clip of gtr1400 going down!

[GTRTONY]

Having just watched this for the first time i  have to say that the standard of riding by the GTR rider wasn't very good. Totally un-smooth through the bends, hanging off the bike, wrong positions on bends and obviously too fast for his capabilities. surprised that the camera bike followed him into the cloud of dust on the wrong side of the road also.....

we all need to take more care, and if need be training  ::)

[Lonewolf]

Yep, I've been riding bikes since I was 17, so 30 yrs but I'm putting myself through advanced training and loving it.  :)

[100milesaway]

My opinion for what it's worth is, no i dont think his riding was brilliant but I dont think it was shocking either. There seemed to be a lot of road on his near side that if used would have made it far easier for him on left  handers  which would have saved him having to crank the thing over as far, (although I dont think his lean angles were excessive). Those wondering about what impact traction control may have had!!!!! well we can only guess, and my guess is no it would'nt have made any change to the outcome, I know from my own bike that traction control does help, but I think you need to be something like upright for it to assist you. lets hope the bloke got away with it as regards personal injury is concerned, and he probably did has he didnt seem to hit anything apart from the earths crust. But he was an extreemly lucky lad, as on another day he could have gone off road on his near side and hit one of those telegraph poles, or hit something coming the other way once he had crossed over. Whilst watching the clip over again I  think the actual road surface actually did for him more than anything else, when the bike "let go " there seemed to be a cloud of what looked like dust puff up. Any way whatever the outcome lets hope lessons were learned. As for his mate !!!!!! words fail me.

[Andy]

Having just watched this for the first time i  have to say that the standard of riding by the GTR rider wasn't very good. Totally un-smooth through the bends, hanging off the bike, wrong positions on bends and obviously too fast for his capabilities. surprised that the camera bike followed him into the cloud of dust on the wrong side of the road also.....

we all need to take more care, and if need be training  ::)

I agree, looks like he learnt to ride by reading the Owners Manual  :( Talking about training I just did some with http://www.ridewellteesvalley.co.uk/ and passed my RoSPA Gold  ;D

[GTRTONY]

WELL DONE LONEWOLF

I am a senior observer with the IAM and have to say, taking training and passing my advanced test back in 2004 was the best biking decision I ever made!all to often do we see bikers who can clearly ride and have been for many years but are sometimes unable to keep up on the 'twistes' at the NSL! the soon catch you up on the straights but are soon lost again when you get a series of bends. any how in my opinion training further to improve does no one any harm!

Tony

[cpettifer]

I really need to get on and do some advanced training / qualification thingy. I keep talking about it and never get round to it. Next year... next year...

[Lonewolf]

I really need to get on and do some advanced training / qualification thingy. I keep talking about it and never get round to it. Next year... next year...

Thats exactly what I have thought for ages. I always thought what's the point? I'm doing the ROSPA at the moment and although I've had some good feedback I'm still learning and improving my technique. I didnt know how it worked before or what was involved but it costs me on average £5 per lesson to replace the guys fuel. Thats it. It just makes perfect sense to do it.

[Martin#30]

I really need to get on and do some advanced training / qualification thingy. I keep talking about it and never get round to it. Next year... next year...

I cannot speak highly enough of advanced training. I passed my IAM test 2 years ago, and the whole observation and training part in the run up was a real eye opener.

It has given me a new dimension to my enjoyment on the bike - when I predict someone is going to do something stupid, it gives me huge pleasure to inwardly smile when the muppetry actually happens rather than getting irate, or hurt.

For anyone even vaguely considering the advanced training, do it. Seriously. You will never look back.

Go in with an open mind, accept that we can all still learn something, and tolerate the fact that the observers and obstructors cannot be seen to advocate speeding, and it is a real pleasurable experience.

Martin.

[Rusty]

Well done to you all ... any training, even after years of riding has to be good not just for you but all other road users ! Keep it up, keep spreading the good news and the good ideas as this can only help road safety and bring down road deaths and casualties ... we are all human and so all make mistakes but we must strive to reduce those risks especially when everyone else is out on the roads too  : ;D

[patrick]

RoSPA recently held its first awards events for its voluntary driver and rider training groups at its Birmingham HQ.

My Group, Shropshire & Powys Advanced Riders www.saparweb.com was awarded 3rd place out of 52 groups nationally and we picked up a cheque for £250 for our funds.

It's very welcome that such groups have at long last been recognised by Rospa at its highest (Chief exec) level. We were specifically commended for our links with outside agencies, notably with Powys County Council where we run their "Ride On" biker assesment / training days and after 3 trial events in 2011 we have been engaged to run these days in 2012.

Without starting an IAM v's Rospa debate I will simply agree totally with Rusty's comment




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[cpettifer]

I could probably find out, but I'm ill, so being lazy! How do I find my local RoSPA group? From what I've heard, I think I prefer the slight difference in approach.

I live in Worcester.

[scotty597]

Maybe the bike was still on its original tyres? They dont inspire confidence. Rubbish tyres/ riding lines...a recipe for disaster.  :-[

Read the tyre link before so I know there are some out there who like them so I apologise in advance. :)

[Lonewolf]

I could probably find out, but I'm ill, so being lazy! How do I find my local RoSPA group? From what I've heard, I think I prefer the slight difference in approach.

I live in Worcester.

If you just do a Google search for Rospa it will locate many links. Have a look and you will see a link on Rospa's official site for "Find your local group" simples.  ;D

[mecki]

I still think the guy made the worst mistake possible - he panicked!
That must be the most common cause for riders to come off in situations like that.
If you panic in a life-threatening situation you're chances of survival decrease dramatically. :(

[patrick]

I could probably find out, but I'm ill, so being lazy! How do I find my local RoSPA group? From what I've heard, I think I prefer the slight difference in approach.

I live in Worcester.

This may help

http://www.roadar.org.uk/groups/westmidlands/index.htm

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