual measuring and shim changing is not too bad.
'Dying a'int much of a living, boy'
Outlaw Josey Wales

Freddy

Quote from: doebag on January 19, 2018, 11:38:33 AM
Keep reporting back. Getting access is a pain, once you are in there, the actual measuring and shim changing is not too bad.

I can't agree.  It's no job for a novice or even the semi-skilled.  It's a good thing to know one's limitation and stop there.

PRD

This is why I get mine done by my mechanic!
BMW = Bring More Wallet

doebag

Quote from: Freddy on January 19, 2018, 11:07:59 PM
I can't agree.  It's no job for a novice or even the semi-skilled.  It's a good thing to know one's limitation and stop there.

I agree too, 'a man's got to know his limitations' [Dirty Harry Callaghan, 1973]
But if you are competent, then once the cams are exposed, measuring clearances and changing shims in no more difficult than other bikes, in fact with the cam chain on the end of the crankshaft, there is no risk of losing the chain into the bottom of the engine, as on some older bikes.
'Dying a'int much of a living, boy'
Outlaw Josey Wales

doebag

Quote from: PRD on January 20, 2018, 08:33:07 AM
This is why I get mine done by my mechanic!
I don't know what Kawasaki charge for this job, but I guess a big part of the labour charge, is removing/refitting body work etc.
'Dying a'int much of a living, boy'
Outlaw Josey Wales

badaboum

#37
Guys

So far I didn't found it hard or needed to be a mecanics to arrive where I am. It's just a pain in the ass because the amount of parts to remove (and to reffit) is crazy

In france, the 42k service is between 800 to 900€
French 2008 GTR 1400
-> Motax back wheel cover
-> Phillips H4 Xenon light
-> 2 motorcycles speakers+amplifier+remote
-> Integrated Hugel GPS+MP3 player in the ''glove box''
-> Kawasaki Top Case
-> Cee Baleys Screen
-> Akrapovich Silencer

Freddy

#38
Quote from: doebag on January 20, 2018, 09:35:37 AM
I agree too, 'a man's got to know his limitations' [Dirty Harry Callaghan, 1973]
But if you are competent, then once the cams are exposed, measuring clearances and changing shims in no more difficult than other bikes 'with shim-under-bucket-4x4-valve-head'  in fact with the cam chain on the end of the crankshaft, there is no risk of losing the chain into the bottom of the engine, as on some older bikes.

Agreed - competent, being the operative word but it's not simple or easy even when somewhat experienced.  It is more complex and difficult than most due to restricted access.  Let the novice and semi-skilled be warned, very warned. 

Good luck with it badaboum.  You will no doubt find them all within spec, which will save you.

ChrisB

Quote from: Freddy on January 20, 2018, 10:03:32 AM
Agreed - competent, being the operative word but it's not simple or easy even when somewhat experienced.  It is more complex and difficult than most due to restricted access.  Let the novice and semi-skilled be warned, very warned. 

Good luck with it badaboum.  You will no doubt find them all within spec, which will save you.

I also agree. Took my bike to Taylor Brothers last week, a small firm recommended by several people on this forum. I also know that he services the Staffordshire Blood Bikes so comes well recommended. Dropped the bike off Wednesday morning and picked it up on Friday lunchtime. very friendly and knowledgeable, did the job at the price he estimated and additional work at no extra charge. 26,000 mile service including tappet shim inspection £350 to £400 job done. I also got him to put on a rear PR4 GT, which he fitted for a very competitive price. Great people to deal with and I will certainly use them in future for all servicing etc. I live in Stockport which is a 125 mile round trip for me, but I consider it worthwhile.
https://taylorbrothersmotorcycles.co/

Burchy

I've done the shims on a variety of bikes in the past.  ZRx1200, ZZR600, ZX6R and 9R and some Suzukis, but I've just had the shims on the GTR done by Bournemouth Kawasaki.  Rather too cramped for my big mits.

I did pull off all the panels and belly pan.  They also put in new plugs at the same time as it seemed silly not to do so when all the engine is exposed.  It needed all the exhaust valve reshimming and after a bit of juggling, just one new one on the inlet side.

It gave me a good opportunity to give all the ionnerds a good cleaning.

Taking off and refitting the panles myself saved about £200 in labour charges
2025 Versys1100SE<br />1993 ZXR400<br />1991 ZXR750R<br />1979 GS850G

badaboum

#41
Guys

I managed to remove the cylinder head cover and my plugs. They are all within range and looks very good

Now I need to work on my measurement of the clereance...

Any tips?

THanks
French 2008 GTR 1400
-> Motax back wheel cover
-> Phillips H4 Xenon light
-> 2 motorcycles speakers+amplifier+remote
-> Integrated Hugel GPS+MP3 player in the ''glove box''
-> Kawasaki Top Case
-> Cee Baleys Screen
-> Akrapovich Silencer

badaboum

And quick question about the manual

THe mean values are :

exhaust  0,125mm
Inlet      0,145mm

But the standard valves clearence given in the book is :

exhaust : 0,19 to 0,24mm
Inlet        0,12 to 0,17mm

The mean value at inlet is within the clearance range given. So that's ok
For the Exhaust, I don't understand why the mean value is outside the range. Any idea?

French 2008 GTR 1400
-> Motax back wheel cover
-> Phillips H4 Xenon light
-> 2 motorcycles speakers+amplifier+remote
-> Integrated Hugel GPS+MP3 player in the ''glove box''
-> Kawasaki Top Case
-> Cee Baleys Screen
-> Akrapovich Silencer

doebag

Quote from: badaboum on January 24, 2018, 10:34:17 AM
And quick question about the manual

THe mean values are :

exhaust  0,125mm
Inlet      0,145mm

But the standard valves clearance given in the book is :

exhaust : 0,19 to 0,24mm
Inlet        0,12 to 0,17mm

The mean value at inlet is within the clearance range given. So that's ok
For the Exhaust, I don't understand why the mean value is outside the range. Any idea?
It's a misprint/transposition, the mean value of 0.19 to 0.24 is 0.215
'Dying a'int much of a living, boy'
Outlaw Josey Wales

badaboum

Did my measurement twice

All my exhaust value are off.

Removed the ACT, and ordering new shims

French 2008 GTR 1400
-> Motax back wheel cover
-> Phillips H4 Xenon light
-> 2 motorcycles speakers+amplifier+remote
-> Integrated Hugel GPS+MP3 player in the ''glove box''
-> Kawasaki Top Case
-> Cee Baleys Screen
-> Akrapovich Silencer