Can anyone tell me if the tps module in the wheels is interchangeable between years I.e 2009 will fit a 2016 ?
Charlie
It will yes, it's only the later ones which are different but any can be interchanged, the difference is the early ones you can simply change the battery with a little soldering, the later ones you can't as they are sealed.
But remember, if you change any you need to have them coded to the ECU with the correct number, which is the pain in the rear.
Just changed the battery in my front one but can't in the rear as it was charged under warranty two years ago.
Alan
it's my understanding that the latest (2016) are different from previous years, I didnt think therefore that they would be interchangeable, but I could (probably )be wrong :smiley:
Thanks Alan, that's what I thought after some investigation, just another project im working on to rectify something kawasaki couldn't do.
It would be good to see if anybody could find out who manufactures this and see if they would sell direct so Mr K does not get a huge markup on the price, but I suspect they might have some sort of trade deal so it can't happen.
Alan
Keep an eye out for em on eBay, but only buy UK ones as the ones from the USA work on a different frequency
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If I am correct ours are 335khz and the US ones 315khz
I will check the paperwork on mine in the morning but i think that's correct.
I think you mean Mhz not Khz and I can verify the US at 315Mhz. I show Euro at 434Mhz. Not sure if the UK is different from that.
You know what guys i suspect with a v sharp craft knife that you would carefully be able to open even the new ones. Id try anyway because its gonna be replaced if you go to dealers. Whats to lose you may as well try to open it. See if you can save yourself £300 a pair plus fitting. Jmo 👍😉
I'm sure someone may do that but I haven't heard of it over in the US.
Quote from: virginiajim on November 17, 2016, 11:50:24 PM
I think you mean Mhz not Khz and I can verify the US at 315Mhz. I show Euro at 434Mhz. Not sure if the UK is different from that.
Correct in the MHz I was tired while writing the post, and yes if my rear one dies I will attempt to get it apart as stated above it's being changed to nothing to lose.
Alan
think I still have an old pair in my garage from the last time I had them replaced if you want them Charley
Do they have the sticker still on indicating there unique number which is what's coded into the ECU?
Alan
Quick question, if you just change the batteries, (Mine is the old type), I take it there is no re-coding required as the sensor is the same, getting mine done next week, thanks.
Quote from: GTRpilot on November 18, 2016, 05:22:21 PM
Quick question, if you just change the batteries, (Mine is the old type), I take it there is no re-coding required as the sensor is the same, getting mine done next week, thanks.
Correct, the battery is a CR2032 but it has tabs on it to solder to, it helps if you can solder neatly as I could not find a battery with the solder tags in the same place, but yes new battery and away she goes.
Alan
Quote from: BigAlan on November 18, 2016, 06:45:25 PM
Correct, the battery is a CR2032 but it has tabs on it to solder to, it helps if you can solder neatly as I could not find a battery with the solder tags in the same place, but yes new battery and away she goes.
Alan
Cheers, got the batts, my local bike garage is doing the exchange for me, I enquired with Kawasaki and they insisted the sensor's had to be changed, and you couldn't just swop the batteries, and it would cost..........£££££££😨
That's Mr K wanting his cash, or rather your cash.
I just did my front one and it's sat on the bench ready to go back in, easy peasy.
Alan
Yep i did mine in the tyre bay at the bike shop. He took em off i had the sensors out n batteries in n he put em back on. All done in half hour 👍😀. I saved myself over 300 quid. Gotta be in my bank not mr k's. :banana:
Thanks for the info, what I'm doing is making a new support post the tps sensor to take a 90 degree valve mk1 is complete same dimensions as kawasaki except flats on the top to accept a 19mm spanner.
Ive actually been to japan and did a lot of research before i went o and learned a fair bit of japanese too lol. What i learned was how methodical and precise they are as a people. They like to do everyhing correct and this is what facinates me most of all about our bikes. There are so many little niggly bits that dont make sense as design flaws considering its a JAPANESE bike like tyre valves not being ninety degrees n cam position sensor seal being too small n leaking or rust under seat by tank n discs not being up to the job n warping in no time( mine now warped and i am no racer or late braker for sure) very surprised i have to say. They are a very nice race of people, i found them very polite and a fantastic country to visit i would thouroughly recommend it. 😃👍
Good points mac, :agree:
But every bike or car or product in general is built to a price, and no matter how small/insignificant a component may seem in the overall scheme of things it still has a cost.
For many years I worked for a major importer/wholesaler of German cars (not BMW) and can say that their marketing department had a huge influence about specification from the production line and its result on the end product, we used to complain about some elements of vehicle specification, only to be advused that it was "down to cost" !
I do agree that the valve stems on the GTR and many bikes are a royal pain in the :asshole: , the BMW bikes I owned had valves that were at least accessible.
The amount of stuff written on a regular basis on tps does make me wonder if the hassle is worth it. More stuff to cause problems I feel.
Well I have to agree with prd ( did I really say that :clap:), personally I think tps is a pain had it on my car now gone since putting huge wheels on and removed from my bike at last tyre change . I figure diligent weekly checks and knowing how the vehicle feels in an ok state is enough managed 30 yrs without to much problem. Have standard 90 degree valves on my bike easy to check and inflate I'm just working on this incase people would like to have ease of use and keep the tps .
I take your point Charlie but having had two punctures (easy now PRD :mfr_lol:) I can honestly say that I was very thankful that I got early warning of the deflation because I could not feel anything different with the bikes handling, with the last puncture the pressure was dropping very, very rapidly, I reckon if I hadn't pulled over I would have been fighting a 300+ Kilo machine at 65 mph :eek: the possible consequences don't bear thinking about :no:
Frankly I wouldn't want to be without it now
Well oc leave your wallet at home from now on and itll be a lot lighter to handle :mfr_lol:
Lol sorry oc Yep make you right i like knowing pressures are stable n half hours work is worth the effort changing batterys to save all that messing in the garage eh?
Quote from: O.C. on November 20, 2016, 04:03:44 PM
I take your point Charlie but having had two punctures (easy now PRD :mfr_lol:) I can honestly say that I was very thankful that I got early warning of the deflation because I could not feel anything different with the bikes handling, with the last puncture the pressure was dropping very, very rapidly, I reckon if I hadn't pulled over I would have been fighting a 300+ Kilo machine at 65 mph :eek: the possible consequences don't bear thinking about :no:
Frankly I wouldn't want to be without it now
as f I would say anything!!
I've got used to them on all my vehicles. My Tacoma has them and one of the first things I check on it is the tire pressure via the screen when starting off for a drive. I do check pressures but only about once every week. I like them and will not have a vehicle without them anymore.
I think they should be standard figment on all bikes with Michelin tyres!!
Quote from: virginiajim on November 21, 2016, 11:03:29 AM
I've got used to them on all my vehicles. My Tacoma has them and one of the first things I check on it is the tire pressure via the screen when starting off for a drive. I do check pressures but only about once every week. I like them and will not have a vehicle without them anymore.
I have them on my bike and jeep and would find it hard to be without now after all the years of having them :yes:
Both Batteries changed, all good for £60 :yes: