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1400 GTR - All Models => 1400GTR Discussion => Topic started by: Brizzlerob on November 08, 2019, 04:40:12 PM

Title: ABS pump for 2009
Post by: Brizzlerob on November 08, 2019, 04:40:12 PM
Can anyone advise where I might be able to get a second hand ABS pump? I was out for a ride Sunday and ended up causing a lot of damage when the rear brake seized on. My mechanic has nailed it down to the pump (he has connected direct from the master to the caliper and the brakes work ok but still lock when going through the ABS pump). A new pump when in stock is £1300  :no: :no: so as you can imagine I am looking for a second hand pump.
Title: Re: ABS pump for 2009
Post by: Brizzlerob on November 08, 2019, 07:07:31 PM
I think that I have just ordered the only pump available 2nd hand in the known universe
Title: Re: ABS pump for 2009
Post by: Nitty Gritty on November 08, 2019, 07:56:07 PM
How much?
Title: Re: ABS pump for 2009
Post by: Brizzlerob on November 08, 2019, 08:02:48 PM
414 Euro / £373 (inc postage from Germany)
Title: Re: ABS pump for 2009
Post by: Nitty Gritty on November 08, 2019, 10:16:32 PM
good saving, let us know if it solves the problem
Title: Re: ABS pump for 2009
Post by: coman37 on November 09, 2019, 10:58:26 AM
I got mine off eBay, cost £175 in 2017
try breakers,
check if ZZR pump is the same spec as there are more of them at breakers

Coman

Title: Re: ABS pump for 2009
Post by: coman37 on November 09, 2019, 11:08:44 AM
323899119360
Zzr1400 pump on eBay

Coman
Title: Re: ABS pump for 2009
Post by: Burchy on November 09, 2019, 11:15:43 AM
Yup, couple on eBay from The States
part number you need is 16082-0041
the ZZR pump looks similar, but a different number (16082-0031)
Title: Re: ABS pump for 2009
Post by: shaggs147 on November 09, 2019, 07:19:47 PM
That failure sounds a little worrying. Did it just lock on as you were riding?

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Title: Re: ABS pump for 2009
Post by: Robbieben on November 11, 2019, 10:34:50 AM
ABS Pump failures are very common these days on bikes and cars and are usually caused by not changing the brake fluid Bi-annually. Brake fluid attracts water and this water finds its way to the ABS pump causing expensive failure of the pump unit.
I personally replace brake fluid annually to prevent these issues and for little cost it's worth doing.
Title: Re: ABS pump for 2009
Post by: Freddy on November 11, 2019, 12:16:51 PM
It's been an irregular occurrence on the earlier (series 1) bikes over the last 5-6 years. It happened to mine.  Kaw gave me a new one as they wanted the faulty one to investigate.  The cause has been put down to not changing the fluid every 2 years as per service schedule.  The ZZR1400/ZX14 unit will do the same job.  It is calibrated just very slightly differently due to the slightly lighter weight - hence the different p/number, but only those prior to 2012 without Traction Control.

Due to the low number of failures worldwide, Kaw said they will do nothing about it.
Title: Re: ABS pump for 2009
Post by: Brizzlerob on November 11, 2019, 03:14:09 PM
Quote from: shaggs147 on November 09, 2019, 07:19:47 PM
That failure sounds a little worrying. Did it just lock on as you were riding?

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Whilst out for a ride the bike felt a bit sluggish; I thought that it was maybe a bit of an air blockage. Due to the back brake being rather poor, the engine was able to over come the limited braking ability of the back brake. At the point of failure of the brake I thought that the "air blockage" had cleared and all was ok until I depressed the rear brake pedal and found all resistance had gone. I was able to proceed using the front brake.
Title: Re: ABS pump for 2009
Post by: Brizzlerob on November 11, 2019, 03:16:44 PM
Quote from: Burchy on November 09, 2019, 11:15:43 AM
Yup, couple on eBay from The States
part number you need is 16082-0041
the ZZR pump looks similar, but a different number (16082-0031)

I believe the 16082-0041 is for the Gen 2. I have ordered the 16082-0023 for the Gen 1. Interesting to note that the ZZR pump might do the job. As I have already ordered the part from Germany I will see how that goes and report back later.
Title: Re: ABS pump for 2009
Post by: Brizzlerob on November 11, 2019, 03:21:16 PM
Quote from: Robbieben on November 11, 2019, 10:34:50 AM
ABS Pump failures are very common these days on bikes and cars and are usually caused by not changing the brake fluid Bi-annually. Brake fluid attracts water and this water finds its way to the ABS pump causing expensive failure of the pump unit.
I personally replace brake fluid annually to prevent these issues and for little cost it's worth doing.

Helpful advice - I will be changing my brake fluids more regularly from now on
Title: Re: ABS pump for 2009
Post by: virginiajim on November 18, 2019, 04:26:11 PM
Not only should you change the brake fluid every 2 years, you should also actuate the ABS on both front and rear every so often.