Kawasaki 1400 GTR

1400 GTR - All Models => 1400GTR Discussion => Topic started by: badaboum on December 12, 2017, 11:31:53 AM

Title: Smoke at startup
Post by: badaboum on December 12, 2017, 11:31:53 AM
Guys

I have this famous white smoke at ignition kicking my ass for the last 3 years

I have reached the 48kkm and I would like to take advantage of the service that I am doing to change the seal that is an issue

Can you confirm it is the ring that goes on the crankshaft senso part number 92055-1639 that is the issue?

I am going to order it

Thanks
Title: Re: Smoke at startup
Post by: Freddy on December 12, 2017, 11:57:33 AM
Yes that's the part number but it's on the exh cam sensor.  The problem is that the OEM part is not quite thick enough to do the job so replacing it with an OEM one will also leak in short order.  I use a slightly thicker one I get from a bearing supplier assortment.  It is firmer to push the sensor back in and therefore seals.
Title: Re: Smoke at startup
Post by: badaboum on December 12, 2017, 12:33:31 PM
Any idea where I can find your version of the ring online? :-)

merci
Title: Re: Smoke at startup
Post by: Freddy on December 12, 2017, 01:02:31 PM
Not easily.  I use one out of a small O ring assortment from an auto store.  I can't remember if the Metric set or the Imperial set has a better fit O ring.  They are only a few dollars so get both.  From memory it is either 16x3mm or 5/8"x1/8" imperial.  I think the OEM ring is 16x2.5mm.  It's been a year since I have replaced one, sorry.


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Champion-O-Ring-Pack-5-25-Assorted/252388588690?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D149c03b9a0f94704a4f926e8f6584712%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D252388588690&_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042
Title: Re: Smoke at startup
Post by: doebag on December 12, 2017, 02:28:22 PM
Just done this on mine, can't help with the size as I used one in my o-ring collection.
However it was slightly bigger and you do need to push a bit harder to seat the sensor.
I used a very thin smear of Blue Hylomar non setting, to lubricate the seal before I fitted the sensor back.
Title: Re: Smoke at startup
Post by: badaboum on December 12, 2017, 03:04:08 PM
The ring seems to be 20mm large OD on mine (i have just removed it)

See attached(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171212/d58bcd99e4ff9cd6251445dd6e6c0571.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171212/2fc9b6f6c15a575decff1caa5ca95dc9.jpg)

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Title: Re: Smoke at startup
Post by: Freddy on December 12, 2017, 09:48:15 PM
Technically, O rings are measured by the inside diameter (ID) and cross-section width.
Title: Re: Smoke at startup
Post by: badaboum on December 13, 2017, 08:52:02 AM
Yes i know
This one is defenetly not a 16 by 3mm

Ill see if i can make a better measurement

Thanks

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Title: Re: Smoke at startup
Post by: snowy on December 13, 2017, 10:11:07 AM
Thought mine was going the same way, till a highly respected independent spanner man said to check the rocker gasket first, and fair play, he was right!
Intermittent smoking on start after a few days park-up. Slight weep would occasionally collect a pool near exhaust headers, burn off was impressive!
Title: Re: Smoke at startup
Post by: badaboum on December 13, 2017, 10:33:16 AM
Hello

My english is not as good as I thougth. What is the Rocker gasket? Is is the gasket between the cylinder head cover and the cylinder head?

Thanks
Title: Re: Smoke at startup
Post by: snowy on December 13, 2017, 11:05:03 AM
Yep, that's the one!
Full of valve gear and lots of oil!
Title: Re: Smoke at startup
Post by: Freddy on December 13, 2017, 11:56:27 PM
If the rocker cover gasket is leaking I rectify it by adding a 13mm fibre washer under the head of each bolt, one at a time.  They're about 0.5mm thick and add enough crush on the gasket to seal it.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Champion-Fibre-Washers-1-2x7-8-Handy-Pack/191964070237?epid=1229850699&hash=item2cb1f3415d:g:OjIAAOSwol5Y0APg
Title: Re: Smoke at startup
Post by: big mike on December 14, 2017, 11:20:11 PM
I had my one ( a 2008 model) delivered last week and started it up yesterday for first time and it was quiet a lot of white smoke , sounds a similar thing.
More worryingly it's been bought from a Kawasaki dealer and just been serviced, time for a call I think.