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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« on: April 13, 2019, 12:02:47 pm »
My brother briefly owned a Tracer 900 with full luggage fitted (probably the GT?) and found it quite unsuitable for his relatively gentle riding style. It also suffered quite a few gremlins from new and, as he said when he tried my Versys 1000, it was everything that he hoped the Tracer would be, though too heavy for him (he has back injuries through a lifetime of competitive sports).

The Tracer was very fast, everything shook when on the move as it was so lightly made, and the throttle was like a gun trigger!

He only kept it for a year (even by my brother's standards that is quite a short period) before P/X called against a new Triumph.

Whilst his might have been an isolated case, it was certainly not a comfortable touring bike.

The Dark Side / Re: My new steed.
« on: December 09, 2018, 12:34:08 pm »
Pete, far from new. It is though one of the last of its type (June 2010) before the K1600 replaced it and, in fact, it is slightly older than the GTR that I bought in 2011. It's a one owner bike that has a very full history (all work was carried out by the supplying dealer, and I even have the original P.D.I. Checklist and Handover Document, as well as every invoice for work whilst in the care of its previous owner) that back when it was new, weighed in with a price tag of just a shade under £15,000. It is also well equipped for its duties with me, having the BMW standard fit panniers, to which I have added a GIVI 47 litre top - box. All have liners for convenience. The previous owner has, I understand bought a new GS, so must, I presume, have been happy with the one that I now own?

I had originally intended to buy new, or very nearly new, when I started my search and would probably have done so if I could have. However, in reality, I use the "bigger" bike for two - up riding and holidays in the main, with just enough other miles each year to keep things running smoothly, so it should last me for quite a while yet (I hope). Most of the time, for more local trips, I ride one of the 1970's bikes that I have (and keep adding to the numbers of!).

I have a couple of pictures if you want to see them, however I cannot post to the site (technical incompetence) so will send on by e-mail if you let me have your address.

The Dark Side / Re: My new steed.
« on: December 08, 2018, 02:52:42 pm »
Pete, we found it possible to fit the same lowering kit to the Versys as I used for the rear footrests on the GTR. The problem with the Versys then becomes, however, that at only 5' tall, the reach to the footrests when on board is too great for comfort!

The Dark Side / Re: My new steed.
« on: December 07, 2018, 10:21:27 am »
Steve they certainly have their idiosyncrasies, from the start - up sequence of warning lights and the flashing "Brake Failure" until you move off, to the rather tortuous method of checking the oil level on the GT with its remote oil tank. The riding position is also unusual, described as "crouching jockey" in most road tests of the time.

All of this is, however familiar territory for me and strangely enjoyable for some inexplicable reason.

In all, I expect to hold onto this one for a good while!

The Dark Side / Re: My new steed.
« on: December 06, 2018, 11:02:28 am »
Steve, it's rather lighter and seems well balanced, I can ride feet up without the speedo reading. It certainly moves and, as with my last BMW, I like the linked brakes (via the handlebar lever) and cruise control.

Most of all though, I like the huge torque that means there is lots of power from 2000 rpm onward

I would have  bought a K1600GT, however that really is too heavy for me.

I would have happily kept the  Versys except for the footrest problem, however it does suit me to be back on a BMW.

The Dark Side / Re: My new steed.
« on: December 05, 2018, 10:18:07 am »
I started with the thought that the R1200 RT would suit us best, however when we visited the dealership, neither of us were keen on the enormous fairing and general bulk of the bike. However, there was a red K1300 GT that that just been in part - exchange and was due to be sold under the BMW Premium Used Programme, with its two - year warranty etc. We both liked it after trying it for size, and I remembered that I had ridden one a few years ago when they first came out, so we agreed the deal with collection later that week.

The Dark Side / Re: My new steed.
« on: December 04, 2018, 09:07:22 am »
Steve, due to the need for a bike with lower pillion footrests (my wife couldn't easily manage the Versys following her hip operation) I have also recently bought a BMW. I have had one before of course and enjoyed riding that and, to some extent have found that it is like finding an old friend again, with the (rather quirky in some cases) features, seating position etc. After some 500 miles though I have really settled to it and look forward to next summer. I didn't start out to go the BMW route, however I quickly realised that bikes with low passenger footrests are few in number and choice was really quite limited.

My experience with the dealer mirrors yours, everything ready on time, full tank of fuel on collection and a free service included when I wanted it. In order to have my BMW Navigator fitted (this has been with me on three bikes now) I returned to the dealer two weeks on and asked for the next service to be performed before winter set in and, although I had to change my arrival time at short notice due to poor weather, when I did arrive work was started immediately and the Technician worked into his lunch break to ensure that I was able to leave promptly.

As an added bonus, the labour charge for my GPS installation was lower than when I sold my last BMW, some five years ago.

So far, very impressed!

The Dark Side / Re: Why are people moving to the dark side?
« on: June 09, 2017, 07:19:12 pm »
I came away from big touring bikes (BMW K1200, GTR) because when my daughter bought her own "Big Bike" and didn't want to ride as passenger on holiday trips, I could see no benefit to moving an additional 60 kg that I did not need for my own use everywhere.

This is a decision that I have not regretted and from now on, I intend to make sure that every new bike is lighter than the previous, if at all possible.

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