About a month ago my KIPASS decided not to work, no icon on dash and the key just spun. Just about to get it recovered and it worked, dealer checked it over, no fault found. Rode the bike another 1000 miles over with no problem, stopped at home today for a sarnie en route to a meeting and it died again. Bike recovered to dealer now awaiting diagnosis, not happy!! :'(
Apparently the transponder battery had dropped from 3v to 2.99v and so would not activate the KIPASS. But that is the third battery since June so may need a replacement transponder, hey ho.
Thats what you call precise voltage, :o
Your display should have kept flashing low transponder battery, its done it twice to me now in 2 years, i just changed the battery and it was ok.
After a similar experience with the remote fob of a car some years ago, i now keep a spare battery hidden under the seat. Also in an emergency, you may just give the battery a short boost by warming it for a few minutes in your hands or somewhere else on your body. Always buy quality batteries and not cheap unbranded types.
Quote from: Cartman on October 28, 2011, 02:49:34 PM
About a month ago my KIPASS decided not to work, no icon on dash and the key just spun. Just about to get it recovered and it worked, dealer checked it over, no fault found. Rode the bike another 1000 miles over with no problem, stopped at home today for a sarnie en route to a meeting and it died again. Bike recovered to dealer now awaiting diagnosis, not happy!! :'(
suppose it worth carring the spare immobiliser with you. kawasaki reckoned they did not supply the second remote with the newer model due to its size! the new second immobiliser was small enough to fit in the smallest wallet. more like it was to save money, but must admit you don't know it in your wallet and would get you out of trouble if the orignal is lost or the battery decides to pack in!
Well, even the FOB is supposed to work with a flat battery if you hold it close enough to the ignition switch.
Remove the emergency key from FOB and fit the hollow of the FOB on the projection of the ignition switch, then key knob can be operated after about 2 seconds passed when key knob is pushed.
It sure helps to read the user's manual or RTFM as we say in the IT industry. ::)
No need for the spare key and/or a recovery vehicle just because the battery in the FOB is flat.
I heard from a BMW rider that their key-less ignition also sometimes doesn't work due to interference from CCTV signals at gas stations.
He told me a mate of his was just going to call a recovery truck when somebody suggested to push the bike off the forecourt.
Sure enough the bike started without any problems once back on the road.
Quote from: mecki on November 08, 2011, 11:48:33 AM
Well, even the FOB is supposed to work with a flat battery if you hold it close enough to the ignition switch.
Remove the emergency key from FOB and fit the hollow of the FOB on the projection of the ignition switch, then key knob can be operated after about 2 seconds passed when key knob is pushed.
It sure helps to read the user's manual or RTFM as we say in the IT industry. ::)
No need for the spare key and/or a recovery vehicle just because the battery in the FOB is flat.
I heard from a BMW rider that their key-less ignition also sometimes doesn't work due to interference from CCTV signals at gas stations.
He told me a mate of his was just going to call a recovery truck when somebody suggested to push the bike off the forecourt.
Sure enough the bike started without any problems once back on the road.
Having worked as a service manager for BMW cars for 6 years I am well aquainted with the concept of reading the manual! I well remember a recovered M3 SMG that apparently would not go into gear, well until you press the brake pedal ;)
I would not have called for recovery if a) the transponder battery warning had been displayed
b) the spare or original transponder had worked as they were supposed
c) I had not tried everything laid out in the manual for this situation.
Subsequently there has been a fault found with the KIPASS on the bike which has now, hopefully, been rectified.
I keep the 2nd emergency fob with me plus a new battery all in the top box just in case I have an " Oh shit moment ! " ... worth replacing the battery every year, either the one in the fob or the spare ... I would rather spend just a pound or two and be safe than be stuck somewhere... give it a go ;D
The FOB works even without a battery so you shouldn't get "stuck somewhere" because you don't carry a spare.
And if the KIPASS (or ignition switch) packs in like in Cartman's case even a truckload of batteries won't help.
Oh ... ok then I'll put it back ;D ;D
Quote from: Lord Rusty on November 08, 2011, 06:39:33 PM
I keep the 2nd emergency fob with me plus a new battery all in the top box just in case I have an " Oh shit moment ! " ... worth replacing the battery every year, either the one in the fob or the spare ... I would rather spend just a pound or two and be safe than be stuck somewhere... give it a go ;D
Mr rusty did have you had a second proximity main fob programmed, I done a deal with the dealer. at first I did not like the idea of the secondary card type that was supplied with the new model. but the small secondary card type dose make a lot of sense. it can be carried in your wallet and its small enough you don't even know its there. I did try the small card type to make sure it started the bike, and as far as I know it dose not need a battery! since then its been in my wallet, well you never know!! ;)
No I did not ... I believe to have a 2nd Fob programmed ( ie another big one ) is something ridiculous around the £200 mark or more .. ( 2Kwacks can you tell us ? ) so I carry the small one that you have in your wallet and the spare battery, thinking that if it failed at 5 in the morning I could just change the battery and away I go.
I have to say I shall take on board what Mecki says and read the manual more thoroughly and to be honest I think I may just add my K document sleeve to the top box .. that way I have EVERYTHING with me .. nothing like having the manual in your hand as opposed to trying to remember it on a wet cold morning !! ; ;)
rusty! you are correct they are dam expensive, and I was told by the dealer the normal price was £280.00 including v.a.t and programmed. so its most likely not worth having the second proximity fob, when you can carry the small card type thats free with the bike and its so easy stored in your wallet, it was something I moaned about at the time when ordering the my gtr. if I had to pay that price I would have not botherd. as for the manual, if you mean the owner's manual I allways keep that in my glove box with my tyre valve extension ;) well you never know when you may need both!
Cheers mate .. that's good.