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Started by Mogster, May 31, 2012, 07:34:57 AM

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Boomer

08 model bought Aug 2007.
Never had any vibration from the front apart from ABS activation.
Never had any disc warpage.

However, I do clean my discs with brake cleaner about once a month.
Currently @ 49,400 miles and still on OEM discs.
They are at 4.2 and 4.1mm though and will soon be replaced.
I used OEM pads for first 25k, EBC HH for 22k and currently have Ferodo HH's.
George "Boomer" Garratt
Wickford, UK
http://www.gtr1000.com

Mogster

right...... test done...'Put the Spud launcher back in the box Igor'..........'yeths mathster'.....

The spud launcher makes only a tiny difference to the vibration, my fingers are tingling even now, ...... I got the bike out this morning and was up to crusing speed within 2 mins... as I live close to the M10/M1... and for the first couple of mins the vibration was dreadfull in fact worse than usuall....could be because i don't usually go up the M10 straight from home sos the bike was cold.

But..... the interesting thing was that the vibration diminished as the bike warmed up  :huh: it didn't go completely but settled to it's usually tingely-ness....

I'm wondering if the engine mounts could be at an incorrect torque setting??? not being an engineery chap i dont know if this could cause this.

I think that once I get back i'm going to contact Kawasaki officialy and complain......if anyone has contacted them previously about a vibe issue (Alan??) ...and has a contact there, could they forward me the name...ta.

If I dont get this sorted I'm afraid the bike is going to have to go, I really do love the thing but I can't live with this ...it's supposed to be a long distance tourer, not a hand numbing machine.... and besides surely there is a safety consideration if ones hands are going numb then you can't be in proper control of the bike.

Cheers Mogs
She is like the Bumblebee, she should not fly....... and yet she does!

O.C.

The 'vibes' or the 'buzz' as it is referred to across the pond really shouldn't exist on a modern machine.

My 2010 model was terrible, resulting in very, very tingly hands (read numb) and me changing the bike for summat from the dark side....but enough of that  :mfr_lol:
BE KIND...


ROG .

Mogster

The thing that irratates me most of all, is that we are expected to accept this and are given nothing but attitude from the dealers...

Again, i wonder, if this is a curse of modern 'stiff frames' .... Smartys Bandit, with its frame made from gummy bears and bolted together with number plate bolts.... had no vibes at all and was a smooth as a pole dancers arse..
She is like the Bumblebee, she should not fly....... and yet she does!

Rusty

"Smooth as a pole dancers arse" !!!!!!  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:

frenchbiker

Quote from: Boomer on June 04, 2012, 06:27:50 PM
08 model bought Aug 2007.
Never had any vibration from the front apart from ABS activation.
Never had any disc warpage.

However, I do clean my discs with brake cleaner about once a month.
Currently @ 49,400 miles and still on OEM discs.
They are at 4.2 and 4.1mm though and will soon be replaced.
I used OEM pads for first 25k, EBC HH for 22k and currently have Ferodo HH's.

Same here, still OEM after 42000 Kms, it seems that the earlier models 2007 and 2008 have the least of these mechanical issues, disk warp, shock spring loader etc...

BigAlan

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But..... the interesting thing was that the vibration diminished as the bike warmed up  :huh: it didn't go completely but settled to it's usually tingely-

I think that once I get back i'm going to contact Kawasaki officialy and complain......if anyone has contacted them previously about a vibe issue (Alan??) ...and has a contact there, could they forward me the name...ta.

If I dont get this sorted I'm afraid the bike is going to have to go, I really do love the thing but I can't live with this ...it's supposed to be a long distance tourer, not a hand numbing machine.... and besides surely there is a safety consideration if ones hands are going numb then you can't be in proper control of the bike.

Cheers Mogs
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I have been in email contact with Simon Chitty ([email protected]) who knows all about ,y situation, and indeed the latest events where new disks and pads have been fitted but the vibration and noise still exists.

If you choose to email him you can quote my name Alan Crowder from Oxford and Premier Bikes quite happily, keep me informed either here or a pm as the more he knows about these hassles the better.

