I'm on my second GTR and have been riding GTR's for about 8 years. I really like them. However I am toying with the idea of a Yamaha FJR 1300. They are now in their last year of production and come with all mod cons esa, cruise control etc. Should I keep the GTR or jump ship and go for a FJR?
Go for it! You can always come back and at least you will now if it suits you better!
By all accounts a lovely bike.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FUDdmKOwI8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FUDdmKOwI8)
Go test ride one Pete. I don't think they are as good as the GTR, but they are a good bike.
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You don't need a new bike you need a f-king boat or even a submarine if it carries on raining any more
Quote from: nightrider on February 29, 2020, 08:07:05 PM
You don't need a new bike you need a f-king boat or even a submarine if it carries on raining any more
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I always liked the look of the FJR in my opinion its a well designed bike, which seems to get good write ups, Yamaha added a 6th gear in 2016 and that has apparently improved the bike even more
I would advise firstly visiting a dedicated forum and then a test ride to see if it floats your boat
Keep us posted Pete :yes:
Quote from: O.C. on March 01, 2020, 05:12:27 AM
I always liked the look of the FJR in my opinion its a well designed bike, which seems to get good write ups, Yamaha added a 6th gear in 2016 and that has apparently improved the bike even more
I would advise firstly visiting a dedicated forum and then a test ride to see if it floats your boat
Keep us posted Pete :yes:
that is the plan. It will have to be good to be better than a GTR. And of course is it worth spending the money for a few up to date features.
We have a number of FJR's on our bloodbike fleet.
Subjectively, I think they feel lighter on the road, but as heavy when wheeling them about.
Dash display is a bit more 'modern' compared to the GTR's twin dials.
The screen IMO is a lot better than the GTR's, one thing I really hated about the GTR was the amount of trial and error to get a half decent 'noiseless' ride.
I took a test ride on an FJR1300 before buying my GTR. IMHO they're a good bike, but it didn't stir the soul at all. Capable, quick and after 5 minutes I felt at home on it. Unfortunately for me, it looked, sounded and went OK. Looks wise, it was black which made it anonymous looking to me.
OK is what you need if you're buying a diesel van to haul stuff but not the feeling I want from my bikes.
You might love it. Whatever you choose, health to enjoy
I've ridden a couple of them. In my humble opinion the GTR is the better bike. The latest incarnation with the 6th gear is an improvement, but the only one I'd consider is the top-of-the-range one with electronic suspension and halh decent brakes.
But not at £18000
Quote from: Burchy on March 02, 2020, 03:47:41 PM
I've ridden a couple of them. In my humble opinion the GTR is the better bike. The latest incarnation with the 6th gear is an improvement, but the only one I'd consider is the top-of-the-range one with electronic suspension and halh decent brakes.
But not at £18000
Exactly, is it just me or are bike manufacturers increasing their prices beyond belief.
No it's not just you and it seems to be almost 'epidemic' proportions.....
I think PCP has had an effect on RRP as this method of purchase tends to make everything look affordable
PCP is the culprit.
Quote from: PRD on March 03, 2020, 10:00:14 AM
PCP is the culprit.
PCP, has its place and it does suit a lot of people. I looked into it early last year when I went through a phase of buying two GSA's. I found it too restrictive.
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I agree. They sell it as the way forward, very clever marketing. What they don't highlight is the massive payment to end the contract, whatever you are buying. Then they will try and stick you for damage to the vehicle, never really explained properly at the contract start.
PCP is OK if you aren't too fussed about actually owning your bike (unless you make the final payment)
I've thought about it in the past, but I guess I'm a bit olde school and have therefore always purchased my bikes
I see PCP as being no more than permanent rental and, unlike when it was first launched, there is now unlikely to be any "equity" at the end of the hire period to fund a deposit toward the replacement motorcycle or car. It also has the effect of allowing prices to rise to an artificially high level, due to the difference in monthly payments being quite small.
One area where it does seem to have been useful is in allowing manufacturers to float out the models that would otherwise probably not have sold in the required volumes (remember the Renault Val Satis and Citroen C6) and turn them into used vehicles where there was a market, albeit limited for them.
Perhaps most of all it satisfies the need for "instant gratification" that some, especially those of younger years, have become accustomed to? Inevitably the greatest problem with it all lies in the future when having never owned their house, vehicles or other high - cost items, these same people face retirement in very difficult circumstances.
PCP often works well for the trade (although not always, because as many dealers say, the one to three - year used vehicle market has all but disappeared) and I am sure that it has a place in the world, but probably only for those who are wary of the pitfalls and can afford the real cost of it.
Like many other things, PCP is a good product if sold correctly and is suitable for the customer. PPI was exactly the same, a good product for those it suited. What you cant cater for is the commission hungry sales people who will sell anything to anyone if it makes them money. Also the public rarely reads the small print in any contract, they just want to pay their money and sign the agreement without fully understanding what they are getting into or committing to. All issues are clearly covered in the PCP contract material, its just that he customer is often too lazy or stupid to read it. Saying that our local BMW dealer didn't half stitch up my mate with a PCP deal and told him that should he die, the contract dies with him and they just take the bike back without further charge. Well he died 2 years into the deal leaving a right mess for his son and I to sort out. I must add I have moved house recently and the dealer is nowhere near where I live now.