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Title: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: snowy on August 21, 2016, 02:30:58 PM
Ok, I'm up for the chocolate spanner award! :embarrassed:
Wont go into detail, but bike took a spill today, I am so glad that I paid the money for the Kawasaki engine bars!
Basically bike got nudged back whilst on side stand, over she went with that horrible sound of grating plastic!
But, after a mixture of anger and adrenaline rush, got her righted, all damage was impact scuffs to lower edge of coloured mirror trim, slight gravel rash on rear end of original can and small scuff on engine crash bar and R&G bush mounted on rear offside of swing arm.
Think I paid £240 from a dealer in Germany for the engine bars, the insurance paid off! Minimal damage to remind me and make good!
Still feel like a first class  :asshole: though! :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: iamkwackers on August 21, 2016, 03:54:57 PM
 :oops: glad the damage was minimal, and the engine bars and bobbins did their job  :clap:  don't feel so bad about it Snowro, it has happened to most of us at some time or other  :yes:  :yes:
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: O.C. on August 21, 2016, 03:59:31 PM
Quote from: iamkwackers on August 21, 2016, 03:54:57 PM
:oops: glad the damage was minimal, and the engine bars and bobbins did their job  :clap:  don't feel so bad about it Snowro, it has happened to most of us at some time or other  :yes:  :yes:


:agree:  the bars did their job, there are very few motorcyclists out there who haven't experienced a spill at one time or another 
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: Lonewolf on August 21, 2016, 06:13:52 PM
These things happen, where did you bury the person who nudged your bike and made it fall over?  :whistling:
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: snowy on August 21, 2016, 06:34:03 PM
Quote from: The Wolf on August 21, 2016, 06:13:52 PM
These things happen, where did you bury the person who nudged your bike and made it fall over?  :whistling:

:embarrassed:
Thats why I never explained in detail! Home goal I'm afraid!
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: PRD on August 21, 2016, 06:43:19 PM
We have all done things like that! It won't happen to k16's due to their farce I mean force field!
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: Lonewolf on August 21, 2016, 06:46:45 PM
Quote from: snowr0 on August 21, 2016, 06:34:03 PM
:embarrassed:
Thats why I never explained in detail! Home goal I'm afraid!


I did something similar on the GTR when I parked up and put the side stand down before getting off only to then see the bike listing to its left and coming to a rest on a dry stone wall due to the soft ground. I was annoyed with myself but thankfully it only damaged a mirror.
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: shaggs147 on August 21, 2016, 09:50:27 PM
Yep done it myself too.... always park the bike in gear now to prevent it rolling forwards

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Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: jayjay10117 on August 22, 2016, 07:53:18 PM
Are your engine bars the genuine Kawasaki items...loke like a heavy metal bar which is mounted to the frame and runs along the side of the fairing then appears to stop  (think the part no. is 123CPS0032 )  or are they the tubular type??
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: snowy on August 22, 2016, 08:30:37 PM
Quote from: jayjay10117 on August 22, 2016, 07:53:18 PM
Are your engine bars the genuine Kawasaki items...loke like a heavy metal bar which is mounted to the frame and runs along the side of the fairing then appears to stop  (think the part no. is 123CPS0032 )  or are they the tubular type??

Genuine Kawasaki bars, seen here:-
(http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w473/snowr0/siene1_zpstv5isg0b.jpg) (http://s1077.photobucket.com/user/snowr0/media/siene1_zpstv5isg0b.jpg.html)

Not sure if they're the same part for 2015 model, but well impressed with these, just a small scuff that should lift out with a bit of wet n dry!
If you're looking for these sure it was £240 new I paid from a German dealer, not the £399 Appleyards want, but still cheap compared to a fairing!
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: pross on August 22, 2016, 08:52:51 PM
I had these on my 2009 bike.
IMHO I think they are more appealing than the tube ones I have now and as you said they did there job  :yes:
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: snowy on August 22, 2016, 11:06:39 PM
Quote from: pross on August 22, 2016, 08:52:51 PM
I had these on my 2009 bike.
IMHO I think they are more appealing than the tube ones I have now and as you said they did there job  :yes:

