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Title: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: walmsleyr on November 06, 2016, 03:50:50 PM
hi all newby here,im still riding my orange versys 1000,im getting itchy feet ive asked for a gtr 1400 test ride at a kwak dealer it seems not many dealers have the gtr available for a test ride.any way we will see who pops up with an offer.my main reason to move up is the versys is not very good on the auto routes in Europe when pushing it in my opinion. its a good machine except high speed issue.iv edone 16000 miles  in 2 years.has any one any comment s..im going to the nec bike show so I'm going to get all the info from the kwak stable.
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: BigAlan on November 06, 2016, 04:27:37 PM
Mate of mine also has a Versys in orange and is trading it in for a new Yamaha MT10 as the Versys are over 120 mph seems in his opinion to go light on the front and weave around, obviously that's not happening here in this country but it did when we were blasting along the motorways in Germany earlier.

Paid a deposit and collects in when the new reg comes out.

On the other hand my GTR handled the speed easily enough.
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: PRD on November 06, 2016, 04:36:59 PM
I think the GTR is being dropped from the UK line up next year so it may not be at NEC. You won't regret the change if you do it?
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: O.C. on November 06, 2016, 05:09:57 PM
Hi Walmsley and welcome along  to this excellent forum where good solid advice and fun is in abundance.  (I know you from the Versys forum)

It really depends what your needs and expectations are from a bike, and you have clearly stated that you need a bike which is perhaps better suited to your long distance touring trips.

I'm currently riding  my fourth GTR1400 and also had a first generation Versys 1000 back in 2013, ~~ now, the Versys is a very fine bike and it did everything I asked of it with the majority of my riding being within the U.K, But the GTR simply does all that and more even better than the big Versys, yes its a big heavy bike but it carries its weight very well and it is faaàast.

Without stating the obvious you REALLY need to try one, I'm not sure which dealer near you has a demo so ring around and get yourself a good ride out booked

Good luck and keep us posted   :yes:   
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: zedmeister on November 06, 2016, 06:14:02 PM
Quote from: PRD on November 06, 2016, 04:36:59 PM
I think the GTR is being dropped from the UK line up next year so it may not be at NEC. You won't regret the change if you do it?

Quite right PRD unfortunately the GTR is being dropped as it will not make the Euro 4 regulations ( Also the Honda CBR 600RR ) Mr K not sure when a replacement will be available but my guess is Late 2018, wouldn't surprise me if the groundwork has already been done. 

Walmsleyr  - Have you tried Robspeed? - Italia Moto?
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: nightrider on November 06, 2016, 07:12:59 PM
One thing. You will notice on the gtr is how super smooth. They are  even at very high speed it feels like it's just ticking over , have just read a road trip test on the versy and one of the things that was said was at 95 it's doing 6500 revs ,the gtr don't do that at 120 so is very relaxed at speed , it's a ideal motorway blaster , I had a zzr11 then 12  , but the gtr is in another league ,  one test ride and i though I having one of these , 4 years later I still love it ,  :biker3:
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: Macskwak on November 06, 2016, 10:40:30 PM
Quote from: nightrider on November 06, 2016, 07:12:59 PM
One thing. You will notice on the gtr is how super smooth. They are  even at very high speed it feels like it's just ticking over , have just read a road trip test on the versy and one of the things that was said was at 95 it's doing 6500 revs ,the gtr don't do that at 120 so is very relaxed at speed , it's a ideal motorway blaster , I had a zzr11 then 12  , but the gtr is in another league ,  one test ride and i though I having one of these , 4 years later I still love it ,  :biker3:

Yep ditto. Ive had big bms n hondas and little racers but the gtr is by far the best yet. It has pois  size  handling  oh so much speed and its pretty from every angle. Ive lost count how many times its being eyed up n down at lights. Engine is bullet proof and pulls like a train. You wont regret it for sure 👍👍
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: Macskwak on November 06, 2016, 10:41:24 PM
Oh welcome to the forum by the way 👍
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: Wookie on November 08, 2016, 08:39:16 AM
Also the GTR power plant is soooo easy to run its a turbine and will last if looked after for 100 miles .. the very engine whilst being tough is primarily a screamer .. the GTR gives LOADS of weather and wind protection ..were as a side adventure bike doesn't (trust me 30k in a trumpet tiggur across Europe ain't fun )
Go for the GTR it will save you money in the long run and make u grin every time you press the button
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: shaggs147 on November 08, 2016, 07:25:22 PM
100 miles? eek  :sweatdrop: :oops:
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: Wookie on November 08, 2016, 09:02:40 PM
Oh bugga ..wook missed the K off ...100.000k how's dat ?? :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: O.C. on November 08, 2016, 09:30:43 PM
Quote from: Wookie on November 08, 2016, 09:02:40 PM
Oh bugga ..wook missed the K off ...100.000k how's dat ?? :mfr_lol:

no wookie now youve gone too far, I'm thinking you meant 100,000 or 100K  :yes:   
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: Wookie on November 08, 2016, 10:10:58 PM
Oh bugga .. AGAIN !!! :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Ya get the idea tho
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: virginiajim on November 09, 2016, 12:54:51 AM
What's a versys 1000?
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: O.C. on November 09, 2016, 07:25:48 AM
one of these Jim, they are available in the Good ol US of A  :yes:   

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/bikes/motorcycles/kawasaki/versys-1000?gclid=CL7Xq66Sm9ACFbgW0wod8yABzg&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CI_J1K6Sm9ACFUekUQodl-MCwA 
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: Wookie on November 09, 2016, 08:36:35 AM
A Versy  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:Jim is a bike just not as we know it
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: Macskwak on November 09, 2016, 09:29:21 AM
Quote from: Wookie on November 09, 2016, 08:36:35 AM
A Versy  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:Jim is a bike just not as we know it

