West Yorkshire - Nippy Normans fuse block fitting

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Quote from: Busa1400 on December 21, 2016, 09:23:17 PM
I am not desperate to have it done as to be fair the weather is not good for getting it out and about, but as soon as it is it needs to be done.

The way it is wired at the moment is straight across the battery so the pins stay live all the time.

The photo is not a good but it shows the pins that are live, and once rain gets on the pins risk of shorting out. 

I really dont mind paying someone to do it, its my baby and I want it to be right, you know what its like when  you have that niggling that its just not right !!


I fitted the same holder for the 660 and as everyone states I just attached the bullet connectors and wired to the bullets under the rubber boot at the front no need to cut it like in the video just prise it up a bit  :yes:


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Macskwak

Guys just a heads up. I used to do electrical work years ago and houses often had rewireable fuses. That is effectively what you have here on the bike. My point is that rewireable fuses had a rating of times two before they blew which means a five amp fuse would blow when the fault reached ten amps. If you change your fuse from five to ten amp and run a load of equipment up to say eight ampsthen its possible for the fuse to hold for a while. This means the circuit wiring may be getting degraded over time and lead to faults later. Are you sure that the wiring of the auxhilary power circuits is the same size as the earlier bikes with ten amp fuses. Just a thought thats all 🤔🤔
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doebag

The original fuseway was 10A on the early bikes.
Later models with grip heaters have a 5A fuseway and a 5A fuesway for the auxiliary socket. These are both fed from the same cable so effectively 10A.
Also the grip heaters switch off at low engine revs, so if you use a mini compressor there is no chance of the grip heaters still drawing on the cable/fuse.
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Quote from: doebag on December 22, 2016, 10:56:06 AM
The original fuseway was 10A on the early bikes.
Later models with grip heaters have a 5A fuseway and a 5A fuesway for the auxiliary socket. These are both fed from the same cable so effectively 10A.
Also the grip heaters switch off at low engine revs, so if you use a mini compressor there is no chance of the grip heaters still drawing on the cable/fuse.

:agree:  plus a compressor should only be running for a relatively short period of time, and hopefully not on a frequent basis
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ROG .

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Quote from: Busa1400 on December 21, 2016, 09:23:17 PM
I am not desperate to have it done as to be fair the weather is not good for getting it out and about, but as soon as it is it needs to be done.

The way it is wired at the moment is straight across the battery so the pins stay live all the time.

The photo is not a good but it shows the pins that are live, and once rain gets on the pins risk of shorting out. 

I really dont mind paying someone to do it, its my baby and I want it to be right, you know what its like when  you have that niggling that its just not right !!


Just to clarify, what we are looking at there is a Garmin mount in a Touratech locking cradle, there should be a removable cover with the Garmin mount to reduce the chance of rain ingress whilst the GPS isn't mounted

In your original post you were asking about a Nippy Normans Fuzeblock power supply, which is something different.

I understand the weather isn't good at the moment, in fact its crap, but as you are only in Leeds, why don't you call here (I'm only in Leyburn) and I'll fit it all for you

Anyway its up to you, I'm only too pleased to assist....I'll even make you a brew  :yes:   
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ROG .

BigAlan

Rog, if I nip round will you wash and polish my bike?

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Quote from: BigAlan on December 22, 2016, 01:12:45 PM
Rog, if I nip round will you wash and polish my bike?

Ta.

I'd be happy to Alan, if I can't there's a bloke not too far away that is a bit handy with a sponge polish and duster   :mfr_lol: 
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ROG .

Macskwak

Quote from: doebag on December 22, 2016, 10:56:06 AM
The original fuseway was 10A on the early bikes.
Later models with grip heaters have a 5A fuseway and a 5A fuesway for the auxiliary socket. These are both fed from the same cable so effectively 10A.
Also the grip heaters switch off at low engine revs, so if you use a mini compressor there is no chance of the grip heaters still drawing on the cable/fuse.

Ah right doebag thats handy with the heated grips closing off although if guys are uprating there fuse to ten amp on there aux then effectively if they put lots of gadgets on their bikes they could be drawing up to fifteen amps through wires designed for ten with their heated grips on at the same time. Still not sure thats wise long term as the cables could get warm but not burn. This heating will degrade the insulation over time. I think i would reroute heated grips through seperate relay and up to the battery to be safe. This would free up the aux cable to take ten amps of toys.
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Wookie


Wookie

#24
Hang on a min here .......
Since when we're heated grips RPM dependant ????
It's a case of on is on and off is off.
Doubt me ? .. Ok switch on motor and let it tick over with grips turned on ... me thinks that they will warm up ..
Well mine does and it's a 16 plate
However low output from a dieing rectifier it would SEEM that they have shut down .. well the haven't shut down ..they are still drawing current (if switched on )just not enough to warm ya pinkies  :popcorn:

Mikey

Quote from: Wookie on December 22, 2016, 08:10:22 AM
Aye .if you lived pop north you could have popped in to Wooks cave and I would be more than happy to dood it 4 u  :smiley:
On the subject of dealers.
I had to educate M&S about the aux supply front and rear.
I considered nippy norms . And it's GOOD kit...
However I created a multi spur from the front aux supply and as the kit is low amp draw it works fine (sat nav ultimate add ons phone box and power supply and camera power )from the rear aup I am running the auto com from there .
I upgraded the fuse from 5 amp to 10 .
Hope this helps  :smiley:

In English does this mean I can piggy back another socket off the existing one.
Never Too Old

Lonewolf

There are already two auxiliary sockets on the GTR. One at the front near side and one to the rear.

doebag

Quote from: Wookie on December 22, 2016, 02:12:02 PM
Hang on a min here .......
Since when we're heated grips RPM dependant ????
It's a case of on is on and off is off.
Doubt me ? .. Ok switch on motor and let it tick over with grips turned on ... me thinks that they will warm up ..
Well mine does and it's a 16 plate
However low output from a dieing rectifier it would SEEM that they have shut down .. well the haven't shut down ..they are still drawing current (if switched on )just not enough to warm ya pinkies  :popcorn:

From the owners handbook

The grip warmers are fitted with an automatic shift switch to prevent the battery from running down.
When the motorcycle is slowing down or at a stop the switch may be turned off automatically
Once the motorcycle returns to normal operating speed the switch  will turn on automatically.


This is on my 2011 model,
'Dying a'int much of a living, boy'
Outlaw Josey Wales

O.C.

Tho O.P refers to one of these, from which it is possible to safely run several accessories. ..........phew that was hard work  :mfr_lol: 



http://www.nippynormans.com/f650stf650csf650gsf650-dakar/fuzeblock-switchable-fuse-panel   
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ROG .

Wookie

Well ah will be buggered  :smiley:
Seems like over kill if that's the case coz as long as ya genny and rectifier is in good operating nick I can't see the need .
Tick over produces 14+ volts  :smiley: