After /6 years of ownership I have sorted my screen woes. I drilled 3 holes about an inch diameter along the lower half of the standard screen fitted with a laminar lip. After a week and /1100 miles in Scotland last week, I have no more wind noise or turbulence around my head. The wife is also happy on the back. Only downside is a slight whistling though the holes when doing silly speeds.
Can you post a pic or two of the mod, please?
interesting modification Chris, pictures would be good
I guess it's a similar principle to the vented screen on later model bikes
Laminar Lip is good BTW :yes:
:agree: a couple of piccies would go down well...maybe the answer to all the problems with wind noise.
(http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p588/ChrisB1955/20170625_103313.jpg) (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/ChrisB1955/media/20170625_103313.jpg.html)
(http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p588/ChrisB1955/20170625_103344.jpg) (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/ChrisB1955/media/20170625_103344.jpg.html)
At last. Took me ages to do but finally managed to put pictures via bucket.
:clap: :clap:
Silly question. How did you know it was going to work?
Quote from: Kylinski on June 26, 2017, 02:45:33 PM
Silly question. How did you know it was going to work?
I didn't know for sure but my first issue was the useless screen fitted by Kawasaki, to which I fitted the laminar lip. This helped with wind noise but caused turbulence around mine and my wife's heads. So after many discussions in the pub we came to the conclusion that letting in more air under the screen should reduce the turbulence as demonstrated by Kawasaki on later models with the vent on the screen. So with drill in hand and a roll of masking tape to aid measuring, marking and prevention of slipping I went and drilled the holes as shown. Before the drilling we covered 1000 miles in Ireland in May and after the drilling an 1100 mile round trip to Scotland. So before and after comparisons have proved it works but there is a bit of a whistle coming through the holes at 60 mph or more. I will try and make the holes bigger or maybe just smooth the rough edges first to try and eliminate this.
I had nothing to lose as the standard screen didn't work and the Powerbronze screen I bought is not much better. I have tried 5 different helmets and I have not grown or shrunk much over the 7 years of owning the bike so I tried this.
This is the great thing about this forum. We can share knowledge and experiences.
i have a powerbronze tinted screen on mine, it could do with being 3'' to 4'' taller.
Quote from: ChrisB on June 26, 2017, 03:45:54 PM
I didn't know for sure but my first issue was the useless screen fitted by Kawasaki, to which I fitted the laminar lip. This helped with wind noise but caused turbulence around mine and my wife's heads. So after many discussions in the pub we came to the conclusion that letting in more air under the screen should reduce the turbulence as demonstrated by Kawasaki on later models with the vent on the screen. So with drill in hand and a roll of masking tape to aid measuring, marking and prevention of slipping I went and drilled the holes as shown. Before the drilling we covered 1000 miles in Ireland in May and after the drilling an 1100 mile round trip to Scotland. So before and after comparisons have proved it works but there is a bit of a whistle coming through the holes at 60 mph or more. I will try and make the holes bigger or maybe just smooth the rough edges first to try and eliminate this.
I had nothing to lose as the standard screen didn't work and the Powerbronze screen I bought is not much better. I have tried 5 different helmets and I have not grown or shrunk much over the 7 years of owning the bike so I tried this.
This is the great thing about this forum. We can share knowledge and experiences.
:agree: It was a bold move, but as you say Chris you had nowt to lose really, maybe bevelling the edges of the holes will reduce the whistling noise ?
There does seem to be a few of us who are not happy with the standard screen, myself included. I was hoping that buying the Vstream would be the answer for me, it's better the the standard one but still not tall enough for us.
I bought a s/h Puig visor off the Bay......but when I offered it up to the Vstream before fixing, even the wife said it looked crap. I must admit it was the small one that Puig do. I'm now thinking do we put up with what we have??? or do I go for a MRA flip like this one before we go to France next week??.... https://www.bikehps.com/acatalog/MRA_X-creen_Motorcycle_Screen_Flip_Spoiler_Air_Deflector.html
I now some of you guys have MRA screens....as anyone used one of their flips???
Quote from: Icefever on June 27, 2017, 08:52:09 AM
There does seem to be a few of us who are not happy with the standard screen, myself included. I was hoping that buying the Vstream would be the answer for me, it's better the the standard one but still not tall enough for us.
I bought a s/h Puig visor off the Bay......but when I offered it up to the Vstream before fixing, even the wife said it looked crap. I must admit it was the small one that Puig do. I'm now thinking do we put up with what we have??? or do I go for a MRA flip like this one before we go to France next week??.... https://www.bikehps.com/acatalog/MRA_X-creen_Motorcycle_Screen_Flip_Spoiler_Air_Deflector.html
I now some of you guys have MRA screens....as anyone used one of their flips???