:agree:
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: jayjay10117 on August 23, 2016, 09:06:13 AM
I really like the look of these.  Expensive but so much better looking than the tubular ones.  Having almost binned it a couple of weeks ago when I lost the front ( roundabout + heavy rain + diesel is not a good combination )  I have been looking into crash bars.  Just on the subject, and something that perhaps would be better on a new post, a mate of mine told me, after my little scare, that he had heard that the GTR could be prone to losing the front end.  Anybody else ever come across this rumour???
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: GTRpilot on August 23, 2016, 09:16:30 AM
Quote from: jayjay10117 on August 23, 2016, 09:06:13 AM
I really like the look of these.  Expensive but so much better looking than the tubular ones.  Having almost binned it a couple of weeks ago when I lost the front ( roundabout + heavy rain + diesel is not a good combination )  I have been looking into crash bars.  Just on the subject, and something that perhaps would be better on a new post, a mate of mine told me, after my little scare, that he had heard that the GTR could be prone to losing the front end.  Anybody else ever come across this rumour???

Why?
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: jayjay10117 on August 23, 2016, 09:35:02 AM
Quote from: GTRpilot on August 23, 2016, 09:16:30 AM
Why?

Well, a friend was just in front of me at the time and suffered no issue.  I've never heard the rumour and wondered if anyone else had.  Never happened to me before in almost 40 years, tyres good etc.  Perhaps my suspension is badly set up which might have contributed.  Just looking for answers really.
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: PRD on August 23, 2016, 11:28:39 AM
Never heard that one before. For the type of bike handling is excellent on GTR.
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: virginiajim on August 23, 2016, 12:24:08 PM
Quote from: jayjay10117 on August 23, 2016, 09:06:13 AM
I really like the look of these.  Expensive but so much better looking than the tubular ones.  Having almost binned it a couple of weeks ago when I lost the front ( roundabout + heavy rain + diesel is not a good combination )  I have been looking into crash bars.  Just on the subject, and something that perhaps would be better on a new post, a mate of mine told me, after my little scare, that he had heard that the GTR could be prone to losing the front end.  Anybody else ever come across this rumour???

Any bike could 'lose' the front end on diesel/water/curves....  Even more so if the tires aren't properly inflated or worn.

The GTR/C14 is not prone to losing anything except the side cases, at least whilst anyone is watching.  I've never experienced anything like that.  Does your mate ride a GTR?  I haven't heard of that and I've been riding a GTR/C14 since 2007.  It's the best bike I've ever ridden.
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: jayjay10117 on August 23, 2016, 12:42:58 PM
Quote from: virginiajim on August 23, 2016, 12:24:08 PM
Any bike could 'lose' the front end on diesel/water/curves....  Even more so if the tires aren't properly inflated or worn.

The GTR/C14 is not prone to losing anything except the side cases, at least whilst anyone is watching.  I've never experienced anything like that.  Does your mate ride a GTR?  I haven't heard of that and I've been riding a GTR/C14 since 2007.  It's the best bike I've ever ridden.

No he was on an R1200RT.  I've not had the GTR for long but have hankered for one for years.  I am not disappointed in it in any way and it is a great handling bike.  The tyres were good though I was within the last 30 miles of home after a trip to France.  I did keep an eye on tyre pressures via the sensorsduring the trip but it would appear from other threads on here that they are not always to be trusted.  I understand that diesel can be anywhere, I suppose it's just that I wondered if suspension settings can have a major influence on situations like this.  Have found settings on the site so intend to check where mine are in relation to the approved or tried and tested ones
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: GTRpilot on August 23, 2016, 01:15:37 PM
I think you have answered your own question, "Roundabout, heavy rain and diesel", your mate may have missed the diesel that caught you out, if he was on a slightly different line?
On diesel, generally, everyone's a passenger  :oops:
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: GTRpilot on August 23, 2016, 01:17:00 PM
Quote from: snowr0 on August 22, 2016, 08:30:37 PM
Genuine Kawasaki bars, seen here:-
(http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w473/snowr0/siene1_zpstv5isg0b.jpg) (http://s1077.photobucket.com/user/snowr0/media/siene1_zpstv5isg0b.jpg.html)

Not sure if they're the same part for 2015 model, but well impressed with these, just a small scuff that should lift out with a bit of wet n dry!
If you're looking for these sure it was £240 new I paid from a German dealer, not the £399 Appleyards want, but still cheap compared to a fairing!

I like the look of those, but they appear to have increased in price somewhat.
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: jayjay10117 on August 23, 2016, 02:00:20 PM
 :agree:  and as I can think of nothing else that fulfills my needs any better, I intend to keep this one for a while.  Perhaps a set of these bars is called for...despite the price    :yes:

Oh and sorry snowr0 for hi-jacking your post
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: virginiajim on August 23, 2016, 02:20:31 PM
Quote from: jayjay10117 on August 23, 2016, 12:42:58 PM
No he was on an R1200RT. 

Say no more..... :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: O.C. on August 23, 2016, 02:40:39 PM
Quote from: jayjay10117 on August 23, 2016, 09:06:13 AM
I really like the look of these.  Expensive but so much better looking than the tubular ones.  Having almost binned it a couple of weeks ago when I lost the front ( roundabout + heavy rain + diesel is not a good combination )  I have been looking into crash bars.  Just on the subject, and something that perhaps would be better on a new post, a mate of mine told me, after my little scare, that he had heard that the GTR could be prone to losing the front end.  Anybody else ever come across this rumour???

jayjay, the straight reply to your comment that the GTR may be prone to losing the front end is.....it isn't, I don't know where your friend got this idea from   :no: 

With regard to the fitment if the Kawasaki crash protectors ~~~ be careful, as according to kawasaki they no longer service these particular bars, and despite me asking them if they would fit my own 2016 bike they suggested that I contact my dealer, what I'm saying is make sure they will fit your bike before buying  :yes:   
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: snowy on August 23, 2016, 02:44:19 PM
Quote from: GTRpilot on August 23, 2016, 01:17:00 PM
I like the look of those, but they appear to have increased in price somewhat.

I'll try and look out the receipt from where I got them last year, trust me I really wouldn't have paid £400 for them!
Appleyards on eBay asking same price this year as last.
But in hindsight................................................ :whistling:
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: pross on August 23, 2016, 04:54:20 PM
Quote from: snowr0 on August 23, 2016, 02:44:19 PM
I'll try and look out the receipt from where I got them last year, trust me I really wouldn't have paid £400 for them!
Appleyards on eBay asking same price this year as last.
But in hindsight................................................ :whistling:

I saw the price at  Appleyards but they didn't know if they would fit my 64 plate  :censored: and I had some enterprise pannier frames so bought the fronts for £170 I think they was but like the look of the others better I would have probably paid it if I new they fitted :yes:
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: GTRpilot on August 23, 2016, 05:07:13 PM
Quote from: snowr0 on August 23, 2016, 02:44:19 PM
I'll try and look out the receipt from where I got them last year, trust me I really wouldn't have paid £400 for them!
Appleyards on eBay asking same price this year as last.
But in hindsight................................................ :whistling:

I have a mate who was so excited about his first trip to Europe (Assen WSB), when we rode onto the ferry at Hull, he just got off the bike and walked away, no side stand or anything, luckily his soft luggage saved most of it, however the 30+ bikers who saw it made sure he remembered it for the duration of the crossing  :yes:
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: jayjay10117 on August 23, 2016, 05:30:05 PM
 :mfr_lol:  Can't believe it was ever mentioned again  :wink:
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: PaulB on August 23, 2016, 06:47:05 PM
Quote from: jayjay10117 on August 23, 2016, 02:00:20 PM
:agree:  and as I can think of nothing else that fulfills my needs any better, I intend to keep this one for a while.  Perhaps a set of these bars is called for...despite the price    :yes:

Oh and sorry snowr0 for hi-jacking your post

I'm 99% certain that those crash bars (as shown on snowr0's bike) were only available for (and will only fit) the original GTR. Owners of the newer version are lucky enough to have a choice of tubular crash bars from various manufacturers all at a much more reasonable price.

Cheers

Paul B.
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: O.C. on August 23, 2016, 08:49:05 PM
this afternoon I spoke with my mate at my dealer, he has spoken with kawasaki technical and they will not confirm that the kawasaki accessory bars will fit the later model bikes.

I'm a bit pissed off because I would definitely get some for mine.

It's a big and potentially expensive gamble to buy a set if they wont fit -- if any of you want to take the chance its up to you  :smiley: 

ABTW let me know if they do fit and I'll get myself a set
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: snowy on August 23, 2016, 08:58:06 PM
Sure Paul B is right as the fairing lowers / rad vents allow access to a good mounting point unlike the early one where you have to cut holes!
Found the place where I bought them, amazed at what they stock!    :-

http://www.kfm-motorraeder.de/cms/original-ersatzteile/kawasaki-motorrad-teile?itemid=123CPS0032

Was Euro 350 May 2015, when the Euro was at a good exchange rate sure it worked out about £250, bit different now.
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: pross on August 24, 2016, 08:47:38 AM
Quote from: O.C. on August 23, 2016, 08:49:05 PM
this afternoon I spoke with my mate at my dealer, he has spoken with kawasaki technical and they will not confirm that the kawasaki accessory bars will fit the later model bikes.

