Hi Viz clothing .... Opinions

[Kwikasfuki]

With the high vis on I've always found people do a double take. Which, as tommytool, is great as it allows you to make progress.

Obviously there's no accounting for everyone's action but high vis IMO is a must

[O.C.]

I have a high vis jacket from H.G and a silver C3 helmet

Gillian wears an Oxford High vis bib over her H.G clothing

I reckon you should give yourself every chance of being seen ,and evidence suggests that wearing high vis improves others awareness of you whilst on the bike

[Gonome]

I have a flip up but no boom mike. (Although I did used to have one).
Dave, (2kwacks) and I earlier this year, do we look like cops?

Look like a right dodgy pair of charecters to me

[viper]

mmmmm, after reading what you have all riwritten, i may have been wrong on this one, if the polite jackets / vests are about promoting safety and allowing good progress through traffic then its got to be a good thing, If some tool mistakes you then I guess its his problem.

I was behind a numpty today who was on a beaten up bandit with a small child  ( approx 8 yr old) on the back, wearing jeans and trainers and a very large adult helmet, he was ripping wheelies from the lights and hammering it to the next set where i would be behind him again. I thought to myself i bet he would not be doing this if I had one of those Polite vests on

[lord vader]

Personally i ride with out any hi viz or any thing that gets me noticed, for one i dont want to look like a prick and two i dont want do get noticed by the police when i am doing 160mph down the M55 

[Cartman]

HATE IT!!

Fundementaly if someone is not looking they won't see you, it really is that simple. However having said that if it's dark or raining I do slip a hi-viz (REv'it) waistcoat on over my kit, just to make me even more obvious to the miopic box jockeys. In daylight, especially in the sun, I see no need, if someone doesnt see a 6'3" bloke on a very large, well lit bike, wearing a yellow and white helmet, then wearing a hi-vis vest will make no difference.

I spend a lot of money on kit to keep me warm, or more importantly cool, and a vest ruins all the lovely advantages of gore-tex etc. I have no wish to look like a policeman or a road mender either!

So in summary I do see some advantages depending on conditions, but I want to choose when and if I wear one. Once upon a time biking was for rebels 

[Debs]

They should concentrate on the idiots who dont even wear protective clothing before banging on about Hi Viz vests etc!!

Winds me up when I see these morons who think "Ive been riding for years and never had a problem" attitude. Line them up against the wall... 

[lord vader]

REAL REBELS, well done Cartman....It wont be long before Hi viz will be come compulsary thanks to riders who want to look like Polite Policemen, what next 33 bhp 1400 GTR s with a top speed of 56mph   

[Mogster]

REAL REBELS, well done Cartman....It wont be long before Hi viz will be come compulsary thanks to riders who want to look like Polite Policemen, what next 33 bhp 1400 GTR s with a top speed of 56mph   

But what will happen is that if you are involved in an accident in low light conditions and its a bit of a 50/50 thing don't be suprised if it goes against you because the other side bangs on about the fact that you have a duty of care to make yourself seen.

This has already happened with the mini indicators, insurance lawyers jump on this if there was any doubt as to whether or not you actually bothered to use them before being pole axed by a driver.

Now there is no bigger anti-social rebel type Biker than me, but even i use hiz viz when I go into london.

And Hi Viz will end up being compulsory because twats on fookin weekend bikes ride like c**ts on a sunday and annoy the fook out of everybody else, gone are the days of being able to Hoon without due care and attention, there are is too much distraction for drivers to pay attention, and waaay too many riders that think just because they've done an advanced rider course, they can ride above their own ability.

If you want to stop Hi Viz, join MAG or the BMF or get off ya arse and write to ya MP.

[Lonewolf]

Perhaps I'm happy to wear high viz because its just a natural thing for me to stick on a high viz jacket and I probably dont give it a right lot of thought. I completely understand why some folk dont want to wear high viz and that's absolutely fine. Take Asif for example in his recent spill over at Bradford, he had high viz on and two additional lights on the font of the GTR. So that's six lights and a bright high viz bib and yet someone still pullled out on him.
You can only do what you can, the advantage is that the other party's insurance company will seriously struggle to suggest that you were not doing your bit to protect yourself and be seen thereby hopefully making the process of your claim relatively easier and less complicated.

[viper]

if you have a non fault accident and you are not wearing a high viz, does it go against you ??



Is this the one

http://www.highvisibility.uk.com/cycling/polite-cycling-waistcoat

[100milesaway]

A lot of sense there Mr Wolf, but I think ,that if Asif had been wearing my pink armbands  he would have gone sailing serenely by whilst the pillock that hit him was sat by the side of the road rubbing his eyes, whilst contemplating which A&E to visit so he could get his retinas checked out.

[O.C.]

But what will happen is that if you are involved in an accident in low light conditions and its a bit of a 50/50 thing don't be suprised if it goes against you because the other side bangs on about the fact that you have a duty of care to make yourself seen.

This has already happened with the mini indicators, insurance lawyers jump on this if there was any doubt as to whether or not you actually bothered to use them before being pole axed by a driver.

Now there is no bigger anti-social rebel type Biker than me, but even i use hiz viz when I go into london.

And Hi Viz will end up being compulsory because twats on fookin weekend bikes ride like c**ts on a sunday and annoy the fook out of everybody else, gone are the days of being able to Hoon without due care and attention, there are is too much distraction for drivers to pay attention, and waaay too many riders that think just because they've done an advanced rider course, they can ride above their own ability.

If you want to stop Hi Viz, join MAG or the BMF or get off ya arse and write to ya MP.

Mogs , I totally, utterly and completely















































AGREE 

[Lonewolf]

Viper, no it wouldn't go against you as you are under no obligation to wear high viz, (currently) but I would just like to be in a strong position if I ever got knocked off and be able to say, I had four lights on, a high viz vest and the GoPro will prove that I wasn't speeding how the hell didn't you see me? 

[Mogster]

if you have a non fault accident and you are not wearing a high viz, does it go against you ??

Is this the one

http://www.highvisibility.uk.com/cycling/polite-cycling-waistcoat

Yup thas the one.... and no thas not what meant... the point is if the plod aren't interested to atributing blame to anyone and it goes to a small claims court, both the insurance companies with do their level best to wiggle out of it.

for example ...In cases where 'whiplash' is being claimed for, insurance assessors are now instructed to see if the seat was adjusted properly in accordance with recomendations found in the owners manual... if not they will use it to wiggle out or reduce payment.

I know that this happens as one of my clients is a consultant for the insurance industry, his job is to look at instances where there is are high payouts and look for loopholes and find ways that companies can get out of paying ..... this is all the fault of the 'Ambulance Chasers' btw....
so you are looking at things like,
Dark tints on windows and visors when the light is poor.
Are the tyres reccomended for the vehical (ooh err PR3's  ) and are they at the right pressure... so could it have effected braking?
Shitty mini indicators,
Badly adjusted seats... usally being sat in by some oaf in a 106
Children in the rear seats.... yes really!!

The the list is long and petty, but this is what happens when you make a claim, someone looks very hard and sees if they can wiggle out of it...
soooo do ya self a favour, if you are going out in the gloom of winter put a Hi Viz on... would it really hurt that much..

Ride safe..

Mogs