May2017 trip early days of planning but what do you think any suggest, places to visit /stay on route that we should consider.
Trip goes to France, Germany, Austria, Italy, Slovenia, Croatia, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Poland, Belarus, Ukraine and then back home from Germany via Holland. 13 countries
Friday – get to Calais, stay in IBIS Calais
Saturday – Calais to Strasbourg (or nearby) 5 hrs 384 miles
Sunday – Strasbourg to Salzburg 4.5 hrs, 324 miles, visit eagles nest and try to go to lichenstein
Monday – Salzburg to Venice 3.75 hrs 270 miles and then to Llubljana Slovenia 148 miles
Tuesday – Llubljana to Zagreb 85 miles and then to Budapest hungary 215 miles 3 hrs
Wedneday – rest day in Budapest
Thursday Budapest to Cluj Romania 285 miles, 4 hr
Friday – Cluj to Kosice Slovakia 4 hrs 257 miles
Saturday – Kosice to warsaw 7 hrs, 400 miles
Sunday – stay in warsaw
Monday – ride to Brest Belarus and go into Ukraine (briefly) and back to warsaw 250 miles round trip
Tuesday and Wednesday ride from Warsaw to TDT destination (Northern Germany)– arrive Wednesday night
Thursday – rest day
Friday, Saturday, Sunday with European GTR club
Monday come home
First Sunday stay in beautiful Gengenbach. Not far from Strasbourg. Lovely medieval town.
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Looking at the distance you have put and the time to do it seems a little on the hopeful side , fuel stops and food breaks add on time some of the places you are going ,slovina for one is a beautiful place and to stop and see some of the sights is worth doing , I try to do no more than 250m in a day so I can have lots of stops and find it so much more relaxing and enjoyable, still have a good trip ,
Makes my plans to ride to Zagreb look like a Sunday run out :yes:
Eagles Nest needs at least 3 hours. I got there this last June. The trip up is by coach only , the tour is 2 - 3 hours and we had to wait an hour for the next coach. Didn't bother in the end. Went round the visitor/shop area and not a single mention of 1939/45. Bizarre.
Your mileages and timings suggest solid motorway/autobahn/autoroutes. So borng!!
Must agree with Burchy, the distances/times seem quite ambitious if you want to enjoy the trip.
You'll end up riding boring roads and see nothing.
Think it may be better to halve the countries visited to double your time in each place and save the other half for another trip. You'll enjoy it more and it'll allow you to explore things you stumble on along the way. It's a hard thing to do as I wanted to explore as much of Europe as I could when I went. I soon realised that I wasn't going to get to all the places i planned, so had to modify it. I think if you do that route in that timescale you won't see half of what you want to and will be completely knackered after a few days. Have fun whatever you decide!
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Quote from: Burchy on November 05, 2016, 10:50:10 PM
Eagles Nest needs at least 3 hours. I got there this last June. The trip up is by coach only , the tour is 2 - 3 hours and we had to wait an hour for the next coach. Didn't bother in the end. Went round the visitor/shop area and not a single mention of 1939/45. Bizarre.
Your mileages and timings suggest solid motorway/autobahn/autoroutes. So borng!!
We went in June this year, it was great. The trip to the top is well worth it. There are strict and specific rules in Germany and Austria about how the war and Hitler are advertised/remembered etc, so they are not glorified in any way. Most of the buildings/treasures owned by Hitler and his men were demolished after the war to destroy the memory of the horrors. The Eagles Nest was saved and allowed to remain as long as there was no suggestion of war or Hitler being celebrated or glorified in any way. That is my simplistic understanding of what we were told by the people who work there.