The waiting is unbearable

[Lonewolf]

Amazing how a difference in colour can change the appearance of the same bike..nice pic     

OC, it's not the same bike, there's two different bikes there. 

[virginiajim]

Tears of joy?

Not quite...

[Debs]

Tears of joy?

More like 'cutting onions' type of crying... 

[Charlie747]

More like 'cutting onions' type of crying... 

[O.C.]

OC, it's not the same bike, there's two different bikes there. 

WOW Wolf...really   

I meant two same brand same model bikes can look so different in different colours .....DUH       

[Debs]

WOW Wolf...really   

I meant two same brand same model bikes can look so different in different colours .....DUH       

OC... How silly can he be... 

[virginiajim]

There's two BMW's there?

[Lonewolf]

I can be really silly, I thought you thought it was one and the same bike!

[O.C.]

I can be really silly, I thought you thought it was one and the same bike!

ya daft apeth 

[Charlie747]

Ok I've  done about 700 miles on the K16..................

GTR
Fast
Fun
Raw
Sharp
Good looking
Precise high speed stability
Top end rush
Acceptable quality for price

K16
Comfy
Soft
Engine for torque
Vage high speed stability (GTL variants restricted to approx 135 mph)
Transmission has no place on a motorcycle let alone one of this price
Bells & whistles do not make up for poor basic spec. On a bike just shy of £20k new not even got span adjustable levers

Am I disappointed........No I went in with my eyes open.

But you have 2 bikes the same ......sport tourers! 

They may clam to wear the same badge but they are 2 very different rides

K16. Easy to ride, comfy, effortless. South of France in the morning.....no prob

GTR. Rewards for your effort and focus with near sports bikes thrills but with the practicality of getting your curry home in one piece

Just don't expect the K16 to give you raw naked trills like the GTR.  It's playing the soft long game.

Now where do I get loud cans for a K16 ? 

[PRD]

GTR's rule. Yeah

[pross]

Ok I've  done about 700 miles on the K16..................

GTR
Fast
Fun
Raw
Sharp
Good looking
Precise high speed stability
Top end rush
Acceptable quality for price

K16
Comfy
Soft
Engine for torque
Vage high speed stability (GTL variants restricted to approx 135 mph)
Transmission has no place on a motorcycle let alone one of this price
Bells & whistles do not make up for poor basic spec. On a bike just shy of £20k new not even got span adjustable levers

Am I disappointed........No I went in with my eyes open.

But you have 2 bikes the same ......sport tourers! 

They may clam to wear the same badge but they are 2 very different rides

K16. Easy to ride, comfy, effortless. South of France in the morning.....no prob

GTR. Rewards for your effort and focus with near sports bikes thrills but with the practicality of getting your curry home in one piece

Just don't expect the K16 to give you raw naked trills like the GTR.  It's playing the soft long game.

Now where do I get loud cans for a K16 ? 

Nice and too the point Bro.
Just enjoy and keep updating us 

[O.C.]

Thanks Charlie....and a nice concise report. 

It goes to show that Journalists can pen whatever reports they like, many of which are instrumental in helping us through a new bike purchasing decision, but such reports are often based on short term association with said machine.

The real place to get an unbiased consumer based report is a relevant forum where the 'warts an all' truth tends to come to the surface.

I always have, and suspect I always will rely on an extended road test of a potential new machine to help me decide whether or not that machine/bike is the one for me to live with, even this policy can prove  to be misleading and problematic, TBH which of us has never bought a bike that after a while hasn't completely lived up to our expectations.

There's a saying which goes something like " you can please all the people some of the time, you can please some people all the time, but it's difficult to please all the people all the time"

Good luck with the K16 Charlie (and Wolf) I'm sure that you will both enjoy your respective bikes enormously   

[Lonewolf]

Well here's my report on the K16 from the point of view that I perhaps don't analyse bikes with such scrutiny as Sir Charles!



It's bloody great!

[PRD]

Would it be fair to say that the BMW is a tad over priced for what it is.