But with uprated dylithium chrystals wook it gets great gas mileage 😀 Not sure about warp speed tho  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: Wookie on November 09, 2016, 11:11:36 AM
Aye hoots mon she will no take much more captain ..
oh bugga thats not correct .. it ain't a WMB  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: virginiajim on November 09, 2016, 12:13:06 PM
I didn't think that there were any other bikes except for the GTR (C14).   
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: Wookie on November 09, 2016, 12:48:19 PM
There aren't lol  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: PaulB on November 09, 2016, 05:29:06 PM
Quote from: virginiajim on November 09, 2016, 12:54:51 AM
What's a versys 1000?

aka Kawasaki KLZ 1000.

Cheers,

Paul B.
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: walmsleyr on November 12, 2016, 03:56:55 PM
how do you all cope with the machines weight at lowish speeds?i had a cb1300 before the versys that was quite heavy. still no offers of a test ride!
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: PRD on November 12, 2016, 05:02:54 PM
Once rolling no prob with weight. Have you tried Wheels in Peterborough. They have a low mileage one and are usually pretty good about test rides.
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: Wookie on November 12, 2016, 08:18:08 PM
Only prob ah have with weight is were to slap me belly down on the tank p :mfr_lol:
Honestly folk get so scared if mc weight .. as long as both feet will touch the ground you won't notice it .
Do you worry about weight with a pillion ..ah su spect not .
Do you worry about weight with luggage on ..ah suspect not .
Just get on and ride the bike ... if you worry about any bikes weight ya defeated before you start  :smiley:
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: nightrider on November 12, 2016, 08:37:54 PM
All you have to do with weight is to show it respect , do not park anywhere where it's is slightly down hill , make sure that your feet are planted before pillion gets on , and keep it upright at all times when moving it about and there will be no mishaps ,  or fit good  crash bars so if it does topple then no harm done ,  :biker3:
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: O.C. on November 12, 2016, 09:17:54 PM
Quote from: nightrider on November 12, 2016, 08:37:54 PM
All you have to do with weight is to show it respect , do not park anywhere where it's is slightly down hill , make sure that your feet are planted before pillion gets on , and keep it upright at all times when moving it about and there will be no mishaps ,  or fit good  crash bars so if it does topple then no harm done ,  :biker3:


:agree:  like he said   :yes:   
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: virginiajim on November 13, 2016, 03:31:08 PM
Quote from: walmsleyr on November 12, 2016, 03:56:55 PM
how do you all cope with the machines weight at lowish speeds?i had a cb1300 before the versys that was quite heavy. still no offers of a test ride!

Weight?  It's only heavy if it falls on you.
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: 2kwacks on November 13, 2016, 05:10:13 PM
Had both these bikes :smiley: the 2010 GTR and the 2013 versys 1000 both excellent machines :yes: but which is best.. it depends what you want it for :yes: both bikes will eat the miles but the GTR will do it in more comfort.. can't comment on the versys being unsteady at 120 m.p.h never been in that much hurry when touring. I've toured on the versys/ GTR and ZZR at least 3,000 miles at a time over a 10 day tour. love the zzr but unless you intend on cruising at 150 m.p.h with another 30 m.p.h on tap just in case you need to over take :sweatdrop: then you may as well have a bike with more wind protection. so the GTR is now looking the best :undecided: on that because that depends.. it's a heavy bike to move around after a 8 hour ride in the saddle which I found out at the end of every day. so this leaves the big V which would be my choice :yes: at more than 60 kg lighter than the GTR that's like having a size 10 fit as hell bird on the back when trying to move the bike around. the big V will still cruise at 100 m.p.h all day with ease in safety at 50 miles to the gallon and will handle the twisties no problem when you want to have some fun.. and will carry all the gear you will ever need and at the end of a long days riding and your manoeuvring the bike to park your less likely to go head over tit and drop the bugger and look like a complete Knob :whistling lol.....

P.S now your thinking well why didn't he buy the versys 1000 when replacing his ZZR? well that's easy.. first of all I prefered not to have a bike that I had before.. may as well get some thing different. also my 2015 zzr1400 performance sport ohlins model was only 6 months old when I returned from my recent 3,200 miles 10 day tour then decided to swap to a more comfy bike for touring in the future. but was thinking of the big V grand tourer but could not get a decent trade in price for my zzr as the new big v was around the price new as my 6 month old zzr was worth. so when the b.m.w dealer offered me as p/x for my zzr what the new big versys cost new of a new 2016 r1200 gs lc te I thought I'm paying more for the GS but on the plus side I'm getting a lot more in the process.. what the b.m.w r1200 gs lc te dose not have factory fitted as standard is not worth having! plus I'm getting £2,000 more than I was offered of the new big V from a kawasaki dealer..  this way I get a different bike with 125 b.h.p good wind protection excellent handling comfy enough on long tours and will eat the miles up and weighs approx 30 kg less than the big V and a big fat ugly bird lighter than the GTR :smiley:  plus I'm keeping the £2,000 more I got as p/x value in the b.m.w for the future :smiley:
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: PRD on November 13, 2016, 06:13:34 PM
Makes sense.
Title: Re: versys 1000 to gtr1400
Post by: wag on November 14, 2016, 09:16:02 PM
Howdy Walms' , you're not related to WalmsleyI from Glossop ,are you