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Title: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: l.u.v on May 27, 2020, 11:06:39 PM
Hi guys,

I didn't find anything on the forum.
Few weeks ago I saw that the battery (3V) from FOB does not last even for a 2 weeks. I have tried all battery brands but all go dead in 10 days maximum. I don't have some moisture or water, I cleaned inside with a spray for electronic parts and isopropyl alcohool, everithing looks clean there and nothing.  I also use CR2032 and CR2025 with no big difference, only 2-3 days.

Any ideea? Do I need to buy a new FOB?
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: pross on May 28, 2020, 09:15:39 AM
It all depends on use but I get a year + out mine I just change it yearly I never wait for the fob low warning.
It sounds like the fob has a problem.
Also in case you aren't aware if you take the key out of the fob and place the hole on the square at the bottom of the bars it should start the bike 👍
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: Rusty on May 28, 2020, 02:58:06 PM
For what its worth it may be a FOB problem ... I don,t know the technical bits ( I don,t know anything technical ! )  but when your dealer is back open get down there and tell them about it ... I got through 3 batteries on my GS FOB ... the display telling me I had a 50% battery loss ... and it turned out to be a "reading" problem ... no trouble they replaced it... which was very BMW  :yes:
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: O.C. on May 28, 2020, 07:03:13 PM
Yep, fob problem.... they are expensive to replace and have to be paired to your bike... don't ask me how I know  :oops:   
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: mcfroyce44 on May 28, 2020, 08:26:11 PM
Last week I got the fob battery low problem so put a new battery in it when I got home. That was only my second run out this year. I remember thinking I'd only put a new battery in it at the end of last year. First run out after that was today and within half an hour I had the fob battery low show up again. I'd bought 2 new batteries during the week to have as spares but made sure I got lithium batteries this time rather than alkaline. 180 miles, no problems.
I use a camera for work and have found that alkaline batteries literally last a few days whereas lithium last months.

Don't be so tight. Buy a quality battery.

And don't store the fob on or near the bike when at home. (eg. in the condom cupboard on the tank). If you do the bike will constantly be reading the fob.
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: Lonewolf on May 28, 2020, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: O.C. on May 28, 2020, 07:03:13 PM
Yep, fob problem.... they are expensive to replace and have to be paired to your bike... don't ask me how I know  :oops:   


Didn't you lose one many years ago around Clapham or Austwick?
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: nobody on May 29, 2020, 02:51:46 AM
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Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: O.C. on May 29, 2020, 07:27:31 AM
Quote from: Lonewolf on May 28, 2020, 10:52:20 PM

Didn't you lose one many years ago around Clapham or Austwick?


Correct, I did Steve, and spent a good hour or so searching the grass verge for it... to no avail.... and a hefty replacement cost 

It was a very bright sunny day and I didn't notice the warning message on the screen till OI got home
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: PRD on May 29, 2020, 07:41:13 AM
A key is so much better. FJR has a key!
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: nobody on May 29, 2020, 08:50:59 AM
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Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: mcfroyce44 on May 29, 2020, 11:48:34 AM
Quote from: Daisy on May 29, 2020, 02:51:46 AM
Despite even Kawasaki's own manual stating it to be fact, the bike does NOT look for the fob until you press the key.
Logically, if it were already looking there would be no need to press the key. And the bike battery would go flat.
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Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: Vixer on May 29, 2020, 09:09:21 PM
Funnily enough, despite the dealer saying he had replaced the fob battery the day before, my bike turned up asking for a new fob battery....

I'll try a lithium battery as mentioned and see how that does.
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: Lonewolf on May 30, 2020, 09:05:03 AM
Quote from: PRD on May 29, 2020, 07:41:13 AM
A key is so much better. FJR has a key!


So does my German thing, the newer ones are keyless and even have reverse gear but I'm happy with a key, simple but effective. ( The key, not me).  :whistling:
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: l.u.v on May 30, 2020, 09:27:06 AM
Thanks to all of you, even the guys with regular key on the bike  :yes:
I keep the FOB in a bag with Keys and another remote from a Mercedes and BMW. (maybe Kawa doesn't like BMW and Mercedes, I will try with Skoda and Opel  :clap:)
But in the same bag I have also the second small key from bike, maybe this is the reason?
I changed the batery with the new one and separate the FOB from the rest.
Thanks!
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: l.u.v on June 11, 2020, 06:39:29 PM
Hi all,

Unfortunately it is the same situation even with a new brand battery - a good one, Renata.
In the future I must to buy a new FOB, around 330 euro.

Thanks to all for your advice!
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: Vixer on June 15, 2020, 04:15:07 PM
Before you go and spend all that money, try tweaking the metal terminals inside the fob. I have been having the same trouble since the bike was delivered a few weeks ago, it's very annoying.

The fob has had two batteries so far but the lfob battery warning keeps coming on.

On Saturday I stripped it down and tweaked all four metal 'tangs' that contact the battery. Been out all day today with a few stops and fingers crossed there's been no warnings.

The horn has stopped working now though...
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: pross on June 16, 2020, 12:50:58 AM
I have had that problem with the horn .
I had swopped my horn so I thought it might be my fault. After taking the horn off and checking  :censored .
I phoned my local dealer at Cradley told him the problem.
He told me road crud builds up in the switch spray WD40 in and keep pressing the horn.
After a few minutes following his instructions it started working again  :clap: .
So try this first It worked for me 👌
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: l.u.v on June 16, 2020, 09:27:45 PM
Quote from: pross on June 16, 2020, 12:50:58 AM
I have had that problem with the horn .

So try this first It worked for me 👌
Sorry but I am talking about FOB battery. I don't understand what is the connexion with the horn? :undecided:
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: Brizzlerob on June 17, 2020, 10:46:21 AM
Sorry but I am talking about FOB battery. I don't understand what is the connexion with the horn? :undecided:

Because after Vixer described a possible remedy for fixing the fob, he then found that his horn wasn't working - Pross then advised him of a similar scenario.
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: Vixer on June 20, 2020, 11:06:49 PM
Haha, sorry for the confusion. No, the horn was nothing to do with the battery in the fob, it was just something that came up on the day to add to the snagging list.

Regarding the fob, I've done a full tank of fuel this afternoon with a few stops and not once seen the transponder battery warning so, for me, I am calling it fixed. Maybe the metal tangs  get tired over time and lose their 100% contact with the battery.

Another plus today, a swift tap with a spanner got the horn working too  :clap:
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: l.u.v on June 23, 2020, 08:07:47 PM
I come back with a happy answer!
I took the FOB to an electronics technician and he repaired it. He said he had a short circuit due to some electronic parts and he changed all these inside.
2o euro instead 350! :clap:
Thank you all for your advice!
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: Vixer on June 23, 2020, 09:37:31 PM
Excellent news.

My fob too still seems to be behaving itself.
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: Burchy on June 24, 2020, 05:00:33 PM
Well done.  Always good to get a decent repair than just binning it and buying a replacement
Title: Re: FOB battery dead in maximum 10 days
Post by: virginiajim on September 13, 2020, 07:08:21 PM
If you are handy, have a soldering iron, and a magnifying glass you might possibly see something out of place on the circuit board such as corrosion causing a short you might save yourself some money.  Even if you don't see anything amiss, you may also want to scrub down the board with isopropyl (sp?) alcohol and see if it helps.  I don't recommend the drinking alcohol as a rub down but afterwards if what I've told you works then have a snort of your favorite or even if it doesn't work.