Only an extra £35 over what you're looking at and you can get the complete screen with cats eyes in plus the adjustable lip.
I have one and find it excellent
https://www.bikehps.com/acatalog/Kawasaki_GTR1400_2007_Onwards_MRA_Adjustable_Motorcycle_Touring_Screens.html#aCOL52123
NB they also do a bigger one
I've just been on their site looking at their Maxi screen Mikey and I'm thinking the same as you.. :wink: I know the screen with the flip is only the same overall height as the Vstream I have on, but with the cats eyes making for better airflow and less wind noise it could be a good opition. All I have to do now is convince the better half and get one before next Thur.
Quote from: Icefever on June 27, 2017, 09:51:58 AM
I've just been on their site looking at their Maxi screen Mikey and I'm thinking the same as you.. :wink: I know the screen with the flip is only the same overall height as the Vstream I have on, but with the cats eyes making for better airflow and less wind noise it could be a good opition. All I have to do now is convince the better half and get one before next Thur.
Pity you're not a bit closer to Bolton as you could try before you buy.
Fair/warm weather I tend to ride with the screen fully down and the adjustable section just about halfway up
Wet/colder weather I leave the flip in the same position but just riase the screen
FyI I'm about 5/10/5'11" with a 32" inside leg
I'm 6' 2" so with the flip up fully and the screen up it may be better than the one I have?? not forgetting the cut outs as well.
Quote from: mikeyw64 on June 27, 2017, 10:02:12 AM
Pity you're not a bit closer to Bolton as you could try before you buy.
Fair/warm weather I tend to ride with the screen fully down and the adjustable section just about halfway up
Wet/colder weather I leave the flip in the same position but just riase the screen
FyI I'm about 5/10/5'11" with a 32" inside leg
How effective do you find the cut out's compared top a full screen without?
Quote from: GTRpilot on June 27, 2017, 05:05:00 PM
How effective do you find the cut out's compared top a full screen without?
Never had the GTR without the cats eyes in, screen was on the bike when I bought her.
Quote from: Icefever on June 27, 2017, 10:46:54 AM
I'm 6' 2" so with the flip up fully and the screen up it may be better than the one I have?? not forgetting the cut outs as well.
I'm 6'4" and had a Puig touring screen. Whilst better than the original, it wasn't perfect.
I recently acquired (thanks Charlie! :smiley:) an MRA screen with adjustable lip. *Infinitely* better than the Puig! Plus - and I will be testing this theory in August - with the adjustable lip down, and the screen down, it is more like the height of the original: maximum airblast cooling in hot climates.
Cheers
Paul B.
The new MRA screen arrived today, I'm off work tomorrow so will swap it for the Vstream and try to take a test ride to see if it's any better.....fingers crossed.
Quote from: Icefever on June 28, 2017, 07:22:18 PM
The new MRA screen arrived today, I'm off work tomorrow so will swap it for the Vstream and try to take a test ride to see if it's any better.....fingers crossed.
Let us know how it goes, be interested 😊
Quote from: GTRpilot on June 28, 2017, 10:48:06 PM
Let us know how it goes, be interested 😊
Just taken a look at the "bits & bobs" that are in the box...smegging hell :rolleyes:, I may not have time today as I'm off work because of a hospital appointment....will post asap.
Quote from: Icefever on June 29, 2017, 07:37:51 AM
Just taken a look at the "bits & bobs" that are in the box...smegging hell :rolleyes:, I may not have time today as I'm off work because of a hospital appointment....will post asap.
Should have assembled it last night ready for fitting to the bike this morning lol
Quote from: mikeyw64 on June 29, 2017, 07:57:42 AM
Should have assembled it last night ready for fitting to the bike this morning lol
How right you are... :yes:.....just got back from town where I was expecting to have 2 keys cut for the bike. I had to order the blanks, they have arrived but the guy couldn't find them.... :hammer:.
Now I'm home I'm just about to start putting it together...thought I'd take a photo of the bits just for the guys to see what does come with the screen..
(http://i68.tinypic.com/684ig0.jpg)
Here goes...
Well that took about 45 mins....had me scratching the old noggin for a min or two.. :rolleyes:.......but now all ready to bang it on.