Thanks
Alan
Ducati owner now but I used to have a Black one, the fastest version.
Previous, Sprint ST (2), VFR 800, Fireblade's (4) SP1, VTR1000, GPZ900, CB250, BSA Bantam D14/4, Suzuki TS100, SX200.

Mogster

email sent to Kawasaki ....soooo lets see what happens now  :hammer:
She is like the Bumblebee, she should not fly....... and yet she does!

Kwikasfuki

#38
Hi Mogster,

Could you fill in the details in this thread: http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,1717.0.html

Just so we can keep a track of what's going on.

Thanks

Edit: I see you already have! Quick of the mark - must be those pole dancers ;)
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MarkyMark

Owned a 2009 for 2 months. Done 1500 miles and satisfied with the package.

Just back from a two up long weekend in France - Le Mans area.

Happy with the bike - did notice vibe when firm braking required.

Winston Smith

Clean the bobbins before they get compacted and overheat/warp
Four is fun.  Six is sex.

I Dream of a World where Chickens can Cross the Road without having their Motives Questioned

BigAlan

My bike is going in Thursday to have the following checked, front wheel bearings, headstock bearings and engine torque settings along with a general look over to see if the problem with the vibration is apparent, a new tyre is being fitted (PR3) at my request.

Will advise afterwards.

Alan
Ducati owner now but I used to have a Black one, the fastest version.
Previous, Sprint ST (2), VFR 800, Fireblade's (4) SP1, VTR1000, GPZ900, CB250, BSA Bantam D14/4, Suzuki TS100, SX200.

TRIGGERHAPPY

Did a 466 miles trip yesterday. Nice trip,ok weather and good roads. But warped my front breakdiscs for the second time.
First time last year after 1500-1600 miles,don't remember exactly. Didn't get to change them before 4670 miles.
And yesteday when I noticed the vibrations it read 6215 miles.
Spoke to the dealer today but the guy responsibe for handling warranty issues wheren't in before wednesday.
Not happy,I reckon there will be a discussion his time who's gonna pay. Talked with several kawa dealers here in Norway to day,and they all say there have been no issues regarding warped disc's. Stange then that I have had two.
KTM SuperDuke GT -16-??
KAW GTR 1400 -08..11-16
HON ST 1100 _-99..11-11
SUZ GSXR K1 _-07..09-11
YAM YZF 1000_-97..05-09
YAM FZR 1000_-95..04-05
NO BIKE!!!!!!!!!!!--..99-04
HON ST1100__ -94..96-99
KAW ZZR 600__-94..95-96
YAM TDM 850__-92..95-95
KAW ZZR 600__-93..94-95
YAM FJ 1100___-86..91-94
YAM XJ 750____-83..87-91

BigAlan

Have a look at filling in the common faul recording part at the top of the page, the more info we get then the better informed we can be.

Alan
Ducati owner now but I used to have a Black one, the fastest version.
Previous, Sprint ST (2), VFR 800, Fireblade's (4) SP1, VTR1000, GPZ900, CB250, BSA Bantam D14/4, Suzuki TS100, SX200.

TRIGGERHAPPY

Changed tyres this evening + adding a few farkles(will post more about this in another topic)
Checked the caliper and brake pads,all ok. Fitted the wheel,caliper and the front fender as described in the manual.
Did a test ride and guess.... the brakes dont't vibrate anymore. Going to take a longer test ride tomorrow.
KTM SuperDuke GT -16-??
KAW GTR 1400 -08..11-16
HON ST 1100 _-99..11-11
SUZ GSXR K1 _-07..09-11
YAM YZF 1000_-97..05-09
YAM FZR 1000_-95..04-05
NO BIKE!!!!!!!!!!!--..99-04
HON ST1100__ -94..96-99
KAW ZZR 600__-94..95-96
YAM TDM 850__-92..95-95
KAW ZZR 600__-93..94-95
YAM FJ 1100___-86..91-94
YAM XJ 750____-83..87-91