Kawasaki 1400 GTR

1400 GTR - All Models => 1400GTR Discussion => Topic started by: Macskwak on February 02, 2017, 11:50:35 AM

Title: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: Macskwak on February 02, 2017, 11:50:35 AM
 :help: cant believe the bloody things leaking AGAIN 😡😩 new seal cleaned hole and even put on high temp sealant for good measure. Its an awful design flaw. Anyone got any sure ideas. Im thinking of an oversized seal next time. Ruddy infuriating 😡😡
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: PRD on February 02, 2017, 12:14:45 PM
They appear to be a weak point. Get a dealer to do it and if it goes wrong not your prob.
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: Macskwak on February 02, 2017, 01:16:38 PM
Well hell charge an arm n leg n put in same seal as before so pointless really but see your logic thanks prd. No ill up the seal size this time n make sure i think n after that ill bloody well leave it whatever the outcome. It only smokes once in a while.
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: Wookie on February 02, 2017, 05:00:01 PM
Mack please don't think wook has lost the plot (well anymore than usual  :banana: )but clear bathroom silicon does a cracking job it can be used to seal joints between slip on cans as well .
Used it a few times over the years to foil oil leaks and chuffing zorst  :smiley:
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: virginiajim on February 02, 2017, 06:37:24 PM
That's actually not a bad idea except that clear won't work at all.  Not compatible with the seal.  The seal is black.  You must use black sealant to have it seal correctly.  Change the seal out and then apply something like RTV sealant.....black of course.   Additionally the RTV type of sealant is compatible with automotive uses and temps.
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: mikeyw64 on February 02, 2017, 08:33:42 PM
Quote from: virginiajim on February 02, 2017, 06:37:24 PM
That's actually not a bad idea except that clear won't work at all.  Not compatible with the seal.  The seal is black.  You must use black sealant to have it seal correctly.  Change the seal out and then apply something like RTV sealant.....black of course.   Additionally the RTV type of sealant is compatible with automotive uses and temps.

like this?

(http://img.xcitefun.net/users/2010/03/156633,xcitefun-black-seals.jpg)
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: virginiajim on February 02, 2017, 09:32:30 PM
Perfect!  :banana: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: Wookie on February 02, 2017, 09:59:34 PM
Jim you are a font of superior knowledge ..wook didn't know about the difference between clear silicon and black .
Mack that seal reminds me of a drunken one night stand in me late teenager life  :mfr_lol:
Woke up and you know that moment when you go ...
OMG ad didn't did ah ? then pray ya mates didn't see ya going off with a heffer  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: Macskwak on February 03, 2017, 07:23:45 AM
Quote from: virginiajim on February 02, 2017, 06:37:24 PM
That's actually not a bad idea except that clear won't work at all.  Not compatible with the seal.  The seal is black.  You must use black sealant to have it seal correctly.  Change the seal out and then apply something like RTV sealant.....black of course.   Additionally the RTV type of sealant is compatible with automotive uses and temps.

Sadly jim that was rtv i used n black too. Its soooo annoying but i think ill oversize anyway then heavily coat rear of sensor so it sills out leaving excess t wipe off this time. Hate doin jobs twice or more.
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: Macskwak on February 03, 2017, 07:28:50 AM
Quote from: Wookie on February 02, 2017, 09:59:34 PM
Jim you are a font of superior knowledge ..wook didn't know about the difference between clear silicon and black .
Mack that seal reminds me of a drunken one night stand in me late teenager life  :mfr_lol:
Woke up and you know that moment when you go ...
OMG ad didn't did ah ? then pray ya mates didn't see ya going off with a heffer  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:

Wooks i married mine lollol 😁  No not true she was bordering skinny but two kids later she gained nice size. Dont you love those wake up in shock moments 😁😁
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: virginiajim on February 03, 2017, 11:06:39 AM
Quote from: Macskwak on February 03, 2017, 07:23:45 AM
Sadly jim that was rtv i used n black too. Its soooo annoying but i think ill oversize anyway then heavily coat rear of sensor so it sills out leaving excess t wipe off this time. Hate doin jobs twice or more.

