Hi folks
I'm pretty new to the GTR forum so forgive me if this point has been covered before. I've just moved from a ZZR to a new GTR and would really like to benefit from the experiences of more established riders; first of all to say - I really love the bike for all the reasons that you already know, it's smooth and poweful, really comfortable and handles beautifully. Is there a downside? Yes, to me the screen is really disappointing. Unlike some riders I don't find buffeting or weather protection a problem, but the noise is a major distraction and marrs what would otherwise be - to me - the perfect bike. By adjsuting the height of the screen you can find the "sweet spot" where the noise is minimised, but it is still noisy. I think this is due to the poor airflow with the airstream being broken up on the trailing edge of the screen rather than being deflected so that it flows smoothly upwards and over the rider's head. I have done a bit of research and there does seem to be an aftermarket screen which might overcome overcomes this problem - the Cee Baileys Euro Touring Screen. Unfortunately these cost around £200, a price I would be willing to pay if I could be sure it would cure the problem. If anyone out there has experience of these screens or any other helpful advice, I would love to hear from them!
a warm welcome to the forum Robin, and I now you will love your 2016 GTR. There is soooo much help and info on here so don't ever be afraid to ask any questions.
I have a 2016 GTR, its my fourth, so I can recall how screens have developed over the years.
I dont know what you riding regime will be but I can recommend the Laminar Lip, which is an addition to the top of your standard screen and wont cost anything like as much as an aftermarket screen.
Good luck and if there's anything else we can help with just ask
If you use the searcb facility for Laminar Lip you will find plenty other advice :yes:
Thanks for the tip, I'll look into this.
Quote from: Robin on November 16, 2016, 10:55:43 PM
Hi folks
I'm pretty new to the GTR forum so forgive me if this point has been covered before. I've just moved from a ZZR to a new GTR and would really like to benefit from the experiences of more established riders; first of all to say - I really love the bike for all the reasons that you already know, it's smooth and poweful, really comfortable and handles beautifully. Is there a downside? Yes, to me the screen is really disappointing. Unlike some riders I don't find buffeting or weather protection a problem, but the noise is a major distraction and marrs what would otherwise be - to me - the perfect bike. By adjsuting the height of the screen you can find the "sweet spot" where the noise is minimised, but it is still noisy. I think this is due to the poor airflow with the airstream being broken up on the trailing edge of the screen rather than being deflected so that it flows smoothly upwards and over the rider's head. I have done a bit of research and there does seem to be an aftermarket screen which might overcome overcomes this problem - the Cee Baileys Euro Touring Screen. Unfortunately these cost around £200, a price I would be willing to pay if I could be sure it would cure the problem. If anyone out there has experience of these screens or any other helpful advice, I would love to hear from them!
Hiya Robin, Welcome to the madhouse. Us old farts are ganging up on the young whipper snappers now. I changed my screen, which is the older one without the vent, and put on an MRA Vario. It works reasonably well for me but its not perfect. Just an improvement on the old one.
Hope you are enjoying the change of bike and maybe you could look at joining Syd and myself at next years forum meet.
Mo
Laminar lip +1
Fitted three years ago best add on I have, so much so I have another standard screen with a spare laminar lip fitted just in case.
Alan
Hi Robin
I have the after market tall screen fitted as I am on tall side @ 6' 3" and still found trouble with buffeting and wind noise, so went with the laminar lip from eBay (322172957996) works brilliantly, so quiet can now here road and engine noise from gap by bars, also no buffeting now.
The laminar lip works by smoothing out the flow of air as it leaves the tip of the screen.
Another vote for the Laminar Lip here as well!
Went with a Calsci XL just after I bought the bike, yep, that was quiet, but just too big! Too removed from the air flow!.
Gone back to standard screen (2008) with lip, really happy, albeit still suffer some noise but little turbulence.
It's a real issue that is only resolved by trial, we're all different, posture, height, helmets.
Try and ride as many as you can with different options, could save yourself some serious monies!
Hi Robin
Welcome. ive only had my GTR for 10 months or so but had exactly the same issue. noise was horrendous! ive been through 3 screens from Std, MRA and now.. a Calsci XL. its worked for me 100%. i have to have it right up to fix the wind noise but its made it 95% better
as a note, i also managed to find a Std Screen with a Laminar lip on from ebay for £11 !! result so what i did was fit the laminar lip to the Calsci and its far better
Calski XL widely vailbale on ebay bud
hope helps
Hi Robin and welcome ..
I took rogs O.C advice and fitted the laminar lip to my 16 plate kwak .. it works damn good .. noise down by 90% and still air on me bonce .
I am 6ft and fitted the lip so when the screens fully extended the top of the lip is just below my horizontal eye line .
Hope this helps :smiley:
Thanks for all the good advice and help on this issue, I've now got plenty of ideas to work on! The Laminar Lip sounds good and if all else fails then the Calsci screen could be worth a try. When I've taken the issue a bit further, I'll get back on the forum and let you know what worked.
Thanks once again, Robin.
good luck Robin and don't dissappear from the forum, keep posting and join in the fun :yes:
Quote from: Robin on November 18, 2016, 07:56:15 PM
Thanks for all the good advice and help on this issue, I've now got plenty of ideas to work on! The Laminar Lip sounds good and if all else fails then the Calsci screen could be worth a try. When I've taken the issue a bit further, I'll get back on the forum and let you know what worked.
Thanks once again, Robin.
Robin,
If its any help to you I have a screen with a Laminar lip that you can borrow to try out. I'm coming up to London on Dec 10th and could leave it with Syd if you like. Let me know as I have to clamber up into the loft to get it.
Mo
When I was a wee little one in the 50's, my nickname was Robin. Mom said I had my mouth open for food all the time, I might as well be one.
Very happy with the laminar X creen from MRA.
Coming from a bmw tourer only issue on my Gtr was the screen, wind and buffering indeed.
Was looking for years and last year i had found the perfect solution for me anyway.
Its great now and whats special bout this one.. You can always adjust it the way you want !
Good luck :punk:
Quote from: virginiajim on November 19, 2016, 12:28:17 AM
When I was a wee little one in the 50's, my nickname was Robin. Mom said I had my mouth open for food all the time, I might as well be one.
My Sister was also nicknamed Robin. Something to do with a red breast :mfr_lol: But true
you know we like pictures on here
Quote from: O.C. on November 18, 2016, 09:11:44 PM
good luck Robin and don't dissappear from the forum, keep posting and join in the fun :yes:
Coz if you do dissappear O.C knows were ya live ..and you don't want an octagenarian in LYCRA lookin for ya :mfr_lol:
Quote from: Wookie on November 20, 2016, 07:19:46 PM
Coz if you do dissappear O.C knows were ya live ..and you don't want an octagenarian in LYCRA lookin for ya :mfr_lol:
I know Robin Wookie and that would make 2 of them. Just dont let me and Syd go there or it will be like a Saga day out :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Quote from: Wookie on November 20, 2016, 07:19:46 PM
Coz if you do dissappear O.C knows were ya live ..and you don't want an octagenarian in LYCRA lookin for ya :mfr_lol:
I find that remark offensive Wookie
I told you to keep the Lycra thing quiet :mfr_lol:
:oops:v :mfr_lol: :kiss:
Over here, they are a sign of spring. Always feel better when I see them.
Picked up late on this thread, so big warm welcome Robin, glad you found the GTR Forum. Great bunch of people on here. I have the laminar lip fitted to my bike so if you want another ride on my "Team Green" then let me know, we could meet up somewhere ( maybe Finchingfield for Sunday morning coffee). It seems like all other aspects of the bike have ticked the boxes, congratulations, I know how much you treasured your ZZR, but at our age the GTR gives that extra bit of comfort with no real loss of the thrill of the ride.
Mo, not ready for Saga yet, but I agree we are getting quite long in the tooth :mfr_lol:
I may be too old for saga membership :mfr_lol:
Gardening club?
yeah, that sounds promising Jim :whistling:
Tea club O. C ?