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2ivlfgi.jpg)
Just read the MRA screen spec's, it's say's it's 505mm with the flip fully raised, isn't that smaller than the original kawasaki screen? :whistling:
Quote from: GTRpilot on June 29, 2017, 11:54:36 AM
Just read the MRA screen spec's, it's say's it's 505mm with the flip fully raised, isn't that smaller than the original kawasaki screen? :whistling:
Biggers not always better ;)
(although they do do a taller one as well)
The 'original' (2009) screen was smaller and at that time KHI offered a larger screen through the Kawasaki Accessory programme
Later model (I think 2010 onwards) model year had an improved/larger screen as standard, which was the same dimensions as the previous Accessory screen, but I can't remember what those dimensions are/were
I'm sure someone will be along with a tape measure any time now :mfr_lol:
Quote from: mikeyw64 on June 29, 2017, 12:22:21 PM
Biggers not always better ;)
(although they do do a taller one as well)
That's what they say... :mfr_lol: and this one is the taller one....."Length/height with spoiler raised 610mm"
Off their web site....
Spoiler Dimensions
Width of spoiler/aerofoil: 360 mm (14.2 inches)
Overall height of spoiler/aerofoil: 155 mm (6.1 inches)
Height in centre of spoiler/aerofoil: 128 mm (5.0 inches)
According to my ruler that 610mm is the same as the Vstream I have at the moment....but then there's the "cats eyes" to help, also the adjustable visor to alter air flow....so I have to wait and see.
why wait ? get out and :biker3:
Quote from: Icefever on June 29, 2017, 01:24:54 PM
That's what they say... :mfr_lol: and this one is the taller one....."Length/height with spoiler raised 610mm"
Off their web site....
Spoiler Dimensions
Width of spoiler/aerofoil: 360 mm (14.2 inches)
Overall height of spoiler/aerofoil: 155 mm (6.1 inches)
Height in centre of spoiler/aerofoil: 128 mm (5.0 inches)
According to my ruler that 610mm is the same as the Vstream I have at the moment....but then there's the "cats eyes" to help, also the adjustable visor to alter air flow....so I have to wait and see.
Ah, you got the taller one 👍got a V stream on mine at the moment, be good to see what you think 😊
Quote from: GTRpilot on June 29, 2017, 11:54:36 AM
Just read the MRA screen spec's, it's say's it's 505mm with the flip fully raised, isn't that smaller than the original kawasaki screen? :whistling:
Just measured mine (easy!!) and I have the smaller one, but Im happy with that :)
Suspense :popcorn:
Quote from: mikeyw64 on June 29, 2017, 08:19:56 PM
Just measured mine (easy!!) and I have the smaller one, but Im happy with that :)
But is the Mrs happy :D
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
OK...I fitted the MRA screen and had a run out the village....not impressed, so returned home and refitted the Vstream and took another run so that I could compare them side by side.
The Vstream won....hands down for me, so that's the one for us, I think my height (6'2") doesn't help when I want to get out of the air flow. My better half suggested taking the visor off the MRA and fixing to the VStream...which is not a bad idea, but the curve of the two screens are different so I don't think it would flex enough to stay on.
Anyone looking for a MRA touring screen??? :mfr_lol:
what would be handy is a stock of "loaner" screens of varying types that could be lent out before you commit
We have something like that on our site.
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=914.0
However, maybe you guys could have a get together and swap screens. I've thought about something similar over in the US but it hasn't got past the thinking stage. Nothing happens.
The issue with screens is that it's so subjective to the rider size, saddle height, bar height, etc... It's so darn difficult to find the one that's just right. I've settled on the CB Ultra Tour Dome, but I have the stock 08 screen back on now as I'm working on selling the bike. The stocker looks like a toy compared to that.
Also, larger screens may eventually affect the screen mechanism, although mine is still fine.
Quote from: Icefever on July 01, 2017, 11:21:35 AM
OK...I fitted the MRA screen and had a run out the village....not impressed, so returned home and refitted the Vstream and took another run so that I could compare them side by side.
The Vstream won....hands down for me, so that's the one for us, I think my height (6'2") doesn't help when I want to get out of the air flow. My better half suggested taking the visor off the MRA and fixing to the VStream...which is not a bad idea, but the curve of the two screens are different so I don't think it would flex enough to stay on.
Anyone looking for a MRA touring screen??? :mfr_lol:
Thank's, sticking with my V stream also :yes:
Had similar problems with the MRA screen, so I took a later, taller standard screen and fitted the MRA vario bit to that by drilling a couple of holes near the top. Just returned from 1500 mioles in France. No turbulance up to 70 mph. I'm thinking that a small slot near the bottom will improve it further
Hi guys,
I am 6' 3" have the GTR 1400 with a tall screen fitted not the Kawasaki one but generic and had buffeting / turbulance issues from the screen just at top of helmet, saw this one on eBay - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Laminar-Lip-for-Kawasaki-GTR1400-GTR-1400-2010-on-screen-/322172957996?epid=1768803518&hash=item4b0301352c:m:mDOoipLwXlq8PO_HbV245lQ - some time back now, the guy said he couldn't be sure would fit or work so I went over to see him and after looking at one or two others decided that this was a good fit.