I'm a bit pissed off because I would definitely get some for mine.

It's a big and potentially expensive gamble to buy a set if they wont fit -- if any of you want to take the chance its up to you  :smiley: 

ABTW let me know if they do fit and I'll get myself a set


Same response as I had IMHO they look better and as far as I am aware don't interfere with the fairing and servicing
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: snowy on August 24, 2016, 10:15:37 AM
Quote from: pross on August 24, 2016, 08:47:38 AM

Same response as I had IMHO they look better and as far as I am aware don't interfere with the fairing and servicing
:agree:
Apart from being a pain to fill oil as close to the filler there's no other negative I've found yet!
After the weekend worth ever penny, minimal damage

(http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w473/snowr0/bar_zpswawhmsq1.jpg) (http://s1077.photobucket.com/user/snowr0/media/bar_zpswawhmsq1.jpg.html)
(http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w473/snowr0/mirror_zpsckjmp4s9.jpg) (http://s1077.photobucket.com/user/snowr0/media/mirror_zpsckjmp4s9.jpg.html)
(http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w473/snowr0/rampg_zpswzmykypg.jpg) (http://s1077.photobucket.com/user/snowr0/media/rampg_zpswzmykypg.jpg.html)
(http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w473/snowr0/can_zpsebhsy3vr.jpg) (http://s1077.photobucket.com/user/snowr0/media/can_zpsebhsy3vr.jpg.html)

Worst bits gonna be making the mirror cover good, but shopws Kawasaki bar and R&G bobbin do what they say on the tin!  :yes:

Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: O.C. on August 24, 2016, 09:09:16 PM
 :clap: 
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: Vixer on August 24, 2016, 09:39:16 PM
I'll be asking about these when I pick up my recently crashed bike from Autorama.

They were on my Christmas holiday to do list too, grrrr
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: O.C. on August 25, 2016, 07:59:27 AM
Quote from: Vixer on August 24, 2016, 09:39:16 PM
I'll be asking about these when I pick up my recently crashed bike from Autorama.

They were on my Christmas holiday to do list too, grrrr

Brian  at Autorama will advise you, I was talking to him about them on Tuesday this week 
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: virginiajim on August 28, 2016, 01:41:49 PM
Quote from: O.C. on August 23, 2016, 08:49:05 PM
this afternoon I spoke with my mate at my dealer, he has spoken with kawasaki technical and they will not confirm that the kawasaki accessory bars will fit the later model bikes.

I'm a bit pissed off because I would definitely get some for mine.

It's a big and potentially expensive gamble to buy a set if they wont fit -- if any of you want to take the chance its up to you  :smiley: 

ABTW let me know if they do fit and I'll get myself a set

Possibly someone here has a set fitted and could be bribed (beer and food) to let you see if they would fit.
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: Charlie747 on August 28, 2016, 01:51:21 PM
Quote from: virginiajim on August 28, 2016, 01:41:49 PM
Possibly someone here has a set fitted and could be bribed (beer and food) to let you see if they would fit.

So that's Steak & Kidney pudding with pints of Guinness then Jim  :whistling:
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: Busa1400 on September 11, 2016, 06:08:47 PM
I'd definately have a set of those  :ohplease: :ohplease: :ohplease: :ohplease:
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: pross on September 11, 2016, 08:14:44 PM
I went into Cradley Kawasaki yesterday and asked about the crash bars and service requirements to get to certain areas.
They now charge £66  :censored: per hour labour and if the guards need removing they will charge additional Hours  minimum 1 Hour to start my 3750 mile service is due so for this minimal service no need for removal so just be warned with certain crash frames I didn't have the problem with the Kawasaki type snowy has on  :yes:

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/anthonyprosser/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/924EA6F4-6132-4E33-9270-22E360CF0743_zpst3bxujvg.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/anthonyprosser/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/924EA6F4-6132-4E33-9270-22E360CF0743_zpst3bxujvg.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Original GTR14 engine bars......tested!
Post by: O.C. on September 11, 2016, 08:16:52 PM
good points  :yes: