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Title: Smoking on start up?
Post by: Joe on February 07, 2017, 12:05:33 PM
Hello,

I've got a 2010 GTR, 20k miles doing a 65 mile round trip daily commute, oils and filters changed about every 4k miles.

I know it's a cold time of year but I'm fairly certain I'm seeing smoke out of the exhaust on start up which would indicate valve seal problems. Is this common on the GTR?

Cheers
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: Charlie farley on February 07, 2017, 01:02:08 PM
Smoke or water vapour?
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: virginiajim on February 07, 2017, 02:08:33 PM
Smoke is not a common occurrence.
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: PRD on February 07, 2017, 02:42:55 PM
Is it smoke or water vapour. They will steam this time of year as moisture
In exhaust meets cold air.
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: Joe on February 07, 2017, 03:19:36 PM
I'm fairly sure there's a (very faint) tinge of blue smoke in with the vapour but that's the trouble with this time of year, it's difficult to tell.

When I start the bike there's nothing coming out of the exhaust, after about 30 secs to 1 min it starts.
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: PaulB on February 07, 2017, 03:57:21 PM
It's a fair certainty that it's just water vapour.

Worn engines smoke worse when they're cold, so it'd be immediate smoking, then taper off as things warm up (and tolerances close).

Exhaust gas contains water vapour that's probably condensing immediately in the exhaust somewhere (probably collector box) but then starts to be "boiled off" as the exhaust system quickly heats up.

Is it using any oil? I suspect not.

Cheers

Paul B.
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: Wookie on February 07, 2017, 09:06:16 PM
If it is using oil then suspect either a valve oil seal or paggered rings .
However .. when the engine is up to normal temp leave it ticking over for about 10 mins the give the throttle a GOOD blip some were north of 6k RPM ... if you see blue smoke then it's deffo one of the above .

If no blue smoke and no significant  oil usage .. all should be well .
Beside the mileage that the bikes covered it is just getting run in 😊
Hope this is helpful
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: virginiajim on February 08, 2017, 01:32:34 AM
What have you done with Wook?  He doesn't talk like that!
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: Wookie on February 08, 2017, 08:49:01 AM
Oh yes he does Jim
Apparently though haveing a bit of fun .. some folk find it offensive .
So back to boring it is
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: GTRpilot on February 08, 2017, 09:53:04 AM
I prefer fun  :banana:
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: virginiajim on February 08, 2017, 10:27:09 AM
I'm with GTRpilot  :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: Wookie on February 08, 2017, 11:09:03 AM
Me 3  :agree:
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: O.C. on February 08, 2017, 01:17:36 PM
Quote from: Wookie on February 08, 2017, 11:09:03 AM
Me 3  :agree:


:stupid:   
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: moayling on February 08, 2017, 02:02:37 PM
Bring back the fun


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Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: virginiajim on February 08, 2017, 02:21:38 PM
Either that or send in the clowns.
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: pross on February 08, 2017, 04:13:38 PM
Quote from: O.C. on February 08, 2017, 01:17:36 PM

:stupid:   

Bring back the fun  :clap: but I must admit I probably gave up reading some  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: Wookie on February 08, 2017, 08:52:43 PM
Quote from: pross on February 08, 2017, 04:13:38 PM
Bring back the fun  :clap: but I must admit I probably gave up reading some  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
WoOk will give it a go and moderate the accent .
Coz wu divvent want Marras gettin the misery skites   :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: pross on February 08, 2017, 08:58:52 PM
👏 lovely bony lad  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: Wookie on February 08, 2017, 09:04:07 PM
Ayeup Pross are you have in a pass at wor Wook ?
Coz ah divvent bat that way  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: pross on February 09, 2017, 09:55:05 AM
Quote from: Wookie on February 08, 2017, 09:04:07 PM
Ayeup Pross are you have in a pass at wor Wook ?
Coz ah divvent bat that way  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:

:shit:  :no:  I remember it from when the boat comes in jack used to say it  :mfr_lol:
I only bat as god intended  :yes:
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: Wookie on February 09, 2017, 11:39:49 AM
PHEW  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Smoking on start up?
Post by: PRD on February 09, 2017, 12:12:51 PM
I prefer the queens English to this ghastly northern dialect.