Vehicle tax change updates

[Ant]

Question for the 'in the know' guys 

Adding to Stephens post, with the ANPR thingy, doesn't that work from the front number plate or is it both or what ? 

[Lonewolf]

Question for the 'in the know' guys 

Adding to Stephens post, with the ANPR thingy, doesn't that work from the front number plate or is it both or what ? 

Depends on the ANPR system, some are fixed and tend to get front plates as you approach them and there's the ones fitted in the traffic cars which are in the front and rear windscreens and sometimes even on the roof's of the traffic cars, these will get either front or rear plates. Then there's your mobile ANPR systems which are sometimes set up at the roadside to catch passing trade, I mean motorists. 

[Ant]

Well I've no problem with them at all, if caught with no Tax you should have to pay 3 x the amount due, from when it ran out !!!

[Rusty]

"10,000 hits a month" eh Steve ??? .... I'm really biting my lip here  ! 

[tugg781]

  Bloody good idea  RESPECT

We can still display the disc holder with a poppy inside instead?

[Lonewolf]

"10,000 hits a month" eh Steve ??? .... I'm really biting my lip here  ! 

It could have been 1000 hits but I'm sure I was once told 10000. Either way the majority get ignored.

[PRD]

What I don't understand is why my bike is more expensive to tax than my car. Surely a bike should be cheaper. Less use, road damage, emissions etc.

[viper]

What I don't understand is why my bike is more expensive to tax than my car. Surely a bike should be cheaper. Less use, road damage, emissions etc.

its a very good point, there is a movement at the moment to rectify this. Bikes have always been taxed on engine size rather than emissions just like cars used to be. Many bikes would have a zero tax disc if they were taxed the same as cars.
Emissions have never been part of the mot test for bikes so that would be added if the taxation rules were to be changed,

[Lonewolf]

Hmm, yes an interesting point, I'd never considered that before.

[Rusty]

I am amazed this has got the go ahead. This new system will rely entirely upon  stopping these vehicles and dealing with the driver at that time after ANPR has been activated .... As Steve says 10,000 a day or a week it won't matter. If you can find an officer that's going to stop someone as a result of this then I would be truly amazed. Having said that having stopped a car/ bike it then may become apparent that there is no tax on it which is currently a £100 FPN but a " hit " on ANPR for no tax won't even get put out on the airwaves. 

[viper]

I am amazed this has got the go ahead. This new system will rely entirely upon  stopping these vehicles and dealing with the driver at that time after ANPR has been activated .... As Steve says 10,000 a day or a week it won't matter. If you can find an officer that's going to stop someone as a result of this then I would be truly amazed. Having said that having stopped a car/ bike it then may become apparent that there is no tax on it which is currently a £100 FPN but a " hit " on ANPR for no tax won't even get put out on the airwaves. 

does the continous tax dept still exist, a dvla initiative that automatically fines owners of none taxed vehicles that are not sorned?

[Rusty]

You know what Mr Viper I don't know the answer to that question. There have been so many cutbacks in so many departments I don't know what exists on a day to day basis... Anyone else know ?

[Lonewolf]

There are never any cut backs in your department though are there Lord Rusty. 

[viper]

this paperless thing is already in, we picked up our new car today and the dealer had to convince me that no tax disc dsplayed was legal!, they said its been in since last july for new vehicles

[Lonewolf]

If a dealer has told you that then I guess it must be true, cant see them risking pissing a customer off for the sake of simply putting a piece of paper in the windscreen.

We picked up a new works car however only last week, 63 plate, from one of our workshops and that has got a tax disc displayed.