Once fitted tested it and have now had on for possibly 3 years and it is brilliant, no wind noise or buffeting, can ride with visor up even at more than motorway speed, even 90 mph plus no problem other than when rains as no wind to blow off the droplets so have to wipe or stick my head out to side.
Tried the MRA vario on ZZR 1100 was absolutely crap no improvement.
So here is food for thought. A friend of mine had similar issues with the screen on his Honda. Being an engineer by trade he thought and thought and came up with the idea of holes to increase airflow under the screen to reduce buffeting. He described it like an airplane wing idea. He put 2 quarter inch thick rubber tap washers under the 2 lower fixing screws in order to lift the bottom edge and increase airflow. It worked on his Honda so sometime next week I will try it on the GTR. Just for fun if nothing else and no cost.
Quote from: ChrisB on July 04, 2017, 03:53:10 PM
So here is food for thought. A friend of mine had similar issues with the screen on his Honda. Being an engineer by trade he thought and thought and came up with the idea of holes to increase airflow under the screen to reduce buffeting. He described it like an airplane wing idea. He put 2 quarter inch thick rubber tap washers under the 2 lower fixing screws in order to lift the bottom edge and increase airflow. It worked on his Honda so sometime next week I will try it on the GTR. Just for fun if nothing else and no cost.
Sound's interesting :yes:
Quote from: ChrisB on July 04, 2017, 03:53:10 PM
So here is food for thought. A friend of mine had similar issues with the screen on his Honda. Being an engineer by trade he thought and thought and came up with the idea of holes to increase airflow under the screen to reduce buffeting. He described it like an airplane wing idea. He put 2 quarter inch thick rubber tap washers under the 2 lower fixing screws in order to lift the bottom edge and increase airflow. It worked on his Honda so sometime next week I will try it on the GTR. Just for fun if nothing else and no cost.
I did the same about a year ago but made 4 x15mm spacers to move the intire screen forward works well on non standard tall screen and as I'm only 5'8 ,fully up I sit in still air I also made some 50mm taller blades for the hand deflectors no cold or wet hands anymore ☺
Quote from: ChrisB on July 04, 2017, 03:53:10 PM
So here is food for thought. A friend of mine had similar issues with the screen on his Honda. Being an engineer by trade he thought and thought and came up with the idea of holes to increase airflow under the screen to reduce buffeting. He described it like an airplane wing idea. He put 2 quarter inch thick rubber tap washers under the 2 lower fixing screws in order to lift the bottom edge and increase airflow. It worked on his Honda so sometime next week I will try it on the GTR. Just for fun if nothing else and no cost.
I may try this tomorrow...just to see if it works....we're off on Friday, It's got to the point where I'll give anything a "try" once.
Does this work?
It seems to for some of us....it's all down to the pressure on both sides of the screen. I never got to try before we set off for our two weeks....and I must admit I'm not sure if I want to drill holes in the Vstream...just in case.
I think the only way I'll be happy is to fix a visor or strip across the top of my screen???.
Quote from: Icefever on July 09, 2017, 06:29:05 AM
I think the only way I'll be happy is to fix a visor or strip across the top of my screen???.
If we do meet up when you get back you can try mine, standard screen with Laminar Lip fitted, appreciate it's a different screen on the Mk 1 but you'll get the feel!
Quote from: Alfor on July 08, 2017, 07:30:15 AM
Does this work?
Drilling holes worked for us, but as said before I had nothing to lose and a spare screen should it all go wrong. Not got round to trying the rubber washers yet but I will.
Careful when drilling acrylics or plastic as the plastic may overheat and become discoloured.
Quote from: Icefever on July 09, 2017, 06:29:05 AM
It seems to for some of us....it's all down to the pressure on both sides of the screen. I never got to try before we set off for our two weeks....and I must admit I'm not sure if I want to drill holes in the Vstream...just in case.
Thanks - will give it a bash on next weeks trip
Looking forward to that mate.....will do.
Packed screen out 2mm and cleaned / polished it and it reduced head noise - well pleased :scooter:
I tried the GTR 1400 -MRA X-Creen-Touring "XCTM" 2007-2014,better than the original screen,but still to low for my 6'2' height.Tried the original with a laminar lip,noisier and more buffecting than the MRA screen.
Fitted a Projekt D screen which is taller the original and the MRA GTR 1400 - X-Creen-Touring,Drilled and fitted the MRA screen spoiler,perfect.
Don't even need to put the screen right up to achieved the perfect balance between noise,wind protection and air flow to the the top of the shoei neo top air intake.Minimal wind noise.
Outstanding protection with the screen right up in wet conditions.