We have a canny one up here :mfr_lol:
ya can't beat a brew of good Yorkshire tea, plus a slice of Brack :yes:
I'm gonna need a translating app..
Quote from: virginiajim on November 21, 2016, 10:04:20 PM
I'm gonna need a translating app..
here you go Jim, an description and a recipe, now get into the kitchen and bake yourself a treat :clap:
Edit: just noticed I didn't copy the link.....DUH :mfr_lol:
http://www.jamesmartinchef.co.uk/recipe/yorkshire-brack/#.WDRRb16nzMI
Quote from: O.C. on November 21, 2016, 09:46:16 PM
ya can't beat a brew of good Yorkshire tea, plus a slice of Brack :yes:
Yep York tea dark brown and a chunk of buttered Bannock yummmmmmm
Quote from: O.C. on November 21, 2016, 09:46:16 PM
ya can't beat a brew of good Yorkshire tea, plus a slice of Brack :yes:
:agree: but I like my Brack minus the jam and cream and the brew hot and strong. How did we get from Saga to this ??? :popcorn:
You're doing that on purpose, aren't you?
Aye less of the Eckythump and black puddin lingo ... let's Ave English ya geet daft gonyals :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Quote from: iamkwackers on November 22, 2016, 03:31:39 PM
:agree: but I like my Brack minus the jam and cream and the brew hot and strong. How did we get from Saga to this ??? :popcorn:
Because Saga and a good brew go hand in hand but living in Devon you have to have your jam and cream with scones. The burning question is - Do you put the cream on top of the jam or the jam on top of the cream?
How the hell we got from after market screens to this I have no idea. Sorry Robin
Quote from: moayling on November 22, 2016, 06:43:53 PM
How the hell we got from after market screens to this I have no idea. Sorry Robin
It all started with someone's sisters nickname of Robin :banana:
Quote from: Wookie on November 22, 2016, 06:56:03 PM
It all started with someone's sisters nickname of Robin :banana:
:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Haven't been on the forum for a couple of days and only just noticed Syd and Mo's kind offers. Just had my Laminar Lip delivered today so I won't need to take you up on your generosity! Will report back when I've given it a try although from what everyone says, it seems to do the trick for most riders. Glad to see that this thread has provide the opportunity for a bit of levity!
Hope it works for you Robin
The James Martin recipe is a bit OTT, although maybe a touch of Whiskey in the mixture isnt such a bad idea......
Right Robin, let us know how you get on with the Laminar Lip :clap:
Aye Robin please do :smiley:
Now then O.C speaking of whiskey in a cake ..WoOk had a revelation in ALDI ...It called whiskey cake ..it's like a chrimmy fruit cake and it's bloody lurvly :smiley:
And no Mary Berry had nowt to dood wiv it :mfr_lol:
I like to make my own Brack Wook, but I'll look out for the Aldi cake :yes:
Quote from: Wookie on November 23, 2016, 04:54:22 PM
Aye Robin please do :smiley:
Now then O.C speaking of whiskey in a cake ..WoOk had a revelation in ALDI ...It called whiskey cake ..it's like a chrimmy fruit cake and it's bloody lurvly :smiley:
And no Mary Berry had nowt to dood wiv it :mfr_lol:
I'm with the Wook here, looking for a slab of fruit or cherry cake could find none in Aldi, but saw the whisky cake, had to be tried!
With a spread of butter on it's absolutely gorgeous! Not doing me diet much good tho! :no: :no:
Yep Snowy ya bang on :smiley:
O.C .. fruit cake is the only sort WoOk likes and er indoors only meks em at Chrimbo ....
But since ah got me paws on the whiskey cake .. its yummmmm... every Friday woooohoooo :agree: :mfr_lol:
:offtopic: all good stuff but the O.P posted about aftermarket screens
Time to get back on track lads :yes:
Awwwwwww! Spoil sport :mfr_lol:
Anyone got the V Stream screen?