We have a member who sourced them outside of Kwackers as none of the Kwackers ones were worth a  :censored:.  I believe that they were a tad oversized.  I've got them in a drawer somewhere.  I think I had more than one (2).  This is the year I take it off the shelf and install it..  I know mine is leaking but it hasn't been bad enough to worry about.

Going back through that thread and someone sourced them outside of Kwackers...  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005RUS84I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.  But you have to buy 20 of the little buggers.

Here's our thread on the subject http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=13866.0 Rich no longer supplies them and I don't see them on Murph's site either  Murphskits.com

I did get an answer that Murphskits.com does carry them, but you should email them and get pricing to the UK should you so desire one.



Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: Macskwak on February 03, 2017, 07:42:20 PM
Quote from: virginiajim on February 03, 2017, 11:06:39 AM
We have a member who sourced them outside of Kwackers as none of the Kwackers ones were worth a  :censored:.  I believe that they were a tad oversized.  I've got them in a drawer somewhere.  I think I had more than one (2).  This is the year I take it off the shelf and install it..  I know mine is leaking but it hasn't been bad enough to worry about.

Going back through that thread and someone sourced them outside of Kwackers...  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005RUS84I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.  But you have to buy 20 of the little buggers.

Here's our thread on the subject http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=13866.0 Rich no longer supplies them and I don't see them on Murph's site either  Murphskits.com


Jim your a star i didnt get em from amazon but got em from simply bearings.com in uk. Thanks for the o ring size tho mate. Helped a lot 👍👍 ill give these a go
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: virginiajim on February 03, 2017, 07:48:05 PM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: shaggs147 on February 03, 2017, 08:21:26 PM
Might be worth going to a local seal manufacturer to see what they think. Not very expensive either

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Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: wildybeast on February 03, 2017, 08:27:21 PM
hydraulics company may be able to help. take a new one to compare.
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: Macskwak on February 03, 2017, 09:00:57 PM
Ye im gonna take old one off and compare new one. I expect it to be noticeably thicker i hope. More elastic tension and exterior pressure against the walls of the tube that the sensor slides into. Enough i hope to stop the leak. Il let you know 👍
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: Wookie on February 04, 2017, 05:45:03 PM
Quote from: Macskwak on February 03, 2017, 07:28:50 AM
Wooks i married mine lollol 😁  No not true she was bordering skinny but two kids later she gained nice size. Dont you love those wake up in shock moments 😁😁
Mack like mine ...ah love her more today than when we wedded .. why ? Coz there's more of her to love  :mfr_lol:
And what you meen is ... she us now built for comfort ... not speed  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: Macskwak on February 05, 2017, 11:00:27 PM
Ur right wook shes a real grand tourer lol 😁
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: highside on May 06, 2017, 07:28:02 PM
Hi guys can you point me in the right direction. Ive noticed some smoke cumming from the down-pipe aria on start up. only lasts for a 20 seconds or so then clear and no further smoke. None while riding or on tick-over. ive looked at the right hand side of the engine and pipes  and no visible leeks. looked at the left hand side and noticed old (i think) oil spray over the hoses and rubber pipes in that aria.  Ive  taken off the left hand fairing side panel and cleaned all round the pipes and other parts that i can reach with a rag. I then went for a ride and then checked and no visible oil drips found. Left her overnight then restarted her and same thing again smoke from around the 2 inner pipes then nothing. I cant see exactly where its coming from. Now ive only had the bike a short while so im not sure what im looking at. Dose this problem sound like the Cam sensor seal ? ... I cant find any pics on the net that shows the sensor on the 2011 engine.
Title: Re: Ruddy cam sensor seal
Post by: wildybeast on May 06, 2017, 09:59:36 PM
Sound like it to me.It is a common fault.There is a guy on the c.o.g  forum that sells an oversized sensor seal .Or see here Good luck. https://www.murphskits.com/product_info.php?products_id=528   Just found virginiajims